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This is my first attempt at ever writing anything remotely deep and meaningful, so forgive me if I go off on one here.
Most of your actions happen because of your brain. The brain dictates what your body does - as you read this, you are doing so because your brain is telling your eyes to scan each word. The brain then interprets all these lines and squiggles, and processes them.
'I' is the word we use to refer to ourselves. When you kick a football, you say ‘I kicked a football’. In reality, you didn’t kick the football, a mass of skin, bone, and flesh that is connected to your nervous system and thus your brain, kicked it, under command from your brain.
But say you kicked a wall or something, and it caused pain. Why would you have an unpleasant feeling, just because something connected to your nervous system slammed into something else at speed? Why could this not be interpreted by your brain as a pleasant feeling, instead of a ‘bad’ one?
What I’m trying to say in a long, drawn out way, is the question - why is pain bad?
Surely it would be better for the brain to consider everything as pleasant? That way you would never be unhappy, you would never be in pain, because pain wouldn’t exist.
You could say that our brains have evolved to associate pain with weakness, and thus death. I reckon this would be the answer that most people, having thought about it for a while, would come up with. It’s the same reason we consider that some smells are ‘bad’ – they’re associated with death. So, basically, the brain wards the body off going and running into walls by giving the body a ‘bad’ feeling when it does something self-destructive.
I wouldn’t say that, though. I, being a fairly peculiar (One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest) chap, think that the reason we still feel pain in this day and age where the only threat to our species dominance is ourselves is because we have not yet evolved far enough to consider pain as something that does not indicate danger.
Perhaps that’s why you can’t feel pain when you’ve got cannabis in your system. Maybe it dulls the survival instinct in the brain, and so pain is not registered as something bad. Speaking of drugs, maybe the human race will eventually become immune to alcohol, just because the instinct to stay alert as possible will have been used so much through the drunken generations that it will become very powerful.
If I don’t make sense to you… go and start a thread about the notable elections. We could really do with another one dontcha think?
Most of your actions happen because of your brain. The brain dictates what your body does - as you read this, you are doing so because your brain is telling your eyes to scan each word. The brain then interprets all these lines and squiggles, and processes them.
'I' is the word we use to refer to ourselves. When you kick a football, you say ‘I kicked a football’. In reality, you didn’t kick the football, a mass of skin, bone, and flesh that is connected to your nervous system and thus your brain, kicked it, under command from your brain.
But say you kicked a wall or something, and it caused pain. Why would you have an unpleasant feeling, just because something connected to your nervous system slammed into something else at speed? Why could this not be interpreted by your brain as a pleasant feeling, instead of a ‘bad’ one?
What I’m trying to say in a long, drawn out way, is the question - why is pain bad?
Surely it would be better for the brain to consider everything as pleasant? That way you would never be unhappy, you would never be in pain, because pain wouldn’t exist.
You could say that our brains have evolved to associate pain with weakness, and thus death. I reckon this would be the answer that most people, having thought about it for a while, would come up with. It’s the same reason we consider that some smells are ‘bad’ – they’re associated with death. So, basically, the brain wards the body off going and running into walls by giving the body a ‘bad’ feeling when it does something self-destructive.
I wouldn’t say that, though. I, being a fairly peculiar (One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest) chap, think that the reason we still feel pain in this day and age where the only threat to our species dominance is ourselves is because we have not yet evolved far enough to consider pain as something that does not indicate danger.
Perhaps that’s why you can’t feel pain when you’ve got cannabis in your system. Maybe it dulls the survival instinct in the brain, and so pain is not registered as something bad. Speaking of drugs, maybe the human race will eventually become immune to alcohol, just because the instinct to stay alert as possible will have been used so much through the drunken generations that it will become very powerful.
If I don’t make sense to you… go and start a thread about the notable elections. We could really do with another one dontcha think?
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I thnk pain s there to teach us what is right or wrong, E.G, it will hurt if we kick a wall with no shoes on, so our brain teaches us that it's wrong to do so by telling us, know what I mean?
Your Honour wrote:
"Pain is all in the mind?"
From what you just said, yeah. Memories, and the difficulties of change. That's almost certainly in the mind.
That's not to say that's a bad thing, hell no. That's just compassion.
"Pain is all in the mind?"
From what you just said, yeah. Memories, and the difficulties of change. That's almost certainly in the mind.
That's not to say that's a bad thing, hell no. That's just compassion.
Craw wrote:
> Can anybody really remember what pain feels like though...?
Yep. Some pain will stick in your memory and just thinking about it will almost bring it back.
Not saying thats a bad thing tho'. Pain isn't in general (no I'm not a sado-mascicist...). Pain is simply designed to warn you when something is wrong. Like oh so many things, it takes the ingenuity of the human animal to make pain a bad thing.
> Can anybody really remember what pain feels like though...?
Yep. Some pain will stick in your memory and just thinking about it will almost bring it back.
Not saying thats a bad thing tho'. Pain isn't in general (no I'm not a sado-mascicist...). Pain is simply designed to warn you when something is wrong. Like oh so many things, it takes the ingenuity of the human animal to make pain a bad thing.
Pain is losing a loved one.
Pain is realising something you believed in with all your heart, doesn't actually exist.
Pain is all in the mind?
Pain is realising something you believed in with all your heart, doesn't actually exist.
Pain is all in the mind?
Can anybody really remember what pain feels like though...?
Pain is a basic survival instinct that we have to protect our lives, if we did not feel pain then the human race would cese to be, for instance when we do fight the reason why we don't feel the pain is adrenalin but if you was losing badly and realy getting the SH** kicked out of you i would expect you would know about it then, it is a know fact that if you were down on the floor and someone was kicking you that you would curl up and protect your head (your brain) even if the person was repeatedly kicking you in the love spuds, this is a natural survivial instinct, also if you were having a fight and didnt feel pain then you would both KILL eachother and eventually the human race would either die of killing eachother or accidently walking in front of a bus because last time you did it, it didnt hurt, that is another reason why you feel pain as it makes you more aware of your surrounding because you have a "FEAR" of getting hurt so you would make sure there isnt a bus coming before you cross the road.
I thought the reason why divers who just hold there breath take alot of deep breaths before going under water was to get more oxygen in your blood to keep it going to your brain because when your brain is starved of oxygen you black out.
c.b.
I thought the reason why divers who just hold there breath take alot of deep breaths before going under water was to get more oxygen in your blood to keep it going to your brain because when your brain is starved of oxygen you black out.
c.b.
Ash1ey wrote:
> bread in french isn't it
I laughed.
> bread in french isn't it
I laughed.
Grix Thraves wrote:
And also, have you ever been in a fight? ....
When it's over, and ONLY when it's
> over, do you really begin to feel the pain.
Heh, i've not been in anything resembling a fight for years, but i get the same thing with my feet playing basketball oddly enough. As soon as i leave the court and take my shoes off, the pain comes flooding into my feet. Might just be because the pressure that surrounded them has been taken off, but i kind of think it's more about the focus and adrenaline of playing, then the removal of the psychological state of mind that lets you think about pain. Possibly the symbolic removing the shoes, signaling the end, or maybe just because it is over. I take my shoes off right away, so i guess i wouldn't know.
To me though, it kind of is the same thing. Not necessarily survival instincts, but the common physiological changes envolved in fighting and intense sport.
The
> "professionals" at this do something rather extraordinary. They
> hyperventilate.
This, however, is dangerous, and comes back
> to why we feel pain. The hyperventilaters run out of oxygen, and don't realise
> it, because the carbon dioxide levels are still low.
So, you run out of
> oxygen, have no desire to breathe, and knock yourself out. And drown,
> obviously.
Wow, i used to do that when i swam, or just held my breath. I always figured it was just about getting a higher oxygen saturation in the blood. Guess i won't be trying that any more.
Thanks for saving my life there grix : )
And also, have you ever been in a fight? ....
When it's over, and ONLY when it's
> over, do you really begin to feel the pain.
Heh, i've not been in anything resembling a fight for years, but i get the same thing with my feet playing basketball oddly enough. As soon as i leave the court and take my shoes off, the pain comes flooding into my feet. Might just be because the pressure that surrounded them has been taken off, but i kind of think it's more about the focus and adrenaline of playing, then the removal of the psychological state of mind that lets you think about pain. Possibly the symbolic removing the shoes, signaling the end, or maybe just because it is over. I take my shoes off right away, so i guess i wouldn't know.
To me though, it kind of is the same thing. Not necessarily survival instincts, but the common physiological changes envolved in fighting and intense sport.
The
> "professionals" at this do something rather extraordinary. They
> hyperventilate.
This, however, is dangerous, and comes back
> to why we feel pain. The hyperventilaters run out of oxygen, and don't realise
> it, because the carbon dioxide levels are still low.
So, you run out of
> oxygen, have no desire to breathe, and knock yourself out. And drown,
> obviously.
Wow, i used to do that when i swam, or just held my breath. I always figured it was just about getting a higher oxygen saturation in the blood. Guess i won't be trying that any more.
Thanks for saving my life there grix : )
What is pain?
Well the way I see it is: Pleasure is sweet pain.
So pain is pleasure minus the sensations of satisfaction.
There you go. Sorted.
Well the way I see it is: Pleasure is sweet pain.
So pain is pleasure minus the sensations of satisfaction.
There you go. Sorted.
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