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Tue 26/11/02 at 20:35
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Retro games are better than new games. That's a fact. Anybody who argues with me should go straight back to Sensible Soccer and play that for 1/2 an hour. After that they'll never be able to say that FIFA and the like are better.

Why were the old ones better? Surely games would evolve and become better? Shouldn't game developers have learnt from the past and use their ideas and 'stand on the shoulders of giants'? Apparently not. Back in the SNES's golden days you could almost guarentee that there would be at least 5 games that you MUST own each quarter of the year.

I think the wealth of 'AAA' titles back then was because it was all new - Developers were still searching for what the public wanted as home Gaming had just hit the main stream whereas previously it had been 'geeks only'. Publishers weren't certain either, and so let a lot of game through that probably wouldn't have got a look in if they were thought of today. Bomberman is a prime example. If it wasn't such a classic all those years ago, would a publisher had even touched it if it was thought up today? I doubt it.

Games these days have a lot of thing which they can hide behind. Kids don't want long, interesting games and brilliant storylines, all they need is good graphics and friends who want the game. A little bit of violence is good for the mix too. Examples? Grand Theft Auto. If it was based around, lets say, a debt company instead of the mafia, and instead of kiling people you had to go around giving them strongly worded letters without getting threatened, sales figures would go through the floor.

Back in the day (I've always wanted to say that) games had nothing to hide except for gameplay, because the NES/SNES/Megadrive didn't allow much good music or graphics. I believe that, if it went back to the way thing were, games would start getting back to their former glory. Why? Developers would have to spend less money on getting the graphics just right and have to make gameplay a lot better.

I blame it all on the Playstation...
Thu 28/11/02 at 17:39
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Yes, it is. But it's better. Much better. Except you can't loop-the-loop to dodge bullets anymore. There's also 19XX which is quite recent, may or may not be an official sequel, isn't nearly as good and, in any case, features no nudity at all.

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Wed 27/11/02 at 16:43
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Is 1943 - Battle over Midway the follow up to 1942? That game was pure class, I got it 2 years ago and have enjoy many happy minutes with it...
Wed 27/11/02 at 10:18
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This week I have been mostly playing 1943: Battle Over Midway. Now that was a game. I've also been playing Vice City, which isn't very retro at all.
Tue 26/11/02 at 22:38
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Well, the tenth time I've used that word today.

Off to bed I go...
Tue 26/11/02 at 22:37
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Nah, I meant Die Hard games in general. They're movie conversions, usually good and not retro.

Saying straight out that retro games are better than new games is too much of a generalisation. That's the tenth time of used tht word today.
Tue 26/11/02 at 22:33
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Tribute wrote:
> Can you class Die Hard Trilogy as retro? Now that is classic... It's 3
> games in one, and all the games were great...

No! Die Hard Trilogy is no retro!

And I do prefer Power Soccer to Sensible Soccer. That game hurt my eyes.
Tue 26/11/02 at 22:25
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Can you class Die Hard Trilogy as retro? Now that is classic... It's 3 games in one, and all the games were great...
Tue 26/11/02 at 22:19
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The whole topic of "retro" games is too wide-spread. A lot of early games were pants, but there were lots of good early games as well. Space Invaders and Pac-Man are a million times better than most of the film conversions put together. Except for Die Hard games. Those seem to be good.
Tue 26/11/02 at 21:53
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World Cup for the NES, it was so good, it wasn't proper football, and each team had their own "SPECIAL" kick, which made the ball act like a remote control plane, or a missile etc
Tue 26/11/02 at 21:26
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Power Soccer was the best game for the PS1 by miles - Where else could you do a Maradona and get caught every time you attempted it.

I bought it from Swapitshop a couple of months ago, and played it for it a bit. The commentary was hilarious - Whilst Beating Sheff Weds 5-1 their keeper makes a save 'This Keeper's Unbeatable today'

God, I adored that game.

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