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My new computer arrived yesterday (it came early!) and I am impressed, to say the least, at Windows XP. Possibly due to my new computer being 3X faster than my old one (1800MHZ-600MHZ) and having double the ram (256MB-128MB), but I love this OS so much more than Win 98. The layout is better and it runs a lot smoother than '98.
I do have on qualm with it though. When trying to disconnect from the internet, there's no connection box in the system tray, so I have to manually click "Work Offline", which is quite annoying, so does anyone know how to add the internet into the system tray?
Return to Castle Wolfenstein plays so well on my new computer! On my old one (which was under-specified), it took about 40-50 seconds to load the next level, but it takes 15 at most on the new one! I had a problem with the online play though, which kept coming up with "Connection Failed" during the game. I never had this on my old computer, so I smell a rat.
Overall though, I am thoroughly impressed with it and I hope that Microsoft can build on this with their next OS. Of course, I would love Linux. How much is it and can you tell me some more details?
Thanks in advance.
In Guerrlia Warfare, it's amazing when an arm flies past at high speed!
MOGW
I do have on qualm with it though. When trying to disconnect from the internet, there's no connection box in the system tray, so I have to manually click "Work Offline", which is quite annoying, so does anyone know how to add the internet into the system tray?
Return to Castle Wolfenstein plays so well on my new computer! On my old one (which was under-specified), it took about 40-50 seconds to load the next level, but it takes 15 at most on the new one! I had a problem with the online play though, which kept coming up with "Connection Failed" during the game. I never had this on my old computer, so I smell a rat.
Overall though, I am thoroughly impressed with it and I hope that Microsoft can build on this with their next OS. Of course, I would love Linux. How much is it and can you tell me some more details?
Thanks in advance.
In Guerrlia Warfare, it's amazing when an arm flies past at high speed!
MOGW
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Good.
*Plays with luke's soul*
*Sells it on black market*
Mmm... magic beans...
*Plays with luke's soul*
*Sells it on black market*
Mmm... magic beans...
I claim your soul. Ha ha!
Hmph!
Hm, didn't notice that response. I'll respond now.. a few decades after Rob probably assumed I'd given up.
> I'm sure Mandrake and RedHat are, but they're so poor and totally against the spirit of Linux.
Redhat is one of the industry standard server operating systems, and it does a pretty good job of it, too. The Debian guys have got the packaging system right, but if you're a business trying to maintain a set of servers as opposed to an individual trying to use Linux as a desktop and learning, it's far from poor.
If you want to advocate Linux, please don't just advocate Debian. My main distro was Redhat 7 before I went hardcore and installed Debian, and ditto with you and Mandrake. The job of these distributions is in part to deal with users trying Linux as an alternative to Windows. Giving these people three debian install floppies and telling them to go for it is going to get nowhere.
I wouldn't roll out anything but Debian now, but as Linux gains market share in the business server market more and more people are beginning to refer to "Linux 7.2" when they mean "Redhat GNU/Linux 7.2 with Linux Kernel `uname -r`". Yep, invasion of the clueless people. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though. Well, until.. Invasion Of The AOLers. Aagh.
> I was referring more to what you download. In this case, I meant downloading bear-bones and then installing the rest, like I did, as to downloading ISOs.
Great, but please refer to bare-bones /what/..
> Getting it installed is the easy part. This Debian install was fairly easy. It's getting it to work properly AFTERWARDs that's difficult.
Depends how you define "install".. I'd class it as everything up actually having a fully working system. Which, in my case, is 3 hours of totally drunken hacking (3 boot disks, a cable modem, new 2.4.17 kernel, a dist-upgrade to sid, and hell of a lot of beer..) and two hours of trying to fix it the following morning.. hi Phil, glad you have faith in me :D
> Meh, I don't really care what other people think of me anyway!
Good attitude, but it doesn't really give you the right to post rubbish that'll put people off my favourite operating system. It's mine, y'know, in the same way that this forum is yours.. :)
> I'm sure Mandrake and RedHat are, but they're so poor and totally against the spirit of Linux.
Redhat is one of the industry standard server operating systems, and it does a pretty good job of it, too. The Debian guys have got the packaging system right, but if you're a business trying to maintain a set of servers as opposed to an individual trying to use Linux as a desktop and learning, it's far from poor.
If you want to advocate Linux, please don't just advocate Debian. My main distro was Redhat 7 before I went hardcore and installed Debian, and ditto with you and Mandrake. The job of these distributions is in part to deal with users trying Linux as an alternative to Windows. Giving these people three debian install floppies and telling them to go for it is going to get nowhere.
I wouldn't roll out anything but Debian now, but as Linux gains market share in the business server market more and more people are beginning to refer to "Linux 7.2" when they mean "Redhat GNU/Linux 7.2 with Linux Kernel `uname -r`". Yep, invasion of the clueless people. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though. Well, until.. Invasion Of The AOLers. Aagh.
> I was referring more to what you download. In this case, I meant downloading bear-bones and then installing the rest, like I did, as to downloading ISOs.
Great, but please refer to bare-bones /what/..
> Getting it installed is the easy part. This Debian install was fairly easy. It's getting it to work properly AFTERWARDs that's difficult.
Depends how you define "install".. I'd class it as everything up actually having a fully working system. Which, in my case, is 3 hours of totally drunken hacking (3 boot disks, a cable modem, new 2.4.17 kernel, a dist-upgrade to sid, and hell of a lot of beer..) and two hours of trying to fix it the following morning.. hi Phil, glad you have faith in me :D
> Meh, I don't really care what other people think of me anyway!
Good attitude, but it doesn't really give you the right to post rubbish that'll put people off my favourite operating system. It's mine, y'know, in the same way that this forum is yours.. :)
Insomnia wrote:
> Rob..
[snip]
> Actually, the fact that it's hard to use is one of its
> best features.
No it isn't. I want GNU/Linux to be easier to use (while
> maintaining its security and power) for people who've never touched UN*X before.
> There is /nothing/ wrong with attracting people to our operating system, unless
> you're part of the sub-minority who want to keep Linux only for the
> "elite".
> You really get a sense of achievement when you wake
> up one day realise your system is working 100%.
Agreed, but until you don't
> /have/ to spend three weeks (in your case, aided to quite a significant degree
> by my attempts at tutoring you, or two years in my case with few contacts who
> were more knowledgeable than myself) learning how to strech your system to a
> useful state, I don't think Linux is ready for the mass market.
I'm sure Mandrake and RedHat are, but they're so poor and totally against the spirit of Linux.
>
> However, downloaded Linux is *really* hard to use.
Get your facts straight.
> Enlighten us all about how "Linux" is offered in different
> distributions, and how some distributions are easier to install than others.
> Enlighten us how you can get either download or buy most of these CDs, or
> download and write boot disks that will download the rest of the installation
> themselves. The only thing that a boxed set will usually offer over the
> downloaded ISO or self-downloaded distro is phone or email support with the
> actual company who've made the CD.
I was referring more to what you download. In this case, I meant downloading bear-bones and then installing the rest, like I did, as to downloading ISOs.
> You can download ISO images of both
> of them but I reckon they'll be extremely large.
Yes, ISO images of CDs tend
> to be large. Sigh.
> I think both Mandrake and RedHat are about
> £79.99. Rip-off, I know, but there's not much you can do about it. [..]
> But still, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Try £32 for the former
> and £45 for the latter. Redhat 7.2's boxed set includes 7 CDs and a manual
> to get you started, as well as phone support. If you don't need all that, you
> don't have to buy it. Go buy the £2 version with 2 CDs from
> cheapbytes.com. And think before you open your mouth.
Last time I checked they were both £79.99, although admittadly I haven't checked in ages.
> [..] because
> newbies will find it really hard to install some of the proper, free Linux
> packages (like Debian) without a lot of help.
"Proper"? Yeah,
> Debian is brilliant. I love Debian. I didn't need that much help to install it,
> it just took me time, and patience -- because it wasn't obvious. I even got
> scared off it a few times. That's a problem that the Debian community needs to
> address, but there's material out there to help people deal with that if they
> are inclined to actually put some effort in. For starters I'd recommend the
> Debian Installation Manual. I thought it was rather obvious -- it's on the
> Installation Instructions section under "Documentation" on the
> debian.org navbar.
> Getting it installed is the easy part.
I'd say
> that getting it installed properly is the /hard/ part. Actually using Linux is
> generally a fairly pleasant experience. And it's improving all the time. I'd
> probably feel more comfortable introducing friends to Linux in a year's time,
> when Gnome 3 is out and we're all running 2.6 kernels. I'd probably introduce
> them with Mandrake 10. Mandrake is friendly. And that's great. My personal
> hatred of Mandrake is based entirely on personal reasons (okay, the installer
> destroyed two partitions with data on it at one point. Long story, it was
> actually my fault. There are some problems with an installer being too friendly
> with regard to partitioning a harddisk. Give me fdisk any day..)
Getting it installed is the easy part. This Debian install was fairly easy. It's getting it to work properly AFTERWARDs that's difficult.
> ARGH!
> STOP TORMENTING ME!!!
I might stop tormenting you if you think before you hit
> "Post This Message" and try to keep your zealous opinions based on
> half-truths to yourself a bit.
(I was reffering to the massive connections speeds people have that I don't)
> Sorry Rob, I'll probably feel a bit less angry
> when I'm drunk -- in a few hours time.
Meh, I don't really care what other people think of me anyway!
> Rob..
[snip]
> Actually, the fact that it's hard to use is one of its
> best features.
No it isn't. I want GNU/Linux to be easier to use (while
> maintaining its security and power) for people who've never touched UN*X before.
> There is /nothing/ wrong with attracting people to our operating system, unless
> you're part of the sub-minority who want to keep Linux only for the
> "elite".
> You really get a sense of achievement when you wake
> up one day realise your system is working 100%.
Agreed, but until you don't
> /have/ to spend three weeks (in your case, aided to quite a significant degree
> by my attempts at tutoring you, or two years in my case with few contacts who
> were more knowledgeable than myself) learning how to strech your system to a
> useful state, I don't think Linux is ready for the mass market.
I'm sure Mandrake and RedHat are, but they're so poor and totally against the spirit of Linux.
>
> However, downloaded Linux is *really* hard to use.
Get your facts straight.
> Enlighten us all about how "Linux" is offered in different
> distributions, and how some distributions are easier to install than others.
> Enlighten us how you can get either download or buy most of these CDs, or
> download and write boot disks that will download the rest of the installation
> themselves. The only thing that a boxed set will usually offer over the
> downloaded ISO or self-downloaded distro is phone or email support with the
> actual company who've made the CD.
I was referring more to what you download. In this case, I meant downloading bear-bones and then installing the rest, like I did, as to downloading ISOs.
> You can download ISO images of both
> of them but I reckon they'll be extremely large.
Yes, ISO images of CDs tend
> to be large. Sigh.
> I think both Mandrake and RedHat are about
> £79.99. Rip-off, I know, but there's not much you can do about it. [..]
> But still, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Try £32 for the former
> and £45 for the latter. Redhat 7.2's boxed set includes 7 CDs and a manual
> to get you started, as well as phone support. If you don't need all that, you
> don't have to buy it. Go buy the £2 version with 2 CDs from
> cheapbytes.com. And think before you open your mouth.
Last time I checked they were both £79.99, although admittadly I haven't checked in ages.
> [..] because
> newbies will find it really hard to install some of the proper, free Linux
> packages (like Debian) without a lot of help.
"Proper"? Yeah,
> Debian is brilliant. I love Debian. I didn't need that much help to install it,
> it just took me time, and patience -- because it wasn't obvious. I even got
> scared off it a few times. That's a problem that the Debian community needs to
> address, but there's material out there to help people deal with that if they
> are inclined to actually put some effort in. For starters I'd recommend the
> Debian Installation Manual. I thought it was rather obvious -- it's on the
> Installation Instructions section under "Documentation" on the
> debian.org navbar.
> Getting it installed is the easy part.
I'd say
> that getting it installed properly is the /hard/ part. Actually using Linux is
> generally a fairly pleasant experience. And it's improving all the time. I'd
> probably feel more comfortable introducing friends to Linux in a year's time,
> when Gnome 3 is out and we're all running 2.6 kernels. I'd probably introduce
> them with Mandrake 10. Mandrake is friendly. And that's great. My personal
> hatred of Mandrake is based entirely on personal reasons (okay, the installer
> destroyed two partitions with data on it at one point. Long story, it was
> actually my fault. There are some problems with an installer being too friendly
> with regard to partitioning a harddisk. Give me fdisk any day..)
Getting it installed is the easy part. This Debian install was fairly easy. It's getting it to work properly AFTERWARDs that's difficult.
> ARGH!
> STOP TORMENTING ME!!!
I might stop tormenting you if you think before you hit
> "Post This Message" and try to keep your zealous opinions based on
> half-truths to yourself a bit.
(I was reffering to the massive connections speeds people have that I don't)
> Sorry Rob, I'll probably feel a bit less angry
> when I'm drunk -- in a few hours time.
Meh, I don't really care what other people think of me anyway!
Rob..
[snip]
> Actually, the fact that it's hard to use is one of its best features.
No it isn't. I want GNU/Linux to be easier to use (while maintaining its security and power) for people who've never touched UN*X before. There is /nothing/ wrong with attracting people to our operating system, unless you're part of the sub-minority who want to keep Linux only for the "elite".
> You really get a sense of achievement when you wake up one day realise your system is working 100%.
Agreed, but until you don't /have/ to spend three weeks (in your case, aided to quite a significant degree by my attempts at tutoring you, or two years in my case with few contacts who were more knowledgeable than myself) learning how to strech your system to a useful state, I don't think Linux is ready for the mass market.
> However, downloaded Linux is *really* hard to use.
Get your facts straight. Enlighten us all about how "Linux" is offered in different distributions, and how some distributions are easier to install than others. Enlighten us how you can get either download or buy most of these CDs, or download and write boot disks that will download the rest of the installation themselves. The only thing that a boxed set will usually offer over the downloaded ISO or self-downloaded distro is phone or email support with the actual company who've made the CD.
> You can download ISO images of both of them but I reckon they'll be extremely large.
Yes, ISO images of CDs tend to be large. Sigh.
> I think both Mandrake and RedHat are about £79.99. Rip-off, I know, but there's not much you can do about it. [..] But still, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Try £32 for the former and £45 for the latter. Redhat 7.2's boxed set includes 7 CDs and a manual to get you started, as well as phone support. If you don't need all that, you don't have to buy it. Go buy the £2 version with 2 CDs from cheapbytes.com. And think before you open your mouth.
> [..] because newbies will find it really hard to install some of the proper, free Linux packages (like Debian) without a lot of help.
"Proper"? Yeah, Debian is brilliant. I love Debian. I didn't need that much help to install it, it just took me time, and patience -- because it wasn't obvious. I even got scared off it a few times. That's a problem that the Debian community needs to address, but there's material out there to help people deal with that if they are inclined to actually put some effort in. For starters I'd recommend the Debian Installation Manual. I thought it was rather obvious -- it's on the Installation Instructions section under "Documentation" on the debian.org navbar.
> Getting it installed is the easy part.
I'd say that getting it installed properly is the /hard/ part. Actually using Linux is generally a fairly pleasant experience. And it's improving all the time. I'd probably feel more comfortable introducing friends to Linux in a year's time, when Gnome 3 is out and we're all running 2.6 kernels. I'd probably introduce them with Mandrake 10. Mandrake is friendly. And that's great. My personal hatred of Mandrake is based entirely on personal reasons (okay, the installer destroyed two partitions with data on it at one point. Long story, it was actually my fault. There are some problems with an installer being too friendly with regard to partitioning a harddisk. Give me fdisk any day..)
> ARGH! STOP TORMENTING ME!!!
I might stop tormenting you if you think before you hit "Post This Message" and try to keep your zealous opinions based on half-truths to yourself a bit.
Sorry Rob, I'll probably feel a bit less angry when I'm drunk -- in a few hours time.
[snip]
> Actually, the fact that it's hard to use is one of its best features.
No it isn't. I want GNU/Linux to be easier to use (while maintaining its security and power) for people who've never touched UN*X before. There is /nothing/ wrong with attracting people to our operating system, unless you're part of the sub-minority who want to keep Linux only for the "elite".
> You really get a sense of achievement when you wake up one day realise your system is working 100%.
Agreed, but until you don't /have/ to spend three weeks (in your case, aided to quite a significant degree by my attempts at tutoring you, or two years in my case with few contacts who were more knowledgeable than myself) learning how to strech your system to a useful state, I don't think Linux is ready for the mass market.
> However, downloaded Linux is *really* hard to use.
Get your facts straight. Enlighten us all about how "Linux" is offered in different distributions, and how some distributions are easier to install than others. Enlighten us how you can get either download or buy most of these CDs, or download and write boot disks that will download the rest of the installation themselves. The only thing that a boxed set will usually offer over the downloaded ISO or self-downloaded distro is phone or email support with the actual company who've made the CD.
> You can download ISO images of both of them but I reckon they'll be extremely large.
Yes, ISO images of CDs tend to be large. Sigh.
> I think both Mandrake and RedHat are about £79.99. Rip-off, I know, but there's not much you can do about it. [..] But still, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Try £32 for the former and £45 for the latter. Redhat 7.2's boxed set includes 7 CDs and a manual to get you started, as well as phone support. If you don't need all that, you don't have to buy it. Go buy the £2 version with 2 CDs from cheapbytes.com. And think before you open your mouth.
> [..] because newbies will find it really hard to install some of the proper, free Linux packages (like Debian) without a lot of help.
"Proper"? Yeah, Debian is brilliant. I love Debian. I didn't need that much help to install it, it just took me time, and patience -- because it wasn't obvious. I even got scared off it a few times. That's a problem that the Debian community needs to address, but there's material out there to help people deal with that if they are inclined to actually put some effort in. For starters I'd recommend the Debian Installation Manual. I thought it was rather obvious -- it's on the Installation Instructions section under "Documentation" on the debian.org navbar.
> Getting it installed is the easy part.
I'd say that getting it installed properly is the /hard/ part. Actually using Linux is generally a fairly pleasant experience. And it's improving all the time. I'd probably feel more comfortable introducing friends to Linux in a year's time, when Gnome 3 is out and we're all running 2.6 kernels. I'd probably introduce them with Mandrake 10. Mandrake is friendly. And that's great. My personal hatred of Mandrake is based entirely on personal reasons (okay, the installer destroyed two partitions with data on it at one point. Long story, it was actually my fault. There are some problems with an installer being too friendly with regard to partitioning a harddisk. Give me fdisk any day..)
> ARGH! STOP TORMENTING ME!!!
I might stop tormenting you if you think before you hit "Post This Message" and try to keep your zealous opinions based on half-truths to yourself a bit.
Sorry Rob, I'll probably feel a bit less angry when I'm drunk -- in a few hours time.
ARGH! STOP TORMENTING ME!!!
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