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Fri 22/02/02 at 00:05
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I have recently found myself rekindling my love of books, and am currently reading Nineteen Eighty-four by George Orwell, and so far it has proved very entertaining. But while this book lives up to its reputation, many do not. Take, for example, The Lord of the Rings. Considered by many to be the greatest book ever written, and the most read Fantasy novel ever. But is it any good. Nope. The book(s) change sporadically from fast pace to slow pace, and always giving pages of deatails on the smallest and most insignificant things, but missing some really big details out completely. And if I ever read another one of those bloody songs.........perhaps the only word tha can be said entirely truthfully to describe LOTR in a good light is "Epic" which is undoubtedly why it is mistaken for a classic. But the story is nothing without good writing to back it up. It's a shame really, the preceding book, The Hobbit, was very good indeed.
Reputations can also work the other way. I seldom hear a good word said about novels taken from TV programmes, and again this is generally deserved because they are mainly garbage. But to Tar them all with the same brush is folly indeed, and in doing so people miss some hidden classics. Take for example a book from the cult TV series Doctor Who, titled Illegal Alien. This is undoubtedly one of the best books I have ever read, if not THE best, but it will never be recognised as the true classic it is because of the misguided preconception that all TV spin-off books are tripe.
It is indeed a sad world when some books get reputations as classics that they don't deserve, and some are missed completely.
Sun 24/02/02 at 12:12
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Mouldy Cheese, you are so right. I have read both 1984 and Day of the Triffids, and they are both excellent. I haven't read the beach, but it shall go on my list of books to read (There's quite a few already on there). Also, I just bought a copy of Night of the Triffids by Simon Clark, the new sequel to DOTT. I hope it's as good as it's predecessor.
Here's a few I recomend:

-Lieutenant Hornblower (and the rest of the Hornblower series)
-The Hobbit
-The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy
-Only You Can Save Mankind
-Twist of Gold (More for the younger reader, but still a good read)
-Doctor Who: Illegal Alien (Very good, even if you have no knowledge of the TV series)

Any more suggestions?
Sun 24/02/02 at 08:40
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1. The Beach

2. 1984.

3. Day Of The Triffids

That is, IMO.
Fri 22/02/02 at 20:15
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i read spot the dog ages ago. you just have to broaden your mind, like me, - i am a connisseur or the arts - i appriciate all forms of art, be they master pieces like Gladiator, Fight Club and Miss Congeniality (for the comedy!!!) or books like The Beach. i am a independant and cultured persone who is just trying to broaden all of the members of this forums minds. if you want any advice on which books to buy just ask me and i'll be happy to help!!
Fri 22/02/02 at 18:54
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FilmBuff wrote:
> the best book ever is probably Alex Garlands The Beach, not many people know
> that this was written BEFORE the fil which is unusual. When i saw the movie i
> had to read the book and it is great, probably the best book ever next to The
> Lord of the Rings. you have to read it. 1984 sounds a little too science fiction
> for me. anyway, books are not really in fashion any more, (too mainstreem) so i
> tend to stick to otehr things.


FilmBuff, go back to sleep! Firstly, the majority of all books are written before the film, so it is quite a bloody long way from 'unusual'. Secondly, 1984 has absolutely nothing to do with science fiction, which you would know if you had even thought about reading it before you made up your mind you wouldn't like it. Thirdly, and I think most people with a brain would agree with me, books are always in fashion, it's just that the intellectually challenged like yourself are too lazy and stupid to pick up a book and read it. I mean, you wouldn't want to hurt yourself.


And as for you Mr. Stryke, no I never considered other peoples opinions. They are not important. It is what I personally think that matters to me, and what you personally think that matters to you. You like Lord of the Rings, I think it's slightly overrated. That's fine, and I'm sure that neither of us will change the others opinion. And anyway the quality of Lord of the Rings is not the point. The point is that it is quite sad that some books get reputations that they don't deserve, and some books are never even heard of by most people, so they don't even get a chance at being considered good.
And if you'd care to argue the pros and cons of Spot the Dog I will be only too happy to oblige :-)
Fri 22/02/02 at 07:49
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So half the world are wrong when they rate it the best fantasy book ever? Consider stopping to consider another persons opinion?

While George Orwell is a moderately good author, 1984 and Animal Farm pale in comparison to the masterpiece that is Lord of the Rings. It's superbly written. So it changes perspectives? Oh no, the author's showing his talent! Wouldn't want that to happen. Idiot. Get back to reading Spot the Dog.
Fri 22/02/02 at 01:36
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Mystique wrote:
> *preys to god that stryke doesn't see this*

Ah, so you go searching for prey, and give it to god? I'm confused...
Fri 22/02/02 at 01:01
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*preys to god that stryke doesn't see this*
Fri 22/02/02 at 00:10
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the best book ever is probably Alex Garlands The Beach, not many people know that this was written BEFORE the fil which is unusual. When i saw the movie i had to read the book and it is great, probably the best book ever next to The Lord of the Rings. you have to read it. 1984 sounds a little too science fiction for me. anyway, books are not really in fashion any more, (too mainstreem) so i tend to stick to otehr things.
Fri 22/02/02 at 00:05
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I have recently found myself rekindling my love of books, and am currently reading Nineteen Eighty-four by George Orwell, and so far it has proved very entertaining. But while this book lives up to its reputation, many do not. Take, for example, The Lord of the Rings. Considered by many to be the greatest book ever written, and the most read Fantasy novel ever. But is it any good. Nope. The book(s) change sporadically from fast pace to slow pace, and always giving pages of deatails on the smallest and most insignificant things, but missing some really big details out completely. And if I ever read another one of those bloody songs.........perhaps the only word tha can be said entirely truthfully to describe LOTR in a good light is "Epic" which is undoubtedly why it is mistaken for a classic. But the story is nothing without good writing to back it up. It's a shame really, the preceding book, The Hobbit, was very good indeed.
Reputations can also work the other way. I seldom hear a good word said about novels taken from TV programmes, and again this is generally deserved because they are mainly garbage. But to Tar them all with the same brush is folly indeed, and in doing so people miss some hidden classics. Take for example a book from the cult TV series Doctor Who, titled Illegal Alien. This is undoubtedly one of the best books I have ever read, if not THE best, but it will never be recognised as the true classic it is because of the misguided preconception that all TV spin-off books are tripe.
It is indeed a sad world when some books get reputations as classics that they don't deserve, and some are missed completely.

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