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Fri 13/10/00 at 16:12
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Pining for the Fjords!!! What sort of talk is that, and why did it fall flat on its back the moment I got it home??

What has happened to comedy these days?? We need another series like Monty Python with sureal comedy that is actually funny. We have plenty of Sureal comedy programmes or programmes that are trying to do something different but for some reason they just cant capture the same spirit. They just are not funny!!!

Its tough to put your finger on what makes Monty Python so funny I suppose it is a combination of things. The fact that each member was very funny in their own right, they thought in different ways and the ideas that they bounced of each other catapulted them into comedy history.

Sorry to go on but every time I hear their sketches I laugh. I know all the words but still they are funny. Hearing an innocent man told to "shut your face you snotty nose heap of parrot droppings, your type really make me puke, you vacuos malodorous pervert" to which he replies "I just came hear to have an argument" never seems to stop being funny.

Anyway, just a thought better not get started on this or I might start quoting the cheese sketch. 'I dont care how bloody runny it is, hand it over forthwith', 'oh,.... the cats eaten it'

Too late.
Wed 25/04/01 at 23:56
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> I always found Vic Reeves a bit too 'surreal' for my liking, I can
> relate to some of the quips Bob Mortimer comes out with from time to
> time, but on the whole it's too over my head to
> appreciated.

WhOld skool surreal huh? ... This was the sort of responce Monty Python used to get quite a lot... :)


Closest thing we have to the Monty Python crew today
> is League of Gentlemen, but like Tarrant says, they are not
> consistent enough.

Equally... you'd have to admit Monty Python themselves were VERY far from being consistant... a LOT of their sketches fell very obviously flat on their faces...
Tue 24/04/01 at 18:28
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I think that monty Python was and is very good, and still worth watching now.

The thing is when looking for a replacement we must remember that it was a one off. Comedy changes, and something trying to be like monty python would be derivative, and we want fresh comedy.

However, there is nothing wrong with shows with the same surreal sense of humour. There are some comedian's who have a surreal edge who might be replacement such as harry hill, eddie izzard.

I think sketch comedy is at a low ebb at the moment. There are very few good sketch shows about (I can't think of any). Sitcoms seems to be the main type of comedy at the moment. Perhaps sketches will take off again soon, or perhaps not. We shall see.


Wed 18/04/01 at 09:16
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Watched The League of Gentlemen live last night at The Theatre Royal, Drury Lane.

Fantastic fun, nice to see the characters 15ft away on stage.

They refuse to be on BBC1 because they would have to censor their material, and they are currently making a 3rd series which will be the last one.

If you can, go catch them live before it ends.
Wed 18/04/01 at 01:57
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I always found Vic Reeves a bit too 'surreal' for my liking, I can relate to some of the quips Bob Mortimer comes out with from time to time, but on the whole it's too over my head to appreciated.

Closest thing we have to the Monty Python crew today is League of Gentlemen, but like Tarrant says, they are not consistent enough.

The BBC should sign them up full time, one show a week (if they have the skill to do that many) for a 5 year period. Maybe if the 'Gentlemen' had that security behind them they could concentrate better on their work and produce more great episodes.

At present, it only has a cult following, so they should stick it on around 8pm on a Thursday night if they can get away with the watershed, but on BBC1 not BBC2 so that a wider audience could appreciate it.

Then they might get the full recognition for their great work that they truly deserve, imho. :-)
Mon 16/04/01 at 21:56
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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How about... Vic Reeves Big Night Out from 1990
Fri 30/03/01 at 22:20
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League of gentlemen comes closest but its not as funny (papa lazarou aside) and no were near as consistent.
Tue 06/03/01 at 19:26
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Monty Python is a great program... and I have no doubt will be remeber for years still as a comedy milestone...

But it was in no way perfect, there were at least as many scetches that died.... in an extreamly dead parrot fasion...

Equally (as many Monty Python members have been mentioning of late) the series is 20 years old...

Comedy has moved on from then...

New surreal comedy, especially British surreal comedy will of course be influensed by Monty Python...

But shouldnt ever try to copy Monty Python...

Wed 20/12/00 at 04:10
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Monty Python was a once in a lifetime thing which both the Social and Moral standards of England were desperate for. There are so many factors which made Pythonism come to pass that it is very doubtful that such conditions and chances will occur again. And even though you (and I) are python fans it does not mean that there would be such a massive upswell in support if such a thing were to happen.

The current climate is one that supports self expression and I know for a fact that my eleven year old son looks at Python looks back at me then says "Well he just knocked him in the canal with a fish dad". He is obviously puzzled why this is so funny to the "old man" and probably ranks Pythonism alongside "Dads old slippers".

We probably still find the sketches funny because we remember them when they first came out in a climate where it was a bit 'naughty' or 'risque' to watch a program which used the word BA$#!RD in it so many times.

This does not change the fact that the famous growing roses of the 'Circus' attaches me to the screen for the length of a show, or that I would gladly watch Python rather than my American Football injections but it does mean that you will never see it's like again.
Sat 14/10/00 at 18:47
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Yes we do need something like Monty Python but for some reason i don't think we will see anything like it. Why? well its quite simply. Its all been done before. If somebody comes out with some new ideas they have to be new "new" otherwise they get compared to the programme that had the same idea first. I have been recently enjoying the re-runs of Monthy Python on the Paramount channel but they do put them on at stupid times i.e. 3:00am!!! The films they have done are classics. The search for the Holy Grail was hilarious and those French knights in the castle (one of them played by John Cleese) were class. The Life of Brian was incredibly funny. When the blind guy said he could see then feel into the hole was genius! I know it sounds simply but Monthy Python could make walking funny....which they did. Hurry for Monthy Python who's shows are still funny.
"We are the Knights who say Ni!"

Darkreaper
Fri 13/10/00 at 16:12
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Pining for the Fjords!!! What sort of talk is that, and why did it fall flat on its back the moment I got it home??

What has happened to comedy these days?? We need another series like Monty Python with sureal comedy that is actually funny. We have plenty of Sureal comedy programmes or programmes that are trying to do something different but for some reason they just cant capture the same spirit. They just are not funny!!!

Its tough to put your finger on what makes Monty Python so funny I suppose it is a combination of things. The fact that each member was very funny in their own right, they thought in different ways and the ideas that they bounced of each other catapulted them into comedy history.

Sorry to go on but every time I hear their sketches I laugh. I know all the words but still they are funny. Hearing an innocent man told to "shut your face you snotty nose heap of parrot droppings, your type really make me puke, you vacuos malodorous pervert" to which he replies "I just came hear to have an argument" never seems to stop being funny.

Anyway, just a thought better not get started on this or I might start quoting the cheese sketch. 'I dont care how bloody runny it is, hand it over forthwith', 'oh,.... the cats eaten it'

Too late.

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