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Tue 19/11/02 at 22:42
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What is the second largest games machine in the world? Yep the Gameboy Advance that's what and what better way to attract people to the cube than to offer both the GBA and Gamecube function in one?

Bad idea? For a Gamecube gamers point of view this is brilliant, from a GBA owners point of view it is stupid and an overall view it is generally a very bad thing. Or is it? You need a Gamecube disc to use it, if you want to use it on the go you can't. If you want multiplayer you need a GBA. And how is this going to persuade current GBA owners? Why is this such a long winded way of doing a GBA-TV link? Especially where ones out there from third parties work fine, will be cheaper and smaller???? Why is it so large? Larger than the GBA as a whole and far more suspecious and finally how many of you have noticed that the GBA Player in fact makes the Gamecube basically the proper size of the Cube. It's as if it was supposed to be there from the start. Well my dearest friend over at Cube Europe and I discussed this and you can read in his special edition or here what I think it is all about.

ONLINE!

The poster that read the greatest opponent you will ever face is the entire world, catch them all over again on Nintendo Gamecube made us all think a Gamecube Pokemon game is in the works. Not just that but a 3D proper RPG one. Now this doesn't seem right, Pokemon is the number one Gameboy seller to release it on a home console in full 3D could well damage the GBA franchise dramatically. So i always found it odd, cool but odd that Nintendo are making a Gamecube one... but what if they aren't?

Nintendo are worried about making online games, Microsoft basically confirmed that they said Nintendo have got something big up their sleeves, they won't comit themselves so if it goes wrong it won't be a disaster but they have something big! How did Microsoft know? Who knows but Microsoft fear Nintendo for the simple reason that they are clever, very clever. Nintendo have a problem with GBA online gaming, mobile phone gaming is clever yet with so many different ones in america and europe it means games like the previous Pokemon Crystal cannot go online. But... the Gamecube by March next year will have online capabilities world wide. Picking up on something here? What if Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire announced online play or the mysteriously dissapearing Pokemon World resurfaced (the name would make sense) and by plugging it into your Gamecube you could go online?

It all begins to make sense. This wouldn’t require incredibly complex servers, or huge amounts of bandwidth, and could deal with huge numbers. And huge numbers would be drawn, make no doubt about it. The hardware presumably supports internet play, and the GameCube boot disk allows local dialup and internet functionality. And naturally who do Nintendo tell about this idea? Their closest rivals, Square know about it, Konami know about it and by heck do Capcom know about it. Final Fantasy on the Gamecube? Hard to believe it was yet imagine how square would react on seeing this gold mine of a plan. They'd jump aboard... and so have SEGA and Namco and Konami have already delayed a large announcement as well as confirmed Pro Evo is coming to the Gamecube. Large announcement? Metal gear perhaps? Nintendo would make a killing by allowing online play with GBA games on the Gamecube, it is low risk and one thing Miyamoto-san didn't like was the fact that Online games are never finished and require constant maintance. An Online GBA game like Pokemon won't and this is just one of many. Why has the GBA been filled with ports and nothing spectacular and new to sell it? Why is the Cube not a cube? And why do Nintendo hark on about the link up when there isn't anything special about it at all? Because my friends the GBA will have something spectacular to sell it, the Gamecube will be a cube and the link up will have something special about it.

I'll quote from my Cube-europe friend of whom I discussed this with:

"This hardware is given a fairly muted unveiling a couple of weeks before December. Then, in December, Nintendo unveil their online GBA plans for Pokemon, which has people bouncing off the walls with excitement. Around the same time, the major Japanese players throw their support behind the GameCube, knowing that Nintendo are onto a very good thing. A month later, the GameCube is online in all territories, giving a few months to iron out any problems with servers in each territory. Then the GBA player is launched in Japan, then the USA, then Europe, with Metroid Prime being a killer app for it immediately in Japan and Europe, and Zelda providing additional quality material. Then Pokemon is unleashed upon the world, and GameCube sales go through the roof. The following Christmas, the first of the major announcement games start to appear on the GameCube – Resident Evil 4, Pro Evolution Soccer, Final Fantasy etc, and suddenly the GameCube’s original target of 50 million units sold does not look like a fairytale at all."

He being slightly more intelligent than I also reminded me about the increase in IBM chips Nintendo are ordering? Now why is that?

I could be right, the announcement to be made in December that will apparently make Nintendo meet and beat all targets they promised to make could well be online play on the GBA. Nothing is concreate, it could simply be another Dragon Quest game (REALLY BIG GAME) but the effect despite being huge will hardly be as big as people claim it will be. GBA Player could well be the future of Nintendo... and then again I could be oh so wrong.
Wed 20/11/02 at 11:45
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Dringo wrote:
>Microsoft basically
> confirmed that they said Nintendo have got something big up their
> sleeves, they won't comit themselves so if it goes wrong it won't be a
> disaster but they have something big! How did Microsoft know?


Rare's been spilling the beans on their ex-partners! ;-D

Probably not, but Rare WILL have told MS what they were working on, and seeing as Rare had been designing a HUGE online RPG game for the Gamecube at Nintendo's request...

The project has now been ported to the Xbox but that's not the point.
The point is, Nintendo DO have plans, big ones...


I don't think it'll out-do Xbox live though...
Wed 20/11/02 at 11:35
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ive just realised, with the GBA converter thing, the cube will be Cube shaped! or at least more so. Anway Nice topic dringo! i actually read though it :)
Wed 20/11/02 at 02:30
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*rams finger through skull screaming GENIUS*


and even if it never happens, it's nice to have a conspiracy theory to spout on about.

Looking forward to the gba bottom bit though, regardless. Admittedly i'll have to try to respray it to match my blue cube... but it'll be worth it :^)

Hang on, what about the Q? Damn dirty punks, i want gba games through my Q, or i can't sell my bluecube.

Ah well, it's not like freeloader would ever be released anyway...
Wed 20/11/02 at 00:10
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"All about the Beats"
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this is good news, cause my GBA is packed up!
Wed 20/11/02 at 00:07
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Online, that would be nice.
Tue 19/11/02 at 23:18
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what a plan, you could even get to play a golden sun game online afains someone of your choice or a random player, this opens up a whole new world of opertunities. (spelt wrong again)
Tue 19/11/02 at 22:55
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That would also explain a reason for having 56k optional.

For a GBA game, a dial up connection would handle it perfectly.

Another GBA Advance Wars? Online?

mmm
Tue 19/11/02 at 22:42
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What is the second largest games machine in the world? Yep the Gameboy Advance that's what and what better way to attract people to the cube than to offer both the GBA and Gamecube function in one?

Bad idea? For a Gamecube gamers point of view this is brilliant, from a GBA owners point of view it is stupid and an overall view it is generally a very bad thing. Or is it? You need a Gamecube disc to use it, if you want to use it on the go you can't. If you want multiplayer you need a GBA. And how is this going to persuade current GBA owners? Why is this such a long winded way of doing a GBA-TV link? Especially where ones out there from third parties work fine, will be cheaper and smaller???? Why is it so large? Larger than the GBA as a whole and far more suspecious and finally how many of you have noticed that the GBA Player in fact makes the Gamecube basically the proper size of the Cube. It's as if it was supposed to be there from the start. Well my dearest friend over at Cube Europe and I discussed this and you can read in his special edition or here what I think it is all about.

ONLINE!

The poster that read the greatest opponent you will ever face is the entire world, catch them all over again on Nintendo Gamecube made us all think a Gamecube Pokemon game is in the works. Not just that but a 3D proper RPG one. Now this doesn't seem right, Pokemon is the number one Gameboy seller to release it on a home console in full 3D could well damage the GBA franchise dramatically. So i always found it odd, cool but odd that Nintendo are making a Gamecube one... but what if they aren't?

Nintendo are worried about making online games, Microsoft basically confirmed that they said Nintendo have got something big up their sleeves, they won't comit themselves so if it goes wrong it won't be a disaster but they have something big! How did Microsoft know? Who knows but Microsoft fear Nintendo for the simple reason that they are clever, very clever. Nintendo have a problem with GBA online gaming, mobile phone gaming is clever yet with so many different ones in america and europe it means games like the previous Pokemon Crystal cannot go online. But... the Gamecube by March next year will have online capabilities world wide. Picking up on something here? What if Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire announced online play or the mysteriously dissapearing Pokemon World resurfaced (the name would make sense) and by plugging it into your Gamecube you could go online?

It all begins to make sense. This wouldn’t require incredibly complex servers, or huge amounts of bandwidth, and could deal with huge numbers. And huge numbers would be drawn, make no doubt about it. The hardware presumably supports internet play, and the GameCube boot disk allows local dialup and internet functionality. And naturally who do Nintendo tell about this idea? Their closest rivals, Square know about it, Konami know about it and by heck do Capcom know about it. Final Fantasy on the Gamecube? Hard to believe it was yet imagine how square would react on seeing this gold mine of a plan. They'd jump aboard... and so have SEGA and Namco and Konami have already delayed a large announcement as well as confirmed Pro Evo is coming to the Gamecube. Large announcement? Metal gear perhaps? Nintendo would make a killing by allowing online play with GBA games on the Gamecube, it is low risk and one thing Miyamoto-san didn't like was the fact that Online games are never finished and require constant maintance. An Online GBA game like Pokemon won't and this is just one of many. Why has the GBA been filled with ports and nothing spectacular and new to sell it? Why is the Cube not a cube? And why do Nintendo hark on about the link up when there isn't anything special about it at all? Because my friends the GBA will have something spectacular to sell it, the Gamecube will be a cube and the link up will have something special about it.

I'll quote from my Cube-europe friend of whom I discussed this with:

"This hardware is given a fairly muted unveiling a couple of weeks before December. Then, in December, Nintendo unveil their online GBA plans for Pokemon, which has people bouncing off the walls with excitement. Around the same time, the major Japanese players throw their support behind the GameCube, knowing that Nintendo are onto a very good thing. A month later, the GameCube is online in all territories, giving a few months to iron out any problems with servers in each territory. Then the GBA player is launched in Japan, then the USA, then Europe, with Metroid Prime being a killer app for it immediately in Japan and Europe, and Zelda providing additional quality material. Then Pokemon is unleashed upon the world, and GameCube sales go through the roof. The following Christmas, the first of the major announcement games start to appear on the GameCube – Resident Evil 4, Pro Evolution Soccer, Final Fantasy etc, and suddenly the GameCube’s original target of 50 million units sold does not look like a fairytale at all."

He being slightly more intelligent than I also reminded me about the increase in IBM chips Nintendo are ordering? Now why is that?

I could be right, the announcement to be made in December that will apparently make Nintendo meet and beat all targets they promised to make could well be online play on the GBA. Nothing is concreate, it could simply be another Dragon Quest game (REALLY BIG GAME) but the effect despite being huge will hardly be as big as people claim it will be. GBA Player could well be the future of Nintendo... and then again I could be oh so wrong.

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