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Fri 25/10/02 at 10:41
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Any of you PS2 gamers got games titles that are hardly ever heard of but still play because they're so great? I'm not talking about the blockbusters like TimeSplitters 2, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty and all the other obvious ones, I'm on about games that I've got in my collection that for some reason or other got totally ignored or slammed by the games press but which I find are still quite good.

Examples:

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance

Do you REALLY want to see what your PS2 can do in the graphics department? Get this game and all will be revealed. If you thought Devil May Cry looked stunning, this is going to blow you away. The dungeon graphics are the best you'll see on any current PS2 title. Plus it's a good RPG (not brilliant, just good).

Britney's Dance Beat

Oh the stigma associated with owning such a title, but who cares when it's such a great game to play? (It really is, although only 5 tracks does get a bit repetitive, maybe they'll correct that in the sequel if that ever appears).

Dark Cloud

GREAT game, it's got nearly everything you could ever want from the adventure genre; levelling up, finding items, buying equipment, plus it's got a very unique storyline in that you have to find parts of hidden villages, towns and cities and rebuild them, filling them with inhabitants and other things (like roads, lakes trees and so on) as you go. Very absorbing action/adventure.

Drakan The Ancients' Gates

Possibly the most underrated action/adventure ever. Tricky to get into at first but once you get to grips with the fighting system the world is your oyster, literally, it's a HUGE game, massive maps, lots of variety and challenge to. And talking of challenge...

Frequency

Punch the buttons in time to the music, this is Britney's Dance Beat but without Britney (possibly a good thing...). But it's VERY hard at the later levels, and it keeps me coming back for more and more as I try to beat it. Plus it's got some very good tracks on there, so it never gets repetitive as you can change tracks at will, even mix your own.

That's just 5 out of the 10 or so 'unheard of' games in my collection that just don't seem to have got the credit they truly deserved, therefore people don't tend to discuss them much.

And there's literally HUNDREDS of PS2 titles out there that most of us will never have heard of, simply because they haven't been given press coverage but got released straight to the distributers without a review (generally publishers of really bad titles do this specifically to AVOID getting a review prior to release, but there are still some gems out there regardless).

So have you got any games in your collection that people seemed to have missed? Tell me what they are, why you like them, and then next time I see a title I don't recognise I'll be armed with a bit of extra inside information on how good the game is likely to be.
Sat 26/10/02 at 13:24
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"A man with a stick"
Posts: 5,883
FantasyMeister wrote:
> cipro wrote:
> Dropship
>
> I only hear good things about this one except for the fact that you
> need 10 fingers (on each hand) to get used the the control mechanism.
> I suppose after having played a few flight sims on the PC that
> Dropship would be considered easy for a flight sim veteran or a
> professional air force jet-fighter pilot with 3000 flying hours under
> his belt.

I'm not really a PC flight sim veteran though, I've got about two flight sims for my computer and haven't played them in a few years. While the controls aren't the most easiest to get to grips on, after a short practice they are eventually easy to use.

You only need to know the basics to play the game, and I only ever need to use a few of my fingers for the control set up. As flight sims go this perhaps the most easiest sim I've played on, it does take a short while to learn the controls, but when you do they'll just come as second nature.
Fri 25/10/02 at 18:02
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"twothousandandtits"
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Well I usually find demos give a good insight into a game, judging by the games I've subsequently bought after playing the demo.

Britney was too damn easy to enjoy - I didn't miss a single beat on my first time on the hardest difficulty available. Definitely a corporate cash-in.

And why have they had an extra six months to tweak the game? Sure in some cases, but mostly when we get demos the game is already out overseas, and most developers aren't going to bother making any improvements on the US and Japanese versions.
Fri 25/10/02 at 17:44
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Demos are usually naff compared to what finally arrives though. For one thing the developers have had at least another 6 months to tweak the gameplay/graphics/sound etc. (One exception was Driver for the PSX, the game loading times weren't really much of an improvement over the 'go and make a cup of tea and feed the cat, maybe take the dog for a walk as well' loading times on the demo).

As for Britney, yeah, it is easy, but still a good game.
Fri 25/10/02 at 17:29
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"twothousandandtits"
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Well I've played demos of all the games you listed and wasn't really impressed by any of them. Especially Britney's Dance Beat, which was way too easy on the hardest setting.

Although I do agree with you that games often get overlooked even though they are very good. But sometimes games sell a lot despite not having much coverage in magazines or poor review scores.
Fri 25/10/02 at 17:15
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cipro wrote:
> Dropship

I only hear good things about this one except for the fact that you need 10 fingers (on each hand) to get used the the control mechanism. I suppose after having played a few flight sims on the PC that Dropship would be considered easy for a flight sim veteran or a professional air force jet-fighter pilot with 3000 flying hours under his belt.

However, following your favourable review I'll consider it.
Fri 25/10/02 at 14:35
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"A man with a stick"
Posts: 5,883
Dropship

I like combat flight sims, but they're just too complicated to get into on my PC, too much controls to master. This game however, though has the same amount of realism as a PC flight sim, it has a much easier control system to get used to.

I like this game allot, it blends the realism of a top flight sim with an arcady type shoot em up. All of the missions are nicely varied, for example, on one mission you have to destroy all of the air and ground defences around an enemy base which hold POWs. Then after you've done that you land you're dropship and head into the base in an APC, destroying any enemy vehicles which get in you're way. You then rescue the POWs and escape the base just as it's being blow up by an incoming airstrike.

That's what I like about this game, it's variaty. It's just flying around shooting down airplanes all the time, you get to do other stuff as well such as drive tanks and man Machine Guns on the dropships.

The graphics can be a little plain sometimes, but that's the only thing I can find wrong with the game, it's just a pity it sank without a trace, I think the game has created an exciting new genre which should be exploited more by PS2 developers.
Fri 25/10/02 at 10:41
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"Copyright: FM Inc."
Posts: 10,338
Any of you PS2 gamers got games titles that are hardly ever heard of but still play because they're so great? I'm not talking about the blockbusters like TimeSplitters 2, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty and all the other obvious ones, I'm on about games that I've got in my collection that for some reason or other got totally ignored or slammed by the games press but which I find are still quite good.

Examples:

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance

Do you REALLY want to see what your PS2 can do in the graphics department? Get this game and all will be revealed. If you thought Devil May Cry looked stunning, this is going to blow you away. The dungeon graphics are the best you'll see on any current PS2 title. Plus it's a good RPG (not brilliant, just good).

Britney's Dance Beat

Oh the stigma associated with owning such a title, but who cares when it's such a great game to play? (It really is, although only 5 tracks does get a bit repetitive, maybe they'll correct that in the sequel if that ever appears).

Dark Cloud

GREAT game, it's got nearly everything you could ever want from the adventure genre; levelling up, finding items, buying equipment, plus it's got a very unique storyline in that you have to find parts of hidden villages, towns and cities and rebuild them, filling them with inhabitants and other things (like roads, lakes trees and so on) as you go. Very absorbing action/adventure.

Drakan The Ancients' Gates

Possibly the most underrated action/adventure ever. Tricky to get into at first but once you get to grips with the fighting system the world is your oyster, literally, it's a HUGE game, massive maps, lots of variety and challenge to. And talking of challenge...

Frequency

Punch the buttons in time to the music, this is Britney's Dance Beat but without Britney (possibly a good thing...). But it's VERY hard at the later levels, and it keeps me coming back for more and more as I try to beat it. Plus it's got some very good tracks on there, so it never gets repetitive as you can change tracks at will, even mix your own.

That's just 5 out of the 10 or so 'unheard of' games in my collection that just don't seem to have got the credit they truly deserved, therefore people don't tend to discuss them much.

And there's literally HUNDREDS of PS2 titles out there that most of us will never have heard of, simply because they haven't been given press coverage but got released straight to the distributers without a review (generally publishers of really bad titles do this specifically to AVOID getting a review prior to release, but there are still some gems out there regardless).

So have you got any games in your collection that people seemed to have missed? Tell me what they are, why you like them, and then next time I see a title I don't recognise I'll be armed with a bit of extra inside information on how good the game is likely to be.

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