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Wed 06/03/02 at 22:36
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So america are creating import duties against foreign steel...

Well, the EU have claimed it's illegal, and that if nothing is done, they could be doing the same thing.
Not sure about the moral standing of first sltaing such an idea, then doing the same things themselves if they don't get their own way, but i guess they have to put their own producers under the same protection, if only to replace the market producers will lose by not being able to export at competetive prices to the US.

However, as bush sticks two fingers up to the rest of the world (again, *cough*pollution-and-missile-defence*cough*), the rest of the world has to show that they won't tolerate it. And it looks positive. Even blair, bush's lapdog, who forever plays up the 'special relationship' between the UK and US (a concept which is wasted on the average american), has criticised the relevant bill.

Hopefully, the talk from political bodies outside the states will lead to some material action if the stubborn american frontman does go ahead with his narrow minded protectionism.


As for steel in europe? Well, if bush creates these barriers, there will be less of a market for domestic produce, but provided europe responds with its own legislation (though it would have to apply to anyone outside the EU, not just america), america will basically have to take care of their market while europe deals with its.
Also, there is much cheaper large scale steel production (mirrored in most areas of primary production) in russia and, crucially, it's eastern european former communist satelite states - which are planned to join the EU, and hence the single market.

Europe doesn't need american steel, and it doesn't need to export to america.
It's just the rest of the world i'm worried about.
Fri 08/03/02 at 06:23
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Posts: 8,220
Hmm, there's something familiar about this... : )
Thu 07/03/02 at 21:16
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"Peace Respect Punk"
Posts: 8,069
okay, this may not be that relevant (alright, the only shred of relevance is that it has to do with George dubbya) but I thought it was interesting... So here it is, in no way copied from a newsletter I recieve...

Happy new year everyone. I learned a couple of neat things today and I thought
it might be nice to share. I learned that Enron loaned their company jet to
George W for his entire presidential campaign. That was nice of them. It was
also nice of George to hire several former Enron employees for his cabinet. I
think it's nice when people help each other out. Like when Enron let the white
house know last year that they we're having financial problems in case anybody
needed to sell any stock. Who's idea was it to privatize power companies
anyway? When was the last time you went bargain shopping for electricity? I
thought it was nice when George W spoke the other day about how he wants to
fight for human dignity. That's a pretty nice thing to say from a man who
signed execution orders for over 50 people in the nice state of Texas.

Human dignity and the death penalty kind of go hand in hand don't you think? In
fact, There are 6 countries in the world other than the US that still execute
people under 18: Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and Bangladesh. It's
good to know how much we have in common with these countries known for their
superior morality. I know a nice thing we could all do, make sure that lying
m**herf**ker doesn't get re-elected, if he doesn't get impeached first. Now
that would be nice! Oh, I also learned that in the summer in Australia there's
about 100 million flys and people down here sure like to put butter on
everything.

Slayer,

Fat Mike



Thank you to Fat Mike for those words...
Wed 06/03/02 at 22:36
Regular
Posts: 8,220
So america are creating import duties against foreign steel...

Well, the EU have claimed it's illegal, and that if nothing is done, they could be doing the same thing.
Not sure about the moral standing of first sltaing such an idea, then doing the same things themselves if they don't get their own way, but i guess they have to put their own producers under the same protection, if only to replace the market producers will lose by not being able to export at competetive prices to the US.

However, as bush sticks two fingers up to the rest of the world (again, *cough*pollution-and-missile-defence*cough*), the rest of the world has to show that they won't tolerate it. And it looks positive. Even blair, bush's lapdog, who forever plays up the 'special relationship' between the UK and US (a concept which is wasted on the average american), has criticised the relevant bill.

Hopefully, the talk from political bodies outside the states will lead to some material action if the stubborn american frontman does go ahead with his narrow minded protectionism.


As for steel in europe? Well, if bush creates these barriers, there will be less of a market for domestic produce, but provided europe responds with its own legislation (though it would have to apply to anyone outside the EU, not just america), america will basically have to take care of their market while europe deals with its.
Also, there is much cheaper large scale steel production (mirrored in most areas of primary production) in russia and, crucially, it's eastern european former communist satelite states - which are planned to join the EU, and hence the single market.

Europe doesn't need american steel, and it doesn't need to export to america.
It's just the rest of the world i'm worried about.

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