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Sat 12/10/02 at 19:08
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Hello to all you guys at the Special Reserve forum, Please can you read this and comment on it as you wish.

Violence in entertainment has come to be one of the most popular excuses for random acts of violence.

The problem here is that people will instinctively blame Anything or anyone but themselves. It's how humans interact. Like the parents of those kid who shot all those people at an American High School ( Columbine....I think) a few years ago. Uh...no, my kid wasn't crazy... he just played Doom a lot ( Doom 3 looks wicked ; hope to buy it)... yeah, I was a good parent.I was there for him a few hours a week.... what?, like parenting is a fulltime job?" morons. I'm not saying that parents should go to jail for this, but someone needs to slap them around the head for them blaming video games. It's not like there wasn't violence in the world before violent games and Movies came around. Television didn't exist before there was the Holocaust, Homicides, Murders etc. around the world. Fake violence a bad influence? you say that limiting fake violence will stop real violence? Heres some violence for you; how about I whip some sense into you?

Don't blame Electronic arts, ID Studios and Rockstar games. American brought violent tendencies from the world and gave them a unique twist. For Example American movies such as Die Hard, Terminator and Lethal Weapon do very well in Japan, America and Europe but in Japan with a population of 170 million people there will be 800 murders but in New york with a population of 8 million ( I think ) there will be 2500 murders,
There are two possibilitys :-
Either people from New york hate eachother or America has a higher crime rate than Japan. Japan with the same violent movies as America has a lower Crime rate. Yeah, fake violence really turns people into violent killers. It just seems like people blame the first thing that comes into mind without really putting much thought into what it really is.

Obviously anyone who uses entertainment as a scapegoat is ignorant to the facts. Games and movies are fake.they may look real, but when a 'person' is 'killed' in a game or movie they don't really die. Games have animation and movies have blanks, blood packs and makeup. Anyone that is of sound mental health can see the difference between Fake and Reality; In reality when you shoot someone they die or get seriously injured, In a game they will get killed as part of a squad, group or Army of the Enemy, they will be eliminated from the level or Enemy AI.

I also don't understand how killing armed guards in a FPS like Agent Under fire and Perfect Dark, or Aliens in Turok Evolution And Halo translates into Sniping innocent people or shooting people at your high school. The Guards/Aliens in FPS are trying to kill you, so you try to kill them first..... at a petrol station or a high school unarmed people are running frantically from you at a bid to escape. There is no Similarity here. The only game franchise that lets you kill unarmed people without serious consequences is the Grand Theft Auto series. Theres been some hype amongst anti - game individuals about its most recent installment, Grand theft Auto 3 in which you can do just about any illegal action you can think of. Murder, Grand Theft Auto, Hit and Run, Bank jobs, gang warfare the list goes on.

I could understand parents being a bit uncomfortable with their kids playing this game. After all it has a Over 18 adults only rating and is not intended for little Ben. Some parents seem to be under the impression that they are not in control of what their kids play. This is the exact kind of thing that started this. Some parents have convinced themselves tht they don't have anything to do with what their kids get into. It's almost like they are afraid to confront their kids. This is not the 'Birds and the Bees' people, this is something that should be reletively simple to do, yet it isn't always done. Kids without guidance are more likely to start shooting people than kids whose parents play an active role in their life.

I hope I have gotten my point across.
Thanks
Mon 14/10/02 at 18:13
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"waiting 4 Matrix 3"
Posts: 377
Please can people read this
Sun 13/10/02 at 15:25
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Boss_Pac_Man wrote:
> it seems to me that most of the people 'influenced' by games to kill,
> have acces to guns from their parents, and the rest is hyped up by the
> press. like that kid who killed his friend for a blastoise pokemon
> card. most likly the kids were playing pokemon cards, then they
> decided to go look at daddy's guns, and acedentally shot the other in
> the head.
>
> (they are not

Did that really happen. It's like that kid who Powerbombed(move on wrestling I think) his Sister after he watched WWF(E)Smackdown years ago, and another Irish Whipped his Friend Into a wall, It's a pity that they both died over Wrestling moves
Sat 12/10/02 at 21:47
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Posts: 1,842
it seems to me that most of the people 'influenced' by games to kill, have acces to guns from their parents, and the rest is hyped up by the press. like that kid who killed his friend for a blastoise pokemon card. most likly the kids were playing pokemon cards, then they decided to go look at daddy's guns, and acedentally shot the other in the head.

(they are not
Sat 12/10/02 at 20:45
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"waiting 4 Matrix 3"
Posts: 377
The next movie I want to see is Lord of the Rings The two Towers
Sat 12/10/02 at 19:29
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Well yeah it will be good! I love James Bond Films
Sat 12/10/02 at 19:27
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Thanks for Commenting Parr, Do you hope to see Die Another Day?
Sat 12/10/02 at 19:16
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I know what you mean. Games get the blame for lots of things but as you say that is what the age rating is for. To stop "little BEN" from getting warped. But then again this new 12A film certificate will mean that lots of "little BEN"s will be going to see "XXX" or "DIE ANOTHER DAY" and they will get the blame..... I HOPE
Sat 12/10/02 at 19:08
Regular
"waiting 4 Matrix 3"
Posts: 377
Hello to all you guys at the Special Reserve forum, Please can you read this and comment on it as you wish.

Violence in entertainment has come to be one of the most popular excuses for random acts of violence.

The problem here is that people will instinctively blame Anything or anyone but themselves. It's how humans interact. Like the parents of those kid who shot all those people at an American High School ( Columbine....I think) a few years ago. Uh...no, my kid wasn't crazy... he just played Doom a lot ( Doom 3 looks wicked ; hope to buy it)... yeah, I was a good parent.I was there for him a few hours a week.... what?, like parenting is a fulltime job?" morons. I'm not saying that parents should go to jail for this, but someone needs to slap them around the head for them blaming video games. It's not like there wasn't violence in the world before violent games and Movies came around. Television didn't exist before there was the Holocaust, Homicides, Murders etc. around the world. Fake violence a bad influence? you say that limiting fake violence will stop real violence? Heres some violence for you; how about I whip some sense into you?

Don't blame Electronic arts, ID Studios and Rockstar games. American brought violent tendencies from the world and gave them a unique twist. For Example American movies such as Die Hard, Terminator and Lethal Weapon do very well in Japan, America and Europe but in Japan with a population of 170 million people there will be 800 murders but in New york with a population of 8 million ( I think ) there will be 2500 murders,
There are two possibilitys :-
Either people from New york hate eachother or America has a higher crime rate than Japan. Japan with the same violent movies as America has a lower Crime rate. Yeah, fake violence really turns people into violent killers. It just seems like people blame the first thing that comes into mind without really putting much thought into what it really is.

Obviously anyone who uses entertainment as a scapegoat is ignorant to the facts. Games and movies are fake.they may look real, but when a 'person' is 'killed' in a game or movie they don't really die. Games have animation and movies have blanks, blood packs and makeup. Anyone that is of sound mental health can see the difference between Fake and Reality; In reality when you shoot someone they die or get seriously injured, In a game they will get killed as part of a squad, group or Army of the Enemy, they will be eliminated from the level or Enemy AI.

I also don't understand how killing armed guards in a FPS like Agent Under fire and Perfect Dark, or Aliens in Turok Evolution And Halo translates into Sniping innocent people or shooting people at your high school. The Guards/Aliens in FPS are trying to kill you, so you try to kill them first..... at a petrol station or a high school unarmed people are running frantically from you at a bid to escape. There is no Similarity here. The only game franchise that lets you kill unarmed people without serious consequences is the Grand Theft Auto series. Theres been some hype amongst anti - game individuals about its most recent installment, Grand theft Auto 3 in which you can do just about any illegal action you can think of. Murder, Grand Theft Auto, Hit and Run, Bank jobs, gang warfare the list goes on.

I could understand parents being a bit uncomfortable with their kids playing this game. After all it has a Over 18 adults only rating and is not intended for little Ben. Some parents seem to be under the impression that they are not in control of what their kids play. This is the exact kind of thing that started this. Some parents have convinced themselves tht they don't have anything to do with what their kids get into. It's almost like they are afraid to confront their kids. This is not the 'Birds and the Bees' people, this is something that should be reletively simple to do, yet it isn't always done. Kids without guidance are more likely to start shooting people than kids whose parents play an active role in their life.

I hope I have gotten my point across.
Thanks

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