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Tue 16/04/02 at 12:28
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History has been littered with great competition, however, in any great competition there always has to be a winner and a loser, it’s a fact.
But what if there are three opposing sides in a competition? Is there room for only one, two or perhaps all three of them to survive?
I am of course talking about the console war (ZZZzzzz you may think), but also about other things that weren’t embraced by the buying public despite lots of hype, or where competition forced out a competitor.

It has happened frequently in the world of cinema, where two similar films arrive almost simultaneously, one succeeds, and the other doesn’t. Armageddon & Deep Impact are prime examples, as both were released in 1998, both were about giant meteors threatening Earth, and both were filled with cheesy clichés. Armageddon had almost twice the budget and loads of big Hollywood names in it and it proved to be the more popular of the two (though seeing it for the first time a few weeks back on ch5 I thought it was a load of tripe).
Dante’s Peak & Volcano are similar films, both released in 1997 and both about big volcanoes threatening America (don’t they have all the luck when it comes to disaster flicks!). So again, there was only room for one film, and although neither of them were that great, Dante’s Peak grossed more worldwide.

There was also the Squarial supported by BSkyB versus Sky for control of satellite television. Nowadays, you’d be hard pushed to see a squarial around unless you were travelling back in time.
And who can forget the Betamax & VHS debate? Those who chose Betamax over VHS thought they were on to a winner, alas, Betamax flopped. (But I bet they’re worth quite a bit now.)

In the world of pop music there was Jason, Kylie and Stefan Dennis. Although there did prove to be room for Kylie & Jason, there was only space for 2 Aussie ex-soap stars to be top of the pops, so Stefan had to fail, which was a shame because I liked his song, ‘Don’t it make you feel good’.
Ricky from Eastenders aka Sid Owen had a fledgling pop career, we had high hopes for finding the new Frank Sinatra, but disappointment was around the corner, and his music career sunk quicker than the Titanic.

Minidiscs flopped compared to CDs and Laserdiscs have also flopped compared to VHS. DVDs are one of the main technological things that have caught on, now they have pretty much confined VHS to the pages of history.

The less I talk about Tab Clear the better. Clear Coke was meant to be a revelation, but it didn’t last, as competition was too strong in the fizzy drinks industry, and the fizz went flat as people weren’t taken in by flashy hype for a naff product.

So as you can see, in the past, hype or high competition can be bad for certain products, which leads me on to the bulk of the discussion: Video games.

Pretty soon, the games market will once again have three big super consoles battling it out for supremacy. The market may be more crowded and busy than sweaty geeks packed into a Star Trek convention, but can the market sustain multiple consoles?
Judging by recent history the answer could be a big fat no, as the relative failure of the Dreamcast proves.
I had a DC, and enjoyed some great gaming experiences like MSR, Shenmue, Jet Set Radio, Powerstone, Soul Calibur etc. It did lack some great game genres like a good football sim (90 Minutes was supposedly an abomination). The DC was great while it lasted but didn’t go the distance compared to the PSOne and N64. Before the DC there was the Jaguar, 3DO and Virtual Boy, Mega CD, and many more disappointments.

Xbox, PS2 & Gamecube, can all three survive? At this stage the Xbox looks most shaky judging by early sales figures not being as high as expected, but you can’t see Microsoft giving up too easily although if it flops too badly, though Mr. Gates would not want to plough too much money into a dead horse, there will come a time when they will cut their loses. Things catch on and become part of the public consciousness, the Playstation brand has done this, can the Xbox or GC?
The Japanese market is a tough nut to crack, and luckily for Nintendo & Sony being Japanese companies, they cracked it years ago, but Microsoft are struggling to do so, though their main market is the States, it would be seen as a slight failure if the Xbox brand name doesn’t catch on in the Far East.
The Xbox has the most to prove in Japan being Microsoft’s first foray into the competitive video game console business, and it must live up to expectations to justify the hype and marketing that has accompanied it.

Along with the games, the price strategy is a key factor, thankfully, the Gamecube will not put too higher dent in the nation’s wallets, as for once we are treated to a reasonably priced console.
Xbox, though expensive, is a powerful machine with some great looking titles, but for how long Microsoft can maintain the high price tag remains to be seen, and in light of the imminent arrival of the cheaper Gamecube which is affordable to the masses and the PS2 always at a competitive price, Microsoft must be aggressive in their price strategy, or else risk losing a lot of business.

Hopefully, Nintendo’s little purple box of gaming wonder will find its niche in the market for every type of gamer, from hardcore to kids. The low price tag, tradition of great gameplay and great looking games like Mario Sunshine/Tennis/Golf, Metroid, Wave Race, Monkey Ball, Rogue Leader, Smash Bros Melee, etc will help, and it’s not too far away now so the wait shouldn’t matter to true gaming connoisseurs. Nintendo and Microsoft seem to be advertising their consoles pretty well, something, which has greatly helped the PSOne and PS2, achieve their great success.

I already own a PS2, will maybe get an Xbox when there’s a price reduction and a few more decent games available, and I await my Gamecube on May 3rd with great anticipation having pre-ordered it many months ago. I’m mainly a Nintendo fan, so I’m hoping that the GC has great success and staying power.
Hopefully, each console will have many years of great games playing to look forward too and all three can survive for a long time.
With any luck, there can be room for three consoles in the market this time despite what history decrees, although the disappointment of the Dreamcast is still fresh in gamers minds, many people are excited at the prospects of all three consoles, as each system has some great looking “killer apps” to look forward to. All three consoles have great third party support from companies like Sega, Capcom, Konami, Namco, Square etc.
They each bring massive franchises to particular consoles like Resident Evil on GC, MGS2 on PS2 & possibly Xbox, ISS on PS2 & GC. So each system has plenty of decent third party support.
Sega are going to make me poor, as they're bringing out great games for each one like JSR Future, Crazy Taxi 3, PSO, Monkey Ball, Rez and loads more.

It’s time to blow the cobwebs off of your bankbook and splash the cash, because in the end, along with the game developers, it is the consumer that has the power to make a console a hit or a miss. The symbiotic relationship between us & them can work and we can change the future of gaming by embracing all three consoles and prove that ‘Two’s Company, But Three’s a Crowd’ is not always the case.

Thanks for reading :)
Sat 20/04/02 at 01:31
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You obviously didn't see 'The Witches of Eastwick' then. Jack Nocholson and his b*****s. What more could a man ask for?
Wed 17/04/02 at 11:04
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Thanks for the reply, i was beginning to think i had halitosis or something :)
Wed 17/04/02 at 10:58
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I do think that all three can survive because they will all be good in different ways and both offer a good set of games, the PS2 will no doubt have the most games, the gamecube i expect will have a fair few but they will mainly be of high quality if it has ninendo written on the case, and the xbox will show off its graphics because of its power and has and will have some great titles.
The only way either one could fail, and lets face it the ps2 can't fail now so its down to the xbox and gamecube, is if the public just don't buy them, although the xbox hasn't had the best of starts in the uk i rekon things will pick up soon enough, the gamecube however i think will do well, its had loads of pre-orders and there are loads of nintys in the uk that will definately buy one, the price is great and although it lacks the DVD features of the other two it does what it says in that its a games machine, no fancy dvd features, which will be a big selling point i rekon, coupled with some great games.
I think the PS2 will come out on top easily, it will just be the cube vs the xbox really, but i hope all three survive.
Wed 17/04/02 at 10:50
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Totoro wrote:
> Thanks for reading :)

Hhhmmm...i wonder if anyone did??


.........tumbleweed glides past..........

Guess not >:(
Tue 16/04/02 at 12:28
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History has been littered with great competition, however, in any great competition there always has to be a winner and a loser, it’s a fact.
But what if there are three opposing sides in a competition? Is there room for only one, two or perhaps all three of them to survive?
I am of course talking about the console war (ZZZzzzz you may think), but also about other things that weren’t embraced by the buying public despite lots of hype, or where competition forced out a competitor.

It has happened frequently in the world of cinema, where two similar films arrive almost simultaneously, one succeeds, and the other doesn’t. Armageddon & Deep Impact are prime examples, as both were released in 1998, both were about giant meteors threatening Earth, and both were filled with cheesy clichés. Armageddon had almost twice the budget and loads of big Hollywood names in it and it proved to be the more popular of the two (though seeing it for the first time a few weeks back on ch5 I thought it was a load of tripe).
Dante’s Peak & Volcano are similar films, both released in 1997 and both about big volcanoes threatening America (don’t they have all the luck when it comes to disaster flicks!). So again, there was only room for one film, and although neither of them were that great, Dante’s Peak grossed more worldwide.

There was also the Squarial supported by BSkyB versus Sky for control of satellite television. Nowadays, you’d be hard pushed to see a squarial around unless you were travelling back in time.
And who can forget the Betamax & VHS debate? Those who chose Betamax over VHS thought they were on to a winner, alas, Betamax flopped. (But I bet they’re worth quite a bit now.)

In the world of pop music there was Jason, Kylie and Stefan Dennis. Although there did prove to be room for Kylie & Jason, there was only space for 2 Aussie ex-soap stars to be top of the pops, so Stefan had to fail, which was a shame because I liked his song, ‘Don’t it make you feel good’.
Ricky from Eastenders aka Sid Owen had a fledgling pop career, we had high hopes for finding the new Frank Sinatra, but disappointment was around the corner, and his music career sunk quicker than the Titanic.

Minidiscs flopped compared to CDs and Laserdiscs have also flopped compared to VHS. DVDs are one of the main technological things that have caught on, now they have pretty much confined VHS to the pages of history.

The less I talk about Tab Clear the better. Clear Coke was meant to be a revelation, but it didn’t last, as competition was too strong in the fizzy drinks industry, and the fizz went flat as people weren’t taken in by flashy hype for a naff product.

So as you can see, in the past, hype or high competition can be bad for certain products, which leads me on to the bulk of the discussion: Video games.

Pretty soon, the games market will once again have three big super consoles battling it out for supremacy. The market may be more crowded and busy than sweaty geeks packed into a Star Trek convention, but can the market sustain multiple consoles?
Judging by recent history the answer could be a big fat no, as the relative failure of the Dreamcast proves.
I had a DC, and enjoyed some great gaming experiences like MSR, Shenmue, Jet Set Radio, Powerstone, Soul Calibur etc. It did lack some great game genres like a good football sim (90 Minutes was supposedly an abomination). The DC was great while it lasted but didn’t go the distance compared to the PSOne and N64. Before the DC there was the Jaguar, 3DO and Virtual Boy, Mega CD, and many more disappointments.

Xbox, PS2 & Gamecube, can all three survive? At this stage the Xbox looks most shaky judging by early sales figures not being as high as expected, but you can’t see Microsoft giving up too easily although if it flops too badly, though Mr. Gates would not want to plough too much money into a dead horse, there will come a time when they will cut their loses. Things catch on and become part of the public consciousness, the Playstation brand has done this, can the Xbox or GC?
The Japanese market is a tough nut to crack, and luckily for Nintendo & Sony being Japanese companies, they cracked it years ago, but Microsoft are struggling to do so, though their main market is the States, it would be seen as a slight failure if the Xbox brand name doesn’t catch on in the Far East.
The Xbox has the most to prove in Japan being Microsoft’s first foray into the competitive video game console business, and it must live up to expectations to justify the hype and marketing that has accompanied it.

Along with the games, the price strategy is a key factor, thankfully, the Gamecube will not put too higher dent in the nation’s wallets, as for once we are treated to a reasonably priced console.
Xbox, though expensive, is a powerful machine with some great looking titles, but for how long Microsoft can maintain the high price tag remains to be seen, and in light of the imminent arrival of the cheaper Gamecube which is affordable to the masses and the PS2 always at a competitive price, Microsoft must be aggressive in their price strategy, or else risk losing a lot of business.

Hopefully, Nintendo’s little purple box of gaming wonder will find its niche in the market for every type of gamer, from hardcore to kids. The low price tag, tradition of great gameplay and great looking games like Mario Sunshine/Tennis/Golf, Metroid, Wave Race, Monkey Ball, Rogue Leader, Smash Bros Melee, etc will help, and it’s not too far away now so the wait shouldn’t matter to true gaming connoisseurs. Nintendo and Microsoft seem to be advertising their consoles pretty well, something, which has greatly helped the PSOne and PS2, achieve their great success.

I already own a PS2, will maybe get an Xbox when there’s a price reduction and a few more decent games available, and I await my Gamecube on May 3rd with great anticipation having pre-ordered it many months ago. I’m mainly a Nintendo fan, so I’m hoping that the GC has great success and staying power.
Hopefully, each console will have many years of great games playing to look forward too and all three can survive for a long time.
With any luck, there can be room for three consoles in the market this time despite what history decrees, although the disappointment of the Dreamcast is still fresh in gamers minds, many people are excited at the prospects of all three consoles, as each system has some great looking “killer apps” to look forward to. All three consoles have great third party support from companies like Sega, Capcom, Konami, Namco, Square etc.
They each bring massive franchises to particular consoles like Resident Evil on GC, MGS2 on PS2 & possibly Xbox, ISS on PS2 & GC. So each system has plenty of decent third party support.
Sega are going to make me poor, as they're bringing out great games for each one like JSR Future, Crazy Taxi 3, PSO, Monkey Ball, Rez and loads more.

It’s time to blow the cobwebs off of your bankbook and splash the cash, because in the end, along with the game developers, it is the consumer that has the power to make a console a hit or a miss. The symbiotic relationship between us & them can work and we can change the future of gaming by embracing all three consoles and prove that ‘Two’s Company, But Three’s a Crowd’ is not always the case.

Thanks for reading :)

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