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"MGS1 beats MGS2"

MGS2 is a great game but i reckon that MGS1 is a better game. The graphics on 2 are better but the story line is not as good and MGS1's graphics were good for the PS1. MGS2 is just a souped up version of the first one. I had more enjoyment out of 1 than i did 2.

Yeah but MSG2 lacks the touches that made the 1st one stand out.

MGS you had the torture sequence (repeated in 2), you had the bit where you needed to take the controller out and put it into port 2 so that the boss couldn't predict your movements, you had to search for the CODEC code, only to discover it was on the box as a screenshot.

Just little touches that made MGS stand-out.
Whilst MGS2 has excellent graphics, it's a standard sneak-em-up with nothing (apart from MGS) to make it stand out.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good game but it just seems to have left out all the clever/inventive bits from the 1st game.
And loads of bits are exactly the same with 1 or 2 minor changes.

Chopper battle becomes Harrier battle
Sniper Wolf showdown becomes Vamp showdown

The only part that seemed to approach the originality of the 1st one was the swimming-through-flooded-levels.
Because it was something we haven't seen before in that game.
MGS broke out of what a game could offer, but sadly it feels to me that MGS2 is just more of the same.
It doesn't have that factor of "Cool!",I just thought "Yeah ok, so tranq that gaurd and sneak past. Repeat. Oh good,another cut-scene and CODEC moment."

It's not a bad game, just unoriginal and more of the same.

MGS1 had more variety in locations. Plus it had that mad section where you were running up endless flights of stairs with guards coming at you from above and below.

MGS2 just had the two levels, although the tanker had the corridors, rooms and holds, and the plant just had struts and bridges, but I felt it wasn't really enough. Arsenal Gear and New York just seemed 'tacked on' at the end for variety's sake.

MGS2's only mad sections were the ninja guards in Arsenal Gear where you went co-op mode with Snake, but on the other hand if you wanted madness you just had to initiate a clearance sequence on any of the levels for a bit of fun.

MGS1 always had the upper hand because it was 100% originality all the way. MGS2 is more of the same, but done better. What it lacked in original features it made up for in some great gameplay.

If I had to pick just one of the two I'd go for MGS2, because there's a lot more to do. (Those dogtags are going to keep me busy for months).

Hmm, ok the end of MGS 2 did seem to go into the Twighlight Zone but it was still a far better story line than MGS1. How can you say MGS 1 had the better when in 2 there were scenes such as the otacon and Emma one, and the brilliant characterisation of the likes of Vamp and Solidus. These were some of the best villans that i had ever witnessed in a game before. And the way that the story unfolder was brilliant too.

As for the game play...that speaks for itself.

MGS1's story was far better. The gameplay in MGS2 is obviously better since the graphics make it more playable and there are loads of new moves. But MGS1 would be a better game if it had the same graphics as MGS2 and the same moves. Obviously, it would have to be changed slightly as well though to make use of the new moves.

Not one cut scene in MGS2 comes close to Sniper Wolf's Death scene!

I prefer MGS2 to MGS1!!

MGS2 is a great game but i reckon that MGS1 is a better game. The graphics on 2 are better but the story line is not as good and MGS1's graphics were good for the PS1. MGS2 is just a souped up version of the first one. I had more enjoyment out of 1 than i did 2.