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Tue 16/04/02 at 19:19
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I have always wanted to know what is the best internet scripting or programming language.The list of competitors are:
--Aplication Development:
-ASP
-PHP
-Java

--Scripting:
-JScript
-VBScript

Just some simple facts:
-ASP - very powerful but to use it you usually need your own server
-PHP - Started out as 1 mans "little" project
-Java - you see it through an applet
-JScript - Works in both IE and NS and can do quite a lot
-VBScript - Only works in IE but like the says it is quite like VB
Fri 19/04/02 at 08:41
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If you want your own web server with asp and php then get a decent windows (NOT XP Home) and install PWS(personal web server) or IIS(internet infomation services). ASP comes as standard but to get php go to www.php.net . Once you have the web site, everyone needs to know about it. I have a program called DUCMoniter which ftps my new IP to a site somewhere whenever i connect to the net. (See it at www.cawleyd.freeserve.co.uk - u need a password). Then you can have no-banner,free(apart from internet connection charges) website (but only when ur online!).

Notes:
If you would like a copy of DUCMoniter then E-mail me : [email protected] and ask for it (it is written in C++).
Wed 17/04/02 at 12:13
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Cjh, from memory the reason Sun are allowed to get upset about the lack of an included JVM in WinXP is that Microsoft has been declared a monopoly by the US Courts, and as such anti-competitive behaviour such as this isn't allowed.

Microsoft have a huge amount of power over the direction the industry takes. By not including a JVM in XP they're forcing all XP users to (at least) wait 20 minutes (assuming a dialup connection) for the autodownload to finish when they visit a client-side Java-enabled site. Lots of people won't want to do that.

Now that .NET's a direct competitor to Java server-side, Microsoft are doing everything they can to stamp it out client-side as well. Yawn. And there's nowt we can do about it. The courtcase will be a joke because Microsoft can afford the best lawyers in America. Welcome to a monopoly.
Wed 17/04/02 at 11:14
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I though there was some licensing thing with ASP (maybe it was that ISS Server thing I was thinking of) ... sorry, I appear to have been wrong.
Wed 17/04/02 at 11:13
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> I hear MS have stopped supporting Java in thier browser now!
> Apparently Sun has taken them to court over this. Naughty MS.
> Naughty.


Have they??? Wondered why some sites with applets wouldn't load them.

But MS don't have to support it if they don't want to... right?? Why are they suing??
Wed 17/04/02 at 01:02
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cjh wrote:
> ASP - Don't know much about, but apparently hosts have to pay to use
> it.

Stop. Right. There. Suckah. Nice people at home can design and build ASP sites if they have Win 95/98/2k/Me/XP (only XP Pro though!) as long as the have MS Personal Web Server installed, which either came installed as part of the system, or should be an option to install from your Windows CD *You do have a Windows CD don't you?* To host an ASP site, a host only needs to be running Windows NT or 2000 servers, simple. ASP functionality is built in to the servers, so hosts pay for it by just buying the MS server software. ASP can be run on *nix platforms, but this is through a Third Party product, ChilliSoft I think, which will charge you throught the nose for it, but then, I can run PERL for free on an Windows server, so that about evens things up. Also see VBScript below. I recommend ASP101.com to find out about all things ASP. If you have a copy of Dreamweaver Ultradev there are lots of handy tools to help you get started connecting to databases and stuff like that in ASP.

> Java - It's powerfull and lets user interaction more friendly and
> quicker if you have the know-how.

I hear MS have stopped supporting Java in thier browser now! Apparently Sun has taken them to court over this. Naughty MS. Naughty.

> JavaScript - Usable on most browsers, so go with this.

Yes. But make sure the JavaScript is cross-browser, some scripts do not work in both IE and NS, so always check.

> VBScript - only use if something can be done in it but not using
> JavaScript. Sure, you'll lose Netscapge viewers, but why shut out IE
> when they have so many users, if VB can do it and you know it, add it
> :o).

I program my ASP in VBScript. (Confused, you will be!) VBScript is usually compiled and executed server-side, you can make it client-side, like JavaScript is, but not really needed when you have JavaScript.
Tue 16/04/02 at 23:54
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ASP - Don't know much about, but apparently hosts have to pay to use it.
PHP - Free for a host to serve, so usually means they let you use it for free
Java - It's powerfull and lets user interaction more friendly and quicker if you have the know-how.

JavaScript - Usable on most browsers, so go with this.
VBScript - only use if something can be done in it but not using JavaScript. Sure, you'll lose Netscapge viewers, but why shut out IE when they have so many users, if VB can do it and you know it, add it :o).
Tue 16/04/02 at 19:19
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I have always wanted to know what is the best internet scripting or programming language.The list of competitors are:
--Aplication Development:
-ASP
-PHP
-Java

--Scripting:
-JScript
-VBScript

Just some simple facts:
-ASP - very powerful but to use it you usually need your own server
-PHP - Started out as 1 mans "little" project
-Java - you see it through an applet
-JScript - Works in both IE and NS and can do quite a lot
-VBScript - Only works in IE but like the says it is quite like VB

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