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Sat 16/11/02 at 08:21
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Hindley died on Friday afternoon aged 60 after suffering respiratory failure.

Police are guarding her body amid fears of attacks by members of the public.

There are also concerns photographers might attempt to snatch pictures and sell them to the newspapers.

Winnie Johnson, the mother of Keith Bennett, one of the youngsters murdered by Hindley and her lover Ian Brady, said: "I just hope she goes to hell."

She added: "I have no sympathy for her, even in death."

Hindley was readmitted to West Suffolk hospital at Bury St Edmunds on Tuesday.

She had spent several days there earlier this month following a suspected heart attack.

A chain smoker, she had experienced ill-health for much of her 36 years behind bars, suffering from angina, suspected strokes and osteoporosis.

Hindley and Brady, now 64, were jailed for life at Chester Assizes in 1966.

They had both murdered 10-year-old Lesley Ann Downey and Edward Evans, 17.

Brady was also convicted of murdering 12-year-old John Kilbride while Hindley was found to have been an accessory to that killing.

In 1987 the pair confessed to killing 12-year-old Keith Bennett and Pauline Reade, 17.

During their investigations, police found a harrowing 16-minute audio tape of Lesley Ann Downey being stripped and abused.

The body of Mrs Johnson's son Keith has never been found.

Hindley had clung to the hope that she might one day win her freedom but successive home secretaries were determined she should die behind bars.

In a statement, her solicitors said: ""Myra was deeply aware of the terrible crimes she had committed and of the suffering caused to those who died and to their relatives.

"She was acutely aware that she would not be forgiven by many."

Hindley is understood to have ordered that none of her organs should be offered for transplant and detailed that she wanted to be cremated and her ashes scattered at a secret location.

There will be a coroner's inquest into her death as is routine for prisoners who die in custody.

Arrangements have been made for a funeral service to be held in Cambridge

Brady is being held in a prison hospital and has also been suffering from ill health.

Ah well. I don't expect it'll be long before Brady bites the bullet, especially now that they've taken away his computer...
Sat 16/11/02 at 15:57
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torticollis wrote:
> typhon wrote:
> may i just ask why a post about this topic is in the forum "the
> future of gaming" and would it not be better suited to a news
> forums somewhere
>
> because more people look at this forum so its likely to get more
> feedback. Don't try to sound smart noob.

No, he is right really


ty flux as i was not trying to be smart at all i just thought that all these posts would be about games and was wondering if there was a post specifically for those type of threads. so no need for comments torticollis as i was not trying to be smart anyway
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:55
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Rosalind wrote:
> Of course the parents of thoses children have every right to hate her
> if they want to. If it was me I would undoubtedly hate her to. I
> don't agree that we have no right to hate her either. Just because
> what she did din't affect us doesn't mean that we can't have whatever
> feelings we choose about it. What we have no right to do is judge the
> parents for hating her, or really anyone else, which isn't what I'm
> trying to do here.

Agreed. I personally can't hate either of them. I have no real understanding of how it must feel. I wasn't around during the case, and to be honest, I feel no emotion, good or bad, towards Hindlay, or indeed, Brady. So in a sense, I'm like you, for not hating her. But equally, I'm unlike you in the fact that you have ability to forgive her, and my personality nor emotions can stretch to that length, form what I know about the case (not from the Sun, before Mr Happy toodles in) and from what people who were around then have told me.

> It is a shame that the parents of the children will hate her forever.
> If they could forgive her and move on then their quality of life would
> be massively improved, and I think that they really deserve that.

I have never really expanded my thoughts to this...I would agree in that forgiving her would be like a funeral of thoughts, where the funeral depicts them mourning, but all mourning must end, and the funeral is also the end. And indeed, if they forgave, they could not forget about it, but they could put it aside, and begin a new lease of life, after 39 years of pain and mourning. And indeed, they do deserve that.

> Some victims of similar things have been able to forgive and move on,
> but it would take a stronger person than me I'm sure.

That was my original point, earlier in this (and other) posts. I am not strong enough, or wouldn't be strong enough, to do what you suggest. But I'm sure that you (and others like you0 would have the strength to.

> Its odd how my opinon on these issues differs from almost everyone
> elses

If everyone had the same views, what would be the point of a debate? A discussion? Think different, and anyway, why follow the hate mob when your mind obviously works different?
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:46
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Fuzzy wrote:
> Rosalind wrote:
>
> I can understand your forgiveness for her. But the main concern is if
> the parents of the children forgave or can forgive her. And it is not
> us who have the right to hate her, why, she didn't do anything to us,
> unless you count making the headlines. But I don't understand how it
> could ever be possible, in lie or truth, that the parents could ever
> forgive her. If I was a parent, and had lost a child to her and Brady,
> no matter what influenced her, I would be full of spite and ager
> towards both of them.

Of course the parents of thoses children have every right to hate her if they want to. If it was me I would undoubtedly hate her to. I don't agree that we have no right to hate her either. Just because what she did din't affect us doesn't mean that we can't have whatever feelings we choose about it. What we have no right to do is judge the parents for hating her, or really anyone else, which isn't what I'm trying to do here.

It is a shame that the parents of the children will hate her forever. If they could forgive her and move on then their quality of life would be massively improved, and I think that they really deserve that.

Some victims of similar things have been able to forgive and move on, but it would take a stronger person than me I'm sure.

Its odd how my opinon on these issues differs from almost everyone elses
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:41
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Rosalind wrote:
> Of course what she did was a dispicable act and the act I do loath,
> but it takes a lot for me to hate a person. Who am I to judge Myra
> Hindly, I don't know what motivated her, how much she was under the
> direction of Brady. If she is truly sorry in her heart.

I agree with you, and disagree, on different levels.

I can understand your forgiveness for her. But the main concern is if the parents of the children forgave or can forgive her. And it is not us who have the right to hate her, why, she didn't do anything to us, unless you count making the headlines. But I don't understand how it could ever be possible, in lie or truth, that the parents could ever forgive her. If I was a parent, and had lost a child to her and Brady, no matter what influenced her, I would be full of spite and ager towards both of them.

She may have been the model Christian for a few years, but the parents would probably have appreciated that a little more before the torture, abuse, and ultimately, killing.
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:39
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RM18 wrote:
> That's just the difference between us - if I read of the death of a
> child killer, then sympathy is the last emotion evoked in me.

Its not her death that has caused my sympathy. I don't really feel anything about it. Its more her life that I feel sorry about.
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:37
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That's just the difference between us - if I read of the death of a child killer, then sympathy is the last emotion evoked in me.
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:33
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RM18 wrote:


> No, if you read about the crimes she committed, then no-one has to
> tell you to hate her, its a natural reaction becuase what she did to
> those children was evil.

I have also read your reply to my comments in Life

I don't have this 'natural reaction' of hating her for what she did. To be honest I felt sorry for I her, but I doubt you couls understand that.

Of course what she did was a dispicable act and the act I do loath, but it takes a lot for me to hate a person. Who am I to judge Myra Hindly, I don't know what motivated her, how much she was under the direction of Brady. If she is truly sorry in her heart.

What I'm trying to say is, Hate the action, and don't judge why the person took that action unless you can she into thier heart and mind.

I also believe that if someone is truely sorry then they should be forgiven. By this I don't mean relesed from any sentence, because if a person is sorry then they will be able to realise that they deseverve the punishment they have been given.
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:27
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Keep on Preaching Brother...
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:21
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Mr. Happy wrote:
> Tribute wrote:
> Hoob Hoob Hooray, one of the worlds most sinister people has dies...
> I
> wish she'd had stayed alive for a bit longer though and suffered...
>
> Why don't you all shut up.
> You have no idea about the crimes she committed because they took
> place in the sixties.

Oh, what Hitler did do that was so bad, that was in the Thirties and Forties...

> But the Sun tells you to hate her, so hate her like a mindless
> guppie.

No, if you read about the crimes she committed, then no-one has to tell you to hate her, its a natural reaction becuase what she did to those children was evil.
Sat 16/11/02 at 10:20
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Mr. Happy wrote:
> Why don't you all shut up.
> You have no idea about the crimes she committed because they took
> place in the sixties.

Does that make them any nicer than they were? Any less horrific?

> But the Sun tells you to hate her, so hate her like a mindless
> guppie.

I don't read the Sun.

> The reason Myra Hindley could not be released was that she was at
> danger from the public. I doubt very much that she still posed a
> threat to anyone.

And because she killed loads of kids and buried them on the moors.

> Who am I to comment though? These crimes happened 20 years or so
> before I was born.

Indeed

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