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I hate it when I see possibly the best game ever and I go to by it but then it hits me: I NEED MOUNEY!!!! I don`t think that its nice to make people pay that mutch for games and I know that some of you think the same way!
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That's what I do - Inspire people... Actually, thats wrong, what i do is sit at home on my P.C all day... Ho Hum
I haven't bought a game since about April anyway.
So pretty much every week is Don't Buy A Game Week for me.
Maybe I'll make sure I DO buy one in that week, just to annoy people...
So pretty much every week is Don't Buy A Game Week for me.
Maybe I'll make sure I DO buy one in that week, just to annoy people...
Thanks man, I got your point before, just wanted to add my opinion on it. If you hadn't posted what you did, I doubt I would have bothered, so thanks for the insperation :o)
That is exactly the point I was trying to make cjh, but nobody listened to me. I totally agree with what you are saying.
Blank CD-R discs are about £1 each. Anyone know how the price of blank DVD-R compares?
You really need to think twice about this whole 'price' thing.
I know, prices are high, but you do have to consider what your getting or your money.
- Do you want the game??
- Did you or are you enjoying the game you bought?
- Did it last you a long time?
Games are always going to cost more than a DVD Movie would. Games take many, many months to create, all involving key stages, and smart people to perform them. Smart people don't come cheap these days, so you have to take into account their pay. Then, the equipment they use to produce these games. The time taken to test and to fix problems in a game ... then test them again.
You've got the development costs there, these are generally pretty high. Easiy in the £500,000+ (for a good game) Some higher than others, depending if the game was produced by a large firm of 1000's of employees or a small company with maybe 60.
Then, you've got to have them put onto the console format, a CD for example. Now, this is probably the cheapest part of any game release, but the biggest mistake people always make is that its not only the production of the CD that cost money. I always hear about how a CD only costs 30p to make, 5p to put the data on and 7p to print the ink onto it just over 40p a disk. Then, the cover, the manual and the box, maybe £1 in total. Working out to an average of £1.50 per game. That's all many people believe a game costs to develop and distribute.
Next, distributing the games to the sellers (shops) which again, probably doesn't cost all that much when you think about it, a few rental trucks to drive over the UK to deliver the games to their destination isn't exactly cheap, but then again it doesn't break the bank.
Also, advertising. You've got to let people know your game is out there, and deserves your attention and money. You've got TV ads, Radio ads, Magazine Ads, you've got to send a load of copies out to games magazines and Web Sites to allow them to play and review the game, allowing them to publish their reviews online or in the magazine.
There are probably some other tasks thats I don't know about that occur. But it comes down to this, a game costs a hell of a lot between the idea of the game and its sale to you.
All you have to decide is "is that particular game worth the money to you". If it isn't, then either rent it or don't buy it, plain and simple.
Having a strike against not buying games until the price comes down will do no good for anybody. Developers will be let go, games will loose quality in an aim to cut costs and sell the games cheap, and finally companies who develop games may eventually say 'screw you', and stop making games altogether.
Their aim is to make a profit, and not just a little profit, a good profit, and if that isn't happened there is no reason for them to carry on.
DVD's on the other hand, are just copies of an already taped movie which (like someone already stated) has been in the movies and make a profit. All that is done is the original movie is copied onto DVD, yes, some extras are added, but the don't come close to a fully developed game. The argument about DVD's only costing £2 or whatever to make is more valid than the same argument about game.
Well, this is my theory on it anyway, or should I say my opinion. If you disagree with it, then please, tell me where and why. Would be interesting to see other peoples point of views.
I know, prices are high, but you do have to consider what your getting or your money.
- Do you want the game??
- Did you or are you enjoying the game you bought?
- Did it last you a long time?
Games are always going to cost more than a DVD Movie would. Games take many, many months to create, all involving key stages, and smart people to perform them. Smart people don't come cheap these days, so you have to take into account their pay. Then, the equipment they use to produce these games. The time taken to test and to fix problems in a game ... then test them again.
You've got the development costs there, these are generally pretty high. Easiy in the £500,000+ (for a good game) Some higher than others, depending if the game was produced by a large firm of 1000's of employees or a small company with maybe 60.
Then, you've got to have them put onto the console format, a CD for example. Now, this is probably the cheapest part of any game release, but the biggest mistake people always make is that its not only the production of the CD that cost money. I always hear about how a CD only costs 30p to make, 5p to put the data on and 7p to print the ink onto it just over 40p a disk. Then, the cover, the manual and the box, maybe £1 in total. Working out to an average of £1.50 per game. That's all many people believe a game costs to develop and distribute.
Next, distributing the games to the sellers (shops) which again, probably doesn't cost all that much when you think about it, a few rental trucks to drive over the UK to deliver the games to their destination isn't exactly cheap, but then again it doesn't break the bank.
Also, advertising. You've got to let people know your game is out there, and deserves your attention and money. You've got TV ads, Radio ads, Magazine Ads, you've got to send a load of copies out to games magazines and Web Sites to allow them to play and review the game, allowing them to publish their reviews online or in the magazine.
There are probably some other tasks thats I don't know about that occur. But it comes down to this, a game costs a hell of a lot between the idea of the game and its sale to you.
All you have to decide is "is that particular game worth the money to you". If it isn't, then either rent it or don't buy it, plain and simple.
Having a strike against not buying games until the price comes down will do no good for anybody. Developers will be let go, games will loose quality in an aim to cut costs and sell the games cheap, and finally companies who develop games may eventually say 'screw you', and stop making games altogether.
Their aim is to make a profit, and not just a little profit, a good profit, and if that isn't happened there is no reason for them to carry on.
DVD's on the other hand, are just copies of an already taped movie which (like someone already stated) has been in the movies and make a profit. All that is done is the original movie is copied onto DVD, yes, some extras are added, but the don't come close to a fully developed game. The argument about DVD's only costing £2 or whatever to make is more valid than the same argument about game.
Well, this is my theory on it anyway, or should I say my opinion. If you disagree with it, then please, tell me where and why. Would be interesting to see other peoples point of views.
LL Cool TT wrote:
> Really, I want to pay less for my games. After all, the format is the
> same as a DVD movie, so we should pay £20 max.
Yes but DVD's have already earned loads of money in the cinema's, where as games have only got sales to rely on.
> In the past, I would have said that games offer one major thing over
> movies and music: interactivity. However, with DVDs having more
> options than ever before, this argument goes out the window.
Why? Do you have to get the movie stars through the movie? No. All you have to do is watch. Yes DVD's have extras like lttle games and out takes, bu that is generally it.
> That's
> why I think that the whole country should support Don't Buy a Game
> Week. It'll only take a week of no sales to bring the companies on
> their knees.
What, for one week? If it goes on foever many small companies will go out of buissness, losing you some good games. i am going to make a special effort to try and buy a game on 'Don't buy a Game Week' just to show me being against it.
> Really, I want to pay less for my games. After all, the format is the
> same as a DVD movie, so we should pay £20 max.
Yes but DVD's have already earned loads of money in the cinema's, where as games have only got sales to rely on.
> In the past, I would have said that games offer one major thing over
> movies and music: interactivity. However, with DVDs having more
> options than ever before, this argument goes out the window.
Why? Do you have to get the movie stars through the movie? No. All you have to do is watch. Yes DVD's have extras like lttle games and out takes, bu that is generally it.
> That's
> why I think that the whole country should support Don't Buy a Game
> Week. It'll only take a week of no sales to bring the companies on
> their knees.
What, for one week? If it goes on foever many small companies will go out of buissness, losing you some good games. i am going to make a special effort to try and buy a game on 'Don't buy a Game Week' just to show me being against it.
Really, I want to pay less for my games. After all, the format is the same as a DVD movie, so we should pay £20 max.
In the past, I would have said that games offer one major thing over movies and music: interactivity. However, with DVDs having more options than ever before, this argument goes out the window. That's why I think that the whole country should support Don't Buy a Game Week. It'll only take a week of no sales to bring the companies on their knees.
In the past, I would have said that games offer one major thing over movies and music: interactivity. However, with DVDs having more options than ever before, this argument goes out the window. That's why I think that the whole country should support Don't Buy a Game Week. It'll only take a week of no sales to bring the companies on their knees.
Dave RJR wrote:
> No doubt games are too much. And on the run up to Christmas, there
> will be loads of games launched within a matter of a few weeks. Too
> many in a short space of time. Back in July/Aug, there were very few
> new games.
Well why not spread your buying u over the entire year - instead o buying all the games you want at chrstmas, only buy a few, then buy the rest in the summer where the markt place is generally dull. The games will probably be cheaper then too. Okay?
> No doubt games are too much. And on the run up to Christmas, there
> will be loads of games launched within a matter of a few weeks. Too
> many in a short space of time. Back in July/Aug, there were very few
> new games.
Well why not spread your buying u over the entire year - instead o buying all the games you want at chrstmas, only buy a few, then buy the rest in the summer where the markt place is generally dull. The games will probably be cheaper then too. Okay?
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