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Sat 16/11/02 at 11:02
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We all have morals, most are probably different from each other but the majority of us will all agree on certain things being wrong. We can tell what is right and what is wrong, sometimes views differ from person to person. So what does this mean for us gamers and how does any of this tie in or affect gaming in any way?

As you all know games are not real, never have and never will be. As technology improves we may well reach the standard of realistic graphics at the standard where it is difficult to determine what is real and what is a game. But why should that matter? If you know it is a game then surely it is alright whatever you do, surely anything should be in a game as long as the certificate rating of the game is chosen correctly.
Take films, anything can really be done in an 18 certificate movie with the exception of some. This mean if you are 18 you can watch it and most of us have probably seen some awful things in films. So why do games get slated so much?
Games haven't yet reached the photo-realistic graphics so it is easy for an adult to tell the difference. As an adult we all know right from wrong, well most do anyway.

I think a big problem lies with those who still give gaming the kiddie image and therefore it should be suitable for anyone, then when they realise it isn't instead of realising they were wrong for buying or allowing for it to be bought they blame the developer and publishers for making and allowing such a game to be made.

There are certain things I see as being wrong, killing children, abusing children, really anything horrible that is done to children in my opinion shouldn't be in a game, there was an issue before about killing a pregnant lady in a game and I disagree with this too. But not for the reasons that it is plainly wrong but because games are supposed to be fun and a form of entertainment and I don't see how killing a pregnant lady or abusing a child can make a game fun and in my view anyone who does is a little sick.

I think developers should be allowed to include whatever they like in a game as long as it is given the appropriate rating, but developers should only include things if they create fun in the game.

In real life would you shoot back if someone was shooting at you? Probably, it is ok in games to shoot armed guards who shoot at you but what if it was a child shooting at you? Now this is where it all comes down to the person. Some would be outraged by a developer including such a thing, others would just treat it as a game and think nothing off it.

I get a bit annoyed when you see the likes of national papers and people going on about how games make people violent and dangerous and how some games should be banned. Ok they are entitled to their opinion and I am entitled to mine, such people are fools. If this was the case then films, newspapers, conversations, television would all have the same effect. Adults can tell the difference and children shouldn't be playing such games so it is up to the parents - as parents to ensure that their children aren't doing things they shouldn't be.

I know this is a slight aside from the post but I think that more should be done to warn people if a game contains such scenes that maybe are unsuitable and only for a certain age group. That way parents won't complain and the industry will stop getting negative press and attention and maybe some developers won't be so picky when it comes to including certain things, who knows some developers may be holding out on certain games as the press would slate them for releasing them, we could be missing out on some good games due to the negative press.

It is games like GTA:Vice city, The getaway etc that bring on all the articles and bad press. But do the people who write these articles and the people who read them and take them to heart actually play them for themselves? In most cases I'm sure it is no, so it isn't really a valid point unless you experience it for yourself. Thats like me saying that the new Harry Potter film makes kids evil, even though I have no scientific proof or even though I haven't seen the film.
Remember don't believe everything the papers tell you. Especially the crap they write about games.
Sat 16/11/02 at 11:04
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"Must be Parkinson's"
Posts: 1,471
Good post at beggining, trailed off at the end. Well done though.
Sat 16/11/02 at 11:02
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We all have morals, most are probably different from each other but the majority of us will all agree on certain things being wrong. We can tell what is right and what is wrong, sometimes views differ from person to person. So what does this mean for us gamers and how does any of this tie in or affect gaming in any way?

As you all know games are not real, never have and never will be. As technology improves we may well reach the standard of realistic graphics at the standard where it is difficult to determine what is real and what is a game. But why should that matter? If you know it is a game then surely it is alright whatever you do, surely anything should be in a game as long as the certificate rating of the game is chosen correctly.
Take films, anything can really be done in an 18 certificate movie with the exception of some. This mean if you are 18 you can watch it and most of us have probably seen some awful things in films. So why do games get slated so much?
Games haven't yet reached the photo-realistic graphics so it is easy for an adult to tell the difference. As an adult we all know right from wrong, well most do anyway.

I think a big problem lies with those who still give gaming the kiddie image and therefore it should be suitable for anyone, then when they realise it isn't instead of realising they were wrong for buying or allowing for it to be bought they blame the developer and publishers for making and allowing such a game to be made.

There are certain things I see as being wrong, killing children, abusing children, really anything horrible that is done to children in my opinion shouldn't be in a game, there was an issue before about killing a pregnant lady in a game and I disagree with this too. But not for the reasons that it is plainly wrong but because games are supposed to be fun and a form of entertainment and I don't see how killing a pregnant lady or abusing a child can make a game fun and in my view anyone who does is a little sick.

I think developers should be allowed to include whatever they like in a game as long as it is given the appropriate rating, but developers should only include things if they create fun in the game.

In real life would you shoot back if someone was shooting at you? Probably, it is ok in games to shoot armed guards who shoot at you but what if it was a child shooting at you? Now this is where it all comes down to the person. Some would be outraged by a developer including such a thing, others would just treat it as a game and think nothing off it.

I get a bit annoyed when you see the likes of national papers and people going on about how games make people violent and dangerous and how some games should be banned. Ok they are entitled to their opinion and I am entitled to mine, such people are fools. If this was the case then films, newspapers, conversations, television would all have the same effect. Adults can tell the difference and children shouldn't be playing such games so it is up to the parents - as parents to ensure that their children aren't doing things they shouldn't be.

I know this is a slight aside from the post but I think that more should be done to warn people if a game contains such scenes that maybe are unsuitable and only for a certain age group. That way parents won't complain and the industry will stop getting negative press and attention and maybe some developers won't be so picky when it comes to including certain things, who knows some developers may be holding out on certain games as the press would slate them for releasing them, we could be missing out on some good games due to the negative press.

It is games like GTA:Vice city, The getaway etc that bring on all the articles and bad press. But do the people who write these articles and the people who read them and take them to heart actually play them for themselves? In most cases I'm sure it is no, so it isn't really a valid point unless you experience it for yourself. Thats like me saying that the new Harry Potter film makes kids evil, even though I have no scientific proof or even though I haven't seen the film.
Remember don't believe everything the papers tell you. Especially the crap they write about games.

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