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Sat 13/04/02 at 19:19
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Ali G Mk I: unknown and with a cult following, funny.
Ali G Mk II: very well known and extremely publicised, not funny.

This is the question I put to you today, in light of his recent film, panned by kids and critics alike, can Sacha Baron-Cohen recover the character, or should he just start something new?

I should give you what I consider to be helpful background material before you make up your mind.

I have been a big follower of 'Ali G' since the early appearances on the 11 O'clock show and the video release of those interviews was one of the funniest collages I've seen in a long time. From there, he progressed to his own show, still quite funny, liked the Mohammed Al Fayed interview and the Borat stuff, Beckham interview hilarious ("Has your little boy started to put whole sentences together yet?...And what about Brooklyn?"), etc, but this film was the most bloated pile of self-indulgent tripe I've seen for as long as I can remember.


Since the start of his TV series, his pal from Cambridge, Mayer or someone-or-other has been the principle reason behind Sacha Baron Cohen's decision to move from the political upstaging thing to developing the character. However, it seems to me that Ali G has now become that which he used to so subtly insult, without getting the irony like he used to. The humour he used to employ was always poignant, subtle, and devastatingly effective. But now it's just not funny.

Organisations like the Anti-Defamation League protested about the film, and many people spoke out about how insulting the film was to black people. I didn't have a problem so much with that essence of the film, what pained me in watching it, was the simple fact that it wasn't funny.

One joke stands out, the reference to 'Martin Luther Vandross'; there might have been a couple of more had it not been for the fact that I'd already seen the 'best' ones in trailers and in commercials.

This disappoints me greatly as the boy Cohen had such bright hopes and his life has been one of unfailing success. What consoles me is the fact that he seems a reactive and smart kid, not to mention very very quick-witted and humorous, so I fail to see how he will continue with this new direction. My guess is that he will gradually retire the character, already it's been a while since the premiere, and use his newly-acquired leverage to start a different venture.

I'd like to know what people think about the man SBC and his alter-ego Ali G, he is now big news and this matters. Can Ali G continue in its present form?
Sat 13/04/02 at 20:54
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I never knocked the character Borat, just the 'main attraction' on the show on which he was aired.
Sat 13/04/02 at 20:37
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Posts: 15,579
Borat is still funny.
Sat 13/04/02 at 19:32
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Posts: 23,216
In direct answer to your title:

When he started to make money.

Unfortunatly, if he starts over with a new character, he's done for. He should have come up with a lot of them, instead of riding on the success of one for so long.
Sat 13/04/02 at 19:19
Posts: 0
Ali G Mk I: unknown and with a cult following, funny.
Ali G Mk II: very well known and extremely publicised, not funny.

This is the question I put to you today, in light of his recent film, panned by kids and critics alike, can Sacha Baron-Cohen recover the character, or should he just start something new?

I should give you what I consider to be helpful background material before you make up your mind.

I have been a big follower of 'Ali G' since the early appearances on the 11 O'clock show and the video release of those interviews was one of the funniest collages I've seen in a long time. From there, he progressed to his own show, still quite funny, liked the Mohammed Al Fayed interview and the Borat stuff, Beckham interview hilarious ("Has your little boy started to put whole sentences together yet?...And what about Brooklyn?"), etc, but this film was the most bloated pile of self-indulgent tripe I've seen for as long as I can remember.


Since the start of his TV series, his pal from Cambridge, Mayer or someone-or-other has been the principle reason behind Sacha Baron Cohen's decision to move from the political upstaging thing to developing the character. However, it seems to me that Ali G has now become that which he used to so subtly insult, without getting the irony like he used to. The humour he used to employ was always poignant, subtle, and devastatingly effective. But now it's just not funny.

Organisations like the Anti-Defamation League protested about the film, and many people spoke out about how insulting the film was to black people. I didn't have a problem so much with that essence of the film, what pained me in watching it, was the simple fact that it wasn't funny.

One joke stands out, the reference to 'Martin Luther Vandross'; there might have been a couple of more had it not been for the fact that I'd already seen the 'best' ones in trailers and in commercials.

This disappoints me greatly as the boy Cohen had such bright hopes and his life has been one of unfailing success. What consoles me is the fact that he seems a reactive and smart kid, not to mention very very quick-witted and humorous, so I fail to see how he will continue with this new direction. My guess is that he will gradually retire the character, already it's been a while since the premiere, and use his newly-acquired leverage to start a different venture.

I'd like to know what people think about the man SBC and his alter-ego Ali G, he is now big news and this matters. Can Ali G continue in its present form?

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