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Tue 05/03/02 at 00:06
Regular
Posts: 787
This is incredible, there are senators in america trying to make building your own PC, among other things, illegal.

Taken from another forum:

"Specifically, I'm talking about the Security Systems Standards and Certification Act (SSSCA). This, my friends, is far worse than the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA). It is yet another piece of legislation, supported by the likes of Disney and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), that supercedes decades of Supreme Court precedence regarding private fair-use laws and places the power in the hands of media and entertainment conglomerates.

Most of my greviences I'm addressing here are related to my position as a soon-to-be researcher and graduate student in Computer Science/Computer Architecture. But by no means will the SSSCA just affect scientists. The SSSCA mandates that any digital device, hardware or software, must utilize and recognize certified security technologies. This means every piece of software; every PC; every video card, hard drive, CPU, motherboard, etc; every PDA, every DVD-player and every digital movie media; every CD player & audio CD; absolutely every consumer and enterprise digital device. The use or sale of any non-SSSCA certified device leads to civil penalties up to federal felonies.

The SSSCA, among other things, will make the following illegal:
* Assembling a home-built PC.
* Using a non-secure computer (ie, a computer built before the would-be implementation of the SSSCA) on a network.
* Widespread development of open-sourced (non-copyrighted and “digitally unsigned? software.
* Use of open-sourced software (essentially the entire software platform for the UNIX and Linux operating systems, on which Computer Science research relies).
* University and corporate research on systems, debugging, security, and watermarking.

As a future researcher in Computer Science and Engineering, this is absolutely appalling. This bill would take the United States out of the position of leadership in Computer Science and Engineering, on which the multi-billion dollar PC, software, semiconductor, and computer chip industries rely. I can't even imagine the extent that this bill will hurt our relations with foreign computing companies, as well as high-tech imports and exports.

I have never been one to indulge in “conspiracy theories?or corporate hatred, but I cannot believe how many Constitutional freedoms the SSSCA would take away from the US citizens and place into the hands of the media corporations.

Yes, there is a need for security in the digital medium, but as has been shown time and time again, the computing industry will take care of itself in the implementation. There is no need to legislate this action, and do so in such a draconian manner that its implication decimates the way the computing industry operates. The entertainment industry wants to neuter the computing industry, turning powerful, general-purpose computers into expensive movie playing terminals."

Mad or what???

The actual act is here..
http://www.politechbot.com/docs/hollings.090701.html

and this senator is backing it!
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp? source=blq/yhoo&siteid= yhoo&dist=yhoo&guid=%7BCC92A3EB-B59F-41F6-840C-4D224E765A2E%7D
Wed 06/03/02 at 20:12
Posts: 0
Yawn.

http://anti-dmca.org/ is a good read if you want more information about this kind of rubbish.

Damn you corporate america.
Wed 06/03/02 at 19:01
Posts: 0
Turbonutter wrote:
> It's not going to happen - it'll make half the Internet illegal. The web is
> built on an Apache+UNIX backbone, if it is made illegal then the whole network
> would crumble. It simply won't happen.

Thank god!
Tue 05/03/02 at 21:46
Regular
"funky blitzkreig"
Posts: 2,540
This is already happening to a certain extent. Legal copies of XP refuse to work without re-activation if you do virtually anything to your PC's innards. I cloned an old HD on to a newer one and XP refused to work until I phoned Microsoft's helpline and got them to give me a bloody code.

So even if it remains legal, Microsoft will soon put a stop to customising your PC, especially if you're afraid of Linux, like me. You shouldstill be able to build your own, but I think I'm right in saying that most of the demand for components is for updgrading rather than building new PC's from scratch. And if Windows stops people upgrading then the bottom could well fall out of the components market.
Tue 05/03/02 at 13:17
Regular
"Eff, you see, kay?"
Posts: 14,156
It's not going to happen - it'll make half the Internet illegal. The web is built on an Apache+UNIX backbone, if it is made illegal then the whole network would crumble. It simply won't happen.
Tue 05/03/02 at 11:24
Regular
"IT'S ALIVE!!"
Posts: 4,741
yeah right, this had better not happen, I really can't see it going through, think about all the small business that buy in bulk and build their own, it's not only based on personnal builders.
also every piece of software to be certified!? whats the point in serial numbers then? I can't see big companies working with Disney on this, don't see how they're at the top of it anyway.
this is stupid, stupid publicity stunts...etc, this had better not go through.
Tue 05/03/02 at 08:49
Posts: 0
Damnit! That really sucks, and the 'no open-source' law is a big bummer. I have to go now, bye.
Tue 05/03/02 at 00:06
Regular
"How Handy."
Posts: 2,631
This is incredible, there are senators in america trying to make building your own PC, among other things, illegal.

Taken from another forum:

"Specifically, I'm talking about the Security Systems Standards and Certification Act (SSSCA). This, my friends, is far worse than the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA). It is yet another piece of legislation, supported by the likes of Disney and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), that supercedes decades of Supreme Court precedence regarding private fair-use laws and places the power in the hands of media and entertainment conglomerates.

Most of my greviences I'm addressing here are related to my position as a soon-to-be researcher and graduate student in Computer Science/Computer Architecture. But by no means will the SSSCA just affect scientists. The SSSCA mandates that any digital device, hardware or software, must utilize and recognize certified security technologies. This means every piece of software; every PC; every video card, hard drive, CPU, motherboard, etc; every PDA, every DVD-player and every digital movie media; every CD player & audio CD; absolutely every consumer and enterprise digital device. The use or sale of any non-SSSCA certified device leads to civil penalties up to federal felonies.

The SSSCA, among other things, will make the following illegal:
* Assembling a home-built PC.
* Using a non-secure computer (ie, a computer built before the would-be implementation of the SSSCA) on a network.
* Widespread development of open-sourced (non-copyrighted and “digitally unsigned? software.
* Use of open-sourced software (essentially the entire software platform for the UNIX and Linux operating systems, on which Computer Science research relies).
* University and corporate research on systems, debugging, security, and watermarking.

As a future researcher in Computer Science and Engineering, this is absolutely appalling. This bill would take the United States out of the position of leadership in Computer Science and Engineering, on which the multi-billion dollar PC, software, semiconductor, and computer chip industries rely. I can't even imagine the extent that this bill will hurt our relations with foreign computing companies, as well as high-tech imports and exports.

I have never been one to indulge in “conspiracy theories?or corporate hatred, but I cannot believe how many Constitutional freedoms the SSSCA would take away from the US citizens and place into the hands of the media corporations.

Yes, there is a need for security in the digital medium, but as has been shown time and time again, the computing industry will take care of itself in the implementation. There is no need to legislate this action, and do so in such a draconian manner that its implication decimates the way the computing industry operates. The entertainment industry wants to neuter the computing industry, turning powerful, general-purpose computers into expensive movie playing terminals."

Mad or what???

The actual act is here..
http://www.politechbot.com/docs/hollings.090701.html

and this senator is backing it!
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp? source=blq/yhoo&siteid= yhoo&dist=yhoo&guid=%7BCC92A3EB-B59F-41F6-840C-4D224E765A2E%7D

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