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"PCI.....AGP???"

Errrr. I don't know what these mean but I know that PCI works on older PCs, but AGP is better but only works on newer PCs. I got my PC about two years ago. It was a brand new Dell back then. Does that classify as old?

Miserableman wrote:
> What processor are you putting your Geforce 4 with?

Which do you mean, the GeForce 4 I have now or the one I'm going to upgrade to?

cipro wrote:
> Yeah PCI graphics cards are bit crap, I bought a GeForce 4 for my PCI
> slot a few weeks back and I can see no difference in grpahic quality
> between that card and my old GeForce 2. Naff.
>
> I've finally decided to sort it though now, I'm planning to build my
> own PC next year, and I will thankfully be getting a motherboard which
> supports AGP graphics cards. It's about bloody time as well.


What processor are you putting your Geforce 4 with?

Shuttle PC for me this Christmas.

The ultimate in style - I just have to change my processor that's all...

Yeah PCI graphics cards are bit crap, I bought a GeForce 4 for my PCI slot a few weeks back and I can see no difference in grpahic quality between that card and my old GeForce 2. Naff.

I've finally decided to sort it though now, I'm planning to build my own PC next year, and I will thankfully be getting a motherboard which supports AGP graphics cards. It's about bloody time as well.

AGP, accelerated graphics port.

Its specifically for graphics cards. Nothing more, nothing less. Meaning that AGP graphics cards will be alot better than PCI cards.

PCI slots are all sorts of things, modems and all sorts.

I have a 5year old PB with no AGP slots.. so I bought a PCI Voodoo32000.. 16mb.. which I cant really tell the difference between that and my old 4mb one.

PCI cards suck.

Your pc should have an AGP slot. Most computers that are younger than 3years old will have AGP. Should do anyways..

Blade2003, your so right there..

They have a 20Ghz cpu, just dont wanna release it yet.

DavidJ wrote:
> Errrr. I don't know what these mean but I know that PCI works on
> older PCs, but AGP is better but only works on newer PCs. I got my PC
> about two years ago. It was a brand new Dell back then. Does that
> classify as old?


I constantly find (to my continued amazement although I should be used to it by now) that the moment you buy a PC (like you buy a car) its immediately "old news" and "slow, rubbish" as the following week something far superior comes onto the market.

You know what---call me paranoid, but I can't help thinking that theres a conspiracy with all the computer manufacturers, who are sitting on an alien discovery of a super-computer, and know how to make an ideal model, but want to squeeze money out of all us dopes for the next 20 years.....by slowly releasing marginal improvements every few weeks/months/years...lol

Thanks everyone!

In the near future (late next year), we should begin to see AGP (including the new x8 standard) being phased out by the PCI Express interface, which goes at slightly faster speeds than AGPx8. Which should translate to more convenience, and no confusing quesitons over AGP and PCI.

Just for the record, when you are looking for the AGP slot in your comp, it'll be the *brown* coloured slot usually situated between the CPU socket and the row of PCI slots. Just for reference, the PCI slots are usually white.

Oh and if you haven't got a AGP slot on your Mobo, then you might want to get a new one. A PCI G card is a bad move dude. Even if you buy a decent PCI card (GeForce 4), it'll choke under the crap bandwidth of the PCI bus.

Your Dell should have an AGP slot, usually AGP cards are cheaper than their PCI equivalents.
AGP also have 2x, 4x or even 8x data transfer rates so I would go for the AGP option if I was you.
If not, you can get a Geforce 4 PCI card nowadays but they are a bit more expensive.
Have you not got a motherboard manual ?