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Fri 15/02/02 at 14:34
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So, now those clever people have cloned a cat too? Good, good, now some rich eccentrics will pay scientists to make clones of their dead pets, and complain when it has slightly different fur markings, or when it doesn't like the same cat food as the original cat.

But is this really a good thing? Cloning an animal? First off, why clone a pet, when there are animals that have been abandoned and need homes? Why not pick up one of them when your old pet dies? Cloning your old pet is just going to mean less people will want 'new' pets, and more animals that can't get homes will be abandoned or put down.

Will we soon be seeing cloned dogs? What other breeds will get cloned? Mice, birds, fish, reptiles? Who knows? Maybe scientists will splice species together to create all new designer pets.

And how long before scientists decide they are sick of animals and want to clone a human being? Now without this turning into an episode of the X-Files, I'm sure you can all imagine how cloning humans could be abused. DNA used in crime solving would be meaningless if two, three, ten, individuals have the same DNA. A clone of someone could be created specifically to frame someone for a crime, all they would need is a DNA sample. And genetic engineering could lead to creating a clone of an individual, but changing various genes to enhance characteristics.

Altering genes to ensure a person will not inherit a genetic disorder seems fine and good to me, but if scientists start messing around with other genes in order to create a 'super' human, then it's a different matter. And then they only need to get one of these 'super' humans with the right genes, and through cloning they could create a race of 'super' humans.

This may be sounding like a bad sci-fi series, but with the human genome project mapping out human genes, and cloning, this could become a reality. And if anyone saw the 'how to make a human' (I think it was called) series on the BBC, you may remember the 'designer baby' bit, about parents picking and choosing genes. I think that is awful. As well as parents being able to create a child with (what they see as) all the best characteristics, think of the social implications. People who weren't genetically engineered could be seen as inferior, and insurance companies (ie. for life insurance) could request your genetic information to make sure you didn't have the genes that would make you susceptable to particular diseases, and if you did they'd charge you god knows how much more for life insurance.

Some of the implications are grim.
Fri 15/02/02 at 16:00
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Yeah, creating robots and various mechanics with high artificial intelligence is also a risky fare, but at least with that, people have some control. Artificial intelligence is programmed, and so things can be programmed not to do certain things (like rebel against their masters and destroy humankind), but whether that works in practice, especially when the intelligence gets very high, who can tell.

Creating 'super' humans is riskier, because humans make their own decisions, and a very intelligent human could for example develop a cure for a deadly disease, or could develop a new super weapon for some power hungry nation with enough money to pay to the individual. A risky business.
Fri 15/02/02 at 15:17
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You have a good point, but all the "worst" scenerios will happen as all scientists will try everything just to prove it can be done, But how do we know that these "super humans" will not just simply be the next step in human evolution. And you are right that when the "super humans" are created all sorts of weakness will be seen as a disability, for instance if someone has only an IQ of 110 then they will be thought of as stupid, it will end up as sort of a cast system with the highest cast being super humans, eventually the humans known as "normal" will not exist, thus the next genaration of humans in evolution.
We can also go this way by talking about making a super inteligent computers, Which will aslo be done (and not to far in the future). The terminator is quiet possible.

WILL WE NOT LEARN.

c.b.
Fri 15/02/02 at 14:34
Regular
"Peace Respect Punk"
Posts: 8,069
So, now those clever people have cloned a cat too? Good, good, now some rich eccentrics will pay scientists to make clones of their dead pets, and complain when it has slightly different fur markings, or when it doesn't like the same cat food as the original cat.

But is this really a good thing? Cloning an animal? First off, why clone a pet, when there are animals that have been abandoned and need homes? Why not pick up one of them when your old pet dies? Cloning your old pet is just going to mean less people will want 'new' pets, and more animals that can't get homes will be abandoned or put down.

Will we soon be seeing cloned dogs? What other breeds will get cloned? Mice, birds, fish, reptiles? Who knows? Maybe scientists will splice species together to create all new designer pets.

And how long before scientists decide they are sick of animals and want to clone a human being? Now without this turning into an episode of the X-Files, I'm sure you can all imagine how cloning humans could be abused. DNA used in crime solving would be meaningless if two, three, ten, individuals have the same DNA. A clone of someone could be created specifically to frame someone for a crime, all they would need is a DNA sample. And genetic engineering could lead to creating a clone of an individual, but changing various genes to enhance characteristics.

Altering genes to ensure a person will not inherit a genetic disorder seems fine and good to me, but if scientists start messing around with other genes in order to create a 'super' human, then it's a different matter. And then they only need to get one of these 'super' humans with the right genes, and through cloning they could create a race of 'super' humans.

This may be sounding like a bad sci-fi series, but with the human genome project mapping out human genes, and cloning, this could become a reality. And if anyone saw the 'how to make a human' (I think it was called) series on the BBC, you may remember the 'designer baby' bit, about parents picking and choosing genes. I think that is awful. As well as parents being able to create a child with (what they see as) all the best characteristics, think of the social implications. People who weren't genetically engineered could be seen as inferior, and insurance companies (ie. for life insurance) could request your genetic information to make sure you didn't have the genes that would make you susceptable to particular diseases, and if you did they'd charge you god knows how much more for life insurance.

Some of the implications are grim.

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