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"Does anyone else get the feeling that Osama bin Laden could be fictitious?"

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Sun 31/03/02 at 02:34
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Well, I'm just being facetious of course, or am I? The way I see it, OBL could just be an invention of the CIA, it wouldn't exactly be a new thing either. We all know they killed Kennedy and the moon landing was photograpically proven to be impossible (though only receiving much attention in the alternative media); is it that inconceivable? I don't think people realise just how 'big' the CIA are, they have the capacity to do things we cannot even imagine.

Now you're all probably dismissing me as a conspiracy theory nut, well I don't see it that way. If something is true, then it's not a conspiracy theory, it's fact. So if the CIA killed Kennedy, then it's not really a theory anymore. Go on, dismiss me if you like. I don't care.

To go back to the OBL thing, does no-one else think he's too sterotyped a figure of himself to be real? I mean, come on, the beard, the 'death to the infidels' stuff, the seriously dodgy footage of him after September 11, the demonising of him in the Western press, the legitimation of US foreign policy, the need to consolidate Dubya's position in office, the hiding in the hills stuff, the new nuclear weapons arms race, and so on. It seems to me too convenient. Perhaps.

As for September 11, now I'm not going to try to pretend I know why on earth it would happen other than for the reason that's been reported, but is it entirely inconceivable that it could have been an accident, or carried out by other agencies at work, or a different terrorist cell?

Alright, I'm going to stop there, because I can sense a backlash (I hope). Clearly, my views are 100% unsubstantiated, so I should point out now that I know that I'm wrong until proven correct.

P.S. If this should get taken off the server, I won't be surprised.
P.P.S. I am not a nut. I know to need to say this I probably am, but I am outwardly quite normal. Believe me.
Mon 01/04/02 at 00:55
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Heh, I remember Homer being sent to that Island...quality episode. The replacement they send for Homer...LOL
Sun 31/03/02 at 23:08
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You should watch what you say S_E. If you don't then sooner or later you will wake up on some tropical island in the Pacific. You'll ask someone why you are there and they'll tell you that 'You're here because you know too much'.

On the other hand, that could be a good thing...
Sun 31/03/02 at 20:36
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The purpose of this topic was not to seriously question the possibility that OBL is fictitious, but to merely consider the fact that we should be more sceptical about what we are told to believe is fact. So yes, OBL in all likelihood does exist, but as anyone has seen the film Wag the Dog will tell you, we should be wary of the mainstream media.

About the moon landing, I am told by a very esteemed professor of photographic studies at Edinburgh University that the landing propogated shadows that are quite impossible for a surface at that angle from the sun. We are told not just to believe in the moon landing, but to believe that the possibility of it not happening is inconceivable, and maybe this neatly demonstrates the point I am trying- not in a 'village idiot' way- to illustrate.

About the JFK assassination, I have taken the time to read extensively on this matter for myself, and in the words of the second Warren Commission, the one that wasn't bullied so much, 'there probably was some form of conspiracy'. If you want any more info, I will happily provide it, and give you the books/websites to visit. Even conservatives will entertain the prospect that there was some form of cover-up, and a little more reading goes a lot further than that.

Remember, to dismiss conspiracies out of hand without qualification is merely the perpetuation of the myth.
Sun 31/03/02 at 20:31
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An accident? How did you get that?
So some guys on a plane 'accidently' took control of the air craft and changed its course. Ok thats makes sense. And then it happens again and then once more. But yeah your right, it was just proberly an accident. I guess the people who did it could just say 'oops my finger sliped'.

Im all for freedom of speech and everything, but I think its quite hard to say it could be an accident.
Sun 31/03/02 at 18:22
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This guy should consider a career change. Professional villiage idiot would be appropriate I feel.
Three Points:

1) The moon landing did happen. For proof why, see my upcoming "Conspiracy Theory" post in the Life, The Universe and Everything forum.

2)Chances are that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald. I mean, the CIA would have had just as much reason to kill him as anyone else. He was a really crap president and was on the verge of causing global warfare of the nuclear variety. And whether Oswald was working for the CIA or was a free agent is irrelevant, because the outcome was exactly the same.

3)So, Bin Laden's a fake is he. B******s! He exists. He was assisted by the US government (among others) to overthrow Russian rule not that long ago, and has been wanted for various crimes. He exists. However, whether he arranged the attack on the Trade Centre is debatable. I mean, would anybody be stupid enough to own up to that. Possibly, but it does seem a bit convenient that the US government had him on their most wanted list before the incident, and this is an oppurtunity for them to clear afghanistan of terrorists, provoke other not-very-nice countries such as Libya and Iraq, hence increasing the popularity of Mr. George 'Dubya' Bush.
Unlikely though.
Sun 31/03/02 at 11:00
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get him its iraqistan man in disguise
Sun 31/03/02 at 02:34
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Well, I'm just being facetious of course, or am I? The way I see it, OBL could just be an invention of the CIA, it wouldn't exactly be a new thing either. We all know they killed Kennedy and the moon landing was photograpically proven to be impossible (though only receiving much attention in the alternative media); is it that inconceivable? I don't think people realise just how 'big' the CIA are, they have the capacity to do things we cannot even imagine.

Now you're all probably dismissing me as a conspiracy theory nut, well I don't see it that way. If something is true, then it's not a conspiracy theory, it's fact. So if the CIA killed Kennedy, then it's not really a theory anymore. Go on, dismiss me if you like. I don't care.

To go back to the OBL thing, does no-one else think he's too sterotyped a figure of himself to be real? I mean, come on, the beard, the 'death to the infidels' stuff, the seriously dodgy footage of him after September 11, the demonising of him in the Western press, the legitimation of US foreign policy, the need to consolidate Dubya's position in office, the hiding in the hills stuff, the new nuclear weapons arms race, and so on. It seems to me too convenient. Perhaps.

As for September 11, now I'm not going to try to pretend I know why on earth it would happen other than for the reason that's been reported, but is it entirely inconceivable that it could have been an accident, or carried out by other agencies at work, or a different terrorist cell?

Alright, I'm going to stop there, because I can sense a backlash (I hope). Clearly, my views are 100% unsubstantiated, so I should point out now that I know that I'm wrong until proven correct.

P.S. If this should get taken off the server, I won't be surprised.
P.P.S. I am not a nut. I know to need to say this I probably am, but I am outwardly quite normal. Believe me.

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