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Ant wrote:
> I am the Tarrant wrote:
> no, two negatives make a positive. it works.
>
> Only in maths terms. And to be honest, maths is crap.
No, it works in English language aswell. The term "double negative" is widely regarded as a language term now, rather than a mathematical one.
But I don't not see your point.
> I am the Tarrant wrote:
> no, two negatives make a positive. it works.
>
> Only in maths terms. And to be honest, maths is crap.
No, it works in English language aswell. The term "double negative" is widely regarded as a language term now, rather than a mathematical one.
But I don't not see your point.
I am the Tarrant wrote:
> no, two negatives make a positive. it works.
Only in maths terms. And to be honest, maths is crap.
> no, two negatives make a positive. it works.
Only in maths terms. And to be honest, maths is crap.
Sadat-X wrote:
> I think that instead of capital punishment, prisoners should be put
> into hard labour camps. That way they would help to pay for their
> upkeep in the prison and actually do something useful.
That is a brilliant idea, that way society still benifits from some otherwise useless person. Your a genius Sadat.
I think some other guy in Germany tried that but I can't remember his name.
> I think that instead of capital punishment, prisoners should be put
> into hard labour camps. That way they would help to pay for their
> upkeep in the prison and actually do something useful.
That is a brilliant idea, that way society still benifits from some otherwise useless person. Your a genius Sadat.
I think some other guy in Germany tried that but I can't remember his name.
Theoreticly, a wrong and a right cancel each other out. By, using your theory, they just make a wrong...
right = something positive
wrong = something negative
yes?
maths and english tell us that a double negative (or two wrongs) make a positive (or a right).
thats my philosophy anyway. so if i were to kill someone for stealing an apple, i would be in the wrong - until i killed someone else for something unrelated (such as for fun or to pass time before i catch a bus), then everything would be balanced again and i would be an everage citizen.
wrong = something negative
yes?
maths and english tell us that a double negative (or two wrongs) make a positive (or a right).
thats my philosophy anyway. so if i were to kill someone for stealing an apple, i would be in the wrong - until i killed someone else for something unrelated (such as for fun or to pass time before i catch a bus), then everything would be balanced again and i would be an everage citizen.
I think that instead of capital punishment, prisoners should be put into hard labour camps. That way they would help to pay for their upkeep in the prison and actually do something useful.
The worse the crime, the harder the labour and the longer the sentence. One good idea by the Australian criminal Mark Brandon Read ("Chopper") was that the worse criminals should be put into an Army unit. Any escape attempts or misbehaviour would result in floggings or the ilk. The idea has been used in the past and the units have been feared as they have nothing to lose, no-one to go home to and this results in formidable,if slightly crazed, soldiers. The incentive to join said unit would be some form of parole or early release (if applicable). I read this in his autobiography (a good read - its called "Chopper"), but he goes into more detail and makes a far better argument.
I don't believe that there is any point in killing off criminals as it benefits nobody. Put them to work, make them useful.
The worse the crime, the harder the labour and the longer the sentence. One good idea by the Australian criminal Mark Brandon Read ("Chopper") was that the worse criminals should be put into an Army unit. Any escape attempts or misbehaviour would result in floggings or the ilk. The idea has been used in the past and the units have been feared as they have nothing to lose, no-one to go home to and this results in formidable,if slightly crazed, soldiers. The incentive to join said unit would be some form of parole or early release (if applicable). I read this in his autobiography (a good read - its called "Chopper"), but he goes into more detail and makes a far better argument.
I don't believe that there is any point in killing off criminals as it benefits nobody. Put them to work, make them useful.
Completely agree with RBS. In my view, it's not up to us who dies and who doesn't.
People change. Okay, as always I'm referring to my Christian views but stick with me. I've heard about many people who have been in prison for murder or whatever, and while there they have found God. Now, if you make exceptions for the idiots in Ireland or just some strange Christians you find, most Christians are not going to kill people, right? Most won't even commit minor offences. I'm not saying we're perfect because we're far from it, but I won't ever consider committing crime because it goes against what my God wants. It's a sin. Although I don't think I'd consider it anyway, but still.
What if Timothy McVeigh had found God? What if Timothy McVeigh had realised in his heart what he'd done was wrong, and really did want to mend his ways? Yes it would be hard to tell, but we should at least give him a chance.
People change. Okay, as always I'm referring to my Christian views but stick with me. I've heard about many people who have been in prison for murder or whatever, and while there they have found God. Now, if you make exceptions for the idiots in Ireland or just some strange Christians you find, most Christians are not going to kill people, right? Most won't even commit minor offences. I'm not saying we're perfect because we're far from it, but I won't ever consider committing crime because it goes against what my God wants. It's a sin. Although I don't think I'd consider it anyway, but still.
What if Timothy McVeigh had found God? What if Timothy McVeigh had realised in his heart what he'd done was wrong, and really did want to mend his ways? Yes it would be hard to tell, but we should at least give him a chance.
RastaBillySkank wrote:
> Tim McVeigh, was executed for the murder of 180 people. A huge number
> of moral and ethical issues are raised in that action.
>
> Should he have been killed?
>
> Well I personally think that, no, he should not have been killed. Let
> me explain my point of view. I happen to believe that no one; NO ONE
> deserves to die. No matter what they’ve done and how they have acted
> it is just not right to take away a persons life like that. Decreeing
> who lives or dies is like playing God. Playing God is wrong. And we
> are effectively doing this.
I agree with this. I wonder how a judge feels after deciding to put a man to death. I would feel really bad.
> Tim McVeigh, was executed for the murder of 180 people. A huge number
> of moral and ethical issues are raised in that action.
>
> Should he have been killed?
>
> Well I personally think that, no, he should not have been killed. Let
> me explain my point of view. I happen to believe that no one; NO ONE
> deserves to die. No matter what they’ve done and how they have acted
> it is just not right to take away a persons life like that. Decreeing
> who lives or dies is like playing God. Playing God is wrong. And we
> are effectively doing this.
I agree with this. I wonder how a judge feels after deciding to put a man to death. I would feel really bad.
It is wrong to exicute someone. DNA and fingerpinting is not fool proof as we don't know much about it yet so hundreds of innocent people must have been exicuted over the years!
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