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Sun 10/02/02 at 22:19
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I remember reading some where recently that box office statistics showed their best return for many years in 2001. Even more recently I read somewhere that DVD is now officially the fastest growing entertainment format ever. Surpassing the surge in CD's when they first hit the shops. Worrying news indeed for the cinema industry.
Here is my comparison between the two, Cinema and DVD.
Firstly there's availablity. Well, there is no shortage of screens scattered around the country with multiplex cinemas popping up everywhere as well as the die hard local flea pit. Unfortunately, many of the major flicks such as Warner and UGC are a little reluctant to show anything that isn't home grown or Hollywood fodder. You sometimes have to travel further afield to see some of the much underrated foreign films. On the other hand, DVD's can be found almost anywhere from supermarkets to high street shops to the internet where almost any title can be found. So, first round to DVD.
Secondly, due to the anticipation of a films arrival whetting peoples appetitite even before filming has started, it's important to see the movie as soon as possible. This round has to go to the cinema even though DVD's can become available long before video format. Region 1 DVD can be easily bought by mail order or through the internet making it possible in some circumstances to have the disc before the films cinema release. Or Region 0 films from the Far East can be bought even earlier but some of these can be very sub-standard copies sometimes even filmed from the front of a smokey Malaysian cinema.
Thirdly, comfort. This is where the cinema gets beaten hands down. Today I took my girlfriend and my daughter to the cinema to see Monsters, inc. ( very entertaining it was too ). We travelled for half an hour in the rain, paid fifteen pounds and took our places in the cinema. After fifteen minutes the film started and by this time we had stood up four times to let various people walk back and forth to buy various type of food and drink that we were to listen to and smell for the next hour. The film itself was too loud but this was a small blessing because it seemed that every child within a ten mile radius was taking part in a sponsored scream right there in the cinema. When we got home, we watched a DVD. No contest!
Next up, value for money. Again DVD wins by a mile. I can buy a new disc for the same price as three cinema tickets and I can watch it as many times as I like.
Finally, how about extras? Well, on my latest DVD I have about four hours of extra material that I can watch t my leisure. I can see how the film was made, watch deleted scenes and outtakes or listen to the directors commentary telling me how a particular scene was shot. In the cinema I can listen to the Pearl and Dean music for the four millionth time followed by watching a selection of arty farty adverts that everyone laughs at every single time it plays. Cue the film, and I can listen to the Joe Bloggs commentary behind me telling me in detail how a particular scene is going to happen in thirty seconds time.
Sorry cinema but I think that year 2001 was the pinnacle. It's all downhill from now on. Wave goodbye to DVD on the way up. The King is dead, long live the King!
Thu 14/02/02 at 20:06
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"Rong Xion Tong"
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Cinemas won't go out of business because of DVDs. People will always go to the cinema since films will always be released in cinemas at least a few months before they are released on DVD.

Just think of Lord of the Rings. Demand for that is still huge!! My local cinema is still booked out almost every night and it has been on for at least 6 weeks now. Only last week was it actually pushed off the premiere screen and that was because of Monsters Inc.

Besides, how many people have an enormous screen with surround sound in their house? Exactly! People will always go to the cinema because they want to see new films. They don't want to wait 6 months so they can watch them on a 32 inch TV. Not when they could go to the cinema and watch it earlier on a god knows how big screen.

Also, you don't get the classic adverts on DVD. You only get those at the cinema. One advert where I live which has reached the status of 'Legendary advert' has only just stopped showing. I can think of plenty of classic, amusing adverts which you won't get on DVD because they only apply to local areas.

Down here you've got Northdown Road, David Downes-Powell Dental Practice and The Swan at Westgate - just a very nice place to be. I'd take a trip to the cinema just to see these every once in a while. :-D

And lets not forget the world famous Jaguar X-Type ad. That just doesn't have the same effect on TV. When you're in the cinema looking at a huge screen with surround sound, that advert becomes the best advert ever made. Chris Isaac RULES!!!

"What a wicked game to play, to make me feel this way. What a wicked thing to do, to let me dream of you, what a wicked thing to say, you never felt this way. What a wicked thing to do, to make me dream of you and IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII don't wanna fall in love.....no IIIIIIIII don't wanna fall in love......with you.......with you."

God I love that song. Hell I'm gonna go down the cinema tomorrow to see Ocean's Eleven and if I don't see that advert I'll be mightily disappointed. :-D
Thu 14/02/02 at 13:50
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"Gamertag Star Fury"
Posts: 2,710
JJJJJJ_1 wrote:
> Aren't you forgetting one small thing which is also killing the cinema industry
> off PIRACY.
As it so easy to take a small cam-corder into the cinema and
> record the whole film without anyone being none the wiser of your actions and
> then putting the new film onto a vcd and selling it for a fiver a time and also
> by doing this people will not need to buy the dvd as they have the film
> already.

Oh come on ! Like anyone buys film copies made using cam corders ! You want the ones taken from the DVD screener discs...... :) Piracy partly exists because of the stupid length of time films take to come out in the UK, and also because the DVD release dates are always miles behind the US's. Film copies can be extremely good - I've "seen" a Lord Of The Rings one that is nigh on perfect, as well as one for blackhawk down. If companies can produce screener discs for retail then why not for consumers ? Bring Black Hawk Down out on DVD and I'll hapiily shell out £20 on it right now, except that way the drinks/fast food e.t.c corporations that are part of every cinema going cannot sell me overpriced stuff.....
Mon 11/02/02 at 02:04
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"Ninty's best friend"
Posts: 831
Paragraphs mate i aint reading that,

anyway i doubt people would stop going to the cinema cause of DVD's


i stopped going so often as it's so damn exspensive now, why should i pay almost £6 to sit with a load of strangers who russle crap behind my ears and kick the seats.
Mon 11/02/02 at 01:59
Posts: 0
Aren't you forgetting one small thing which is also killing the cinema industry off PIRACY.
As it so easy to take a small cam-corder into the cinema and record the whole film without anyone being none the wiser of your actions and then putting the new film onto a vcd and selling it for a fiver a time and also by doing this people will not need to buy the dvd as they have the film already.
By this it also taking sales off dvds but I think dvds will survive the ongoing change in entertainment and cinemas will still be around when your are grey and old.
Sun 10/02/02 at 22:19
Posts: 0
I remember reading some where recently that box office statistics showed their best return for many years in 2001. Even more recently I read somewhere that DVD is now officially the fastest growing entertainment format ever. Surpassing the surge in CD's when they first hit the shops. Worrying news indeed for the cinema industry.
Here is my comparison between the two, Cinema and DVD.
Firstly there's availablity. Well, there is no shortage of screens scattered around the country with multiplex cinemas popping up everywhere as well as the die hard local flea pit. Unfortunately, many of the major flicks such as Warner and UGC are a little reluctant to show anything that isn't home grown or Hollywood fodder. You sometimes have to travel further afield to see some of the much underrated foreign films. On the other hand, DVD's can be found almost anywhere from supermarkets to high street shops to the internet where almost any title can be found. So, first round to DVD.
Secondly, due to the anticipation of a films arrival whetting peoples appetitite even before filming has started, it's important to see the movie as soon as possible. This round has to go to the cinema even though DVD's can become available long before video format. Region 1 DVD can be easily bought by mail order or through the internet making it possible in some circumstances to have the disc before the films cinema release. Or Region 0 films from the Far East can be bought even earlier but some of these can be very sub-standard copies sometimes even filmed from the front of a smokey Malaysian cinema.
Thirdly, comfort. This is where the cinema gets beaten hands down. Today I took my girlfriend and my daughter to the cinema to see Monsters, inc. ( very entertaining it was too ). We travelled for half an hour in the rain, paid fifteen pounds and took our places in the cinema. After fifteen minutes the film started and by this time we had stood up four times to let various people walk back and forth to buy various type of food and drink that we were to listen to and smell for the next hour. The film itself was too loud but this was a small blessing because it seemed that every child within a ten mile radius was taking part in a sponsored scream right there in the cinema. When we got home, we watched a DVD. No contest!
Next up, value for money. Again DVD wins by a mile. I can buy a new disc for the same price as three cinema tickets and I can watch it as many times as I like.
Finally, how about extras? Well, on my latest DVD I have about four hours of extra material that I can watch t my leisure. I can see how the film was made, watch deleted scenes and outtakes or listen to the directors commentary telling me how a particular scene was shot. In the cinema I can listen to the Pearl and Dean music for the four millionth time followed by watching a selection of arty farty adverts that everyone laughs at every single time it plays. Cue the film, and I can listen to the Joe Bloggs commentary behind me telling me in detail how a particular scene is going to happen in thirty seconds time.
Sorry cinema but I think that year 2001 was the pinnacle. It's all downhill from now on. Wave goodbye to DVD on the way up. The King is dead, long live the King!

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