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Fri 03/08/07 at 10:55
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"AkaSeraphim"
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Computer games are being used to cut crime on Grimsby's estates.

Nintendo Wii units have been taken to youth clubs at night to engage with children and prevent anti-social behaviour in the area.



The wireless video game consoles allow players to control the game using physical gestures through sensors, making it ideal for sports programmes.

For the last three months, children at sites including the Nunsthorpe and West Marsh community centres have been playing the games to keep them off the streets.

The idea came about after Tony Burman, a senior warden with the North East Lincolnshire Safer Communities Neighbourhood Safety Scheme (NSS), played on his son Rob's console at Christmas.

Rob (26), a former Grimsby Telegraph reporter, was reviewing the Wii for the games console magazine he worked for.

Mr Burman (52), who runs education and youth projects in North East Lincolnshire, said: "We bought the Wii units to reduce criminal damage on the estates.

"A lot of youth centres are not there anymore and you have got to offer them something that will draw them in and say 'Come down here'.

"I have to give huge credit to the Neighbourhood Safety Scheme. It took a gamble and it has paid off. It is money well spent.

"We were the first ones to do and it will now hopefully snowball to the other councils across the country."

The Wii has also been taken into schools, including Whitgift and Immingham, as a reward for good behaviour, taking exams and as part of the Healthy Schools scheme.

Mr Burman said: "The exercise they get from the sports programs is brilliant and the children love it.

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Do you think this really can work keep kids of the streets?
How long before it becomes yesterdays thing?

Surely such thing can only keep them entertained for so long. When i got mine i was on it constantly. Ok so i dont prefer to go cause havoc on the streets, however id rather be out and about doing my own thing, rather then stuck inside playing on the Wii.

Surely young kids will get bored of it and still be back on the streets causing havoc.

What really would keep the kids off the streets?

Is there anything? You can introduce so many things, but kids get bored very easily.

Some might even say that kids will soon get bored of causing havoc. Is that true?

FOr instance when i was in year 7 in school i knew a few people who would just love go out giving others grief, stealing from shops. Also stealing cars, bulling giving people abuse. You think to yourself one day they will grow up. Wrong!!

He is now in prison doing time for all sorts. As are a few others i know.

Some people are easily pleased, so having the Nintendo Wii about may work for some. For others it just might be Fun while it lasts.

What are your views?
Sat 04/08/07 at 17:36
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"Hellfire Stoker"
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I'll admit that I was one in around 1997, and a lot of the other kids who were there, I would personally now class as worthless chav scum, but that's another matter.

Is Wii the answer? I'd think not, as they'll get nicked or trashed. And aren't much of a distraction, as of course there'll be kids queing up to use them and going nuts. I'm definitely agreeing with the sport idea, and i've often heard it said that Community Centres etc aree underfunded and underused... er, can anyone expand on my lack of knowledge?
Sat 04/08/07 at 02:24
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"Copyright: FM Inc."
Posts: 10,338
You're right pb, I'm probably thinking of around 30 years ago (1977, Silver Jubilee, where you could actually have street parties). I was a cub around that time. (I admit it).
Fri 03/08/07 at 22:43
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"possibly impossible"
Posts: 24,985
FantasyMeister wrote:
> 100 years ago they'd have all been down the pits, 40 years ago
> they'd have been running around with woggles and helping little
> old ladies across the road for badges.

hmm...40 years ago...1967...hm, wasn´t that when youth crime in the UK (particularly around Liverpool) rose to extreme levels? They blamed it partly on music causing ´deviant´ behavour then.

1960s Mods and Rockers, fighting in the streets, 1970s Clockwork Orange and other sources are used for excuses for youth violence. etc.

These days it seems to be drugs and material gain (I blame early madonna for that one) They´d probably end up stealing the Wii´s anyway...
Fri 03/08/07 at 15:32
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"Copyright: FM Inc."
Posts: 10,338
When I was a kid we always had something to do. Skateboards had just arrived from America, we'd play cricket in the local fields, we'd go around knocking on doors asking if anyone wanted their car washed for 50p, and if we were desperate we'd polish our choppers (that's a type of bike).

If there were more sport in the school curriculum maybe kids would spend their spare time playing tennis, cricket or footie because they'll have had a chance to learn to enjoy it. Maybe the council should fund 'free entry for under 18s' between 4pm and 9pm at local swimming pools each evening. They'd make up for the lost takings by what they save in reduced crime.

Consoles, even Wii, aren't exactly encouraging social behaviour; in the Wii's case it's offering multiplayer games that you could probably just as well play in the back garden with your mates rather than lounging about in the front room and waving bits of plastic at the TV.

100 years ago they'd have all been down the pits, 40 years ago they'd have been running around with woggles and helping little old ladies across the road for badges.

The main excuse for teenagers being out on the street today is "There's nowhere else to go." If you're in a major town or city there are probably a couple of hundred places to go if they'd just pull their fingers out and looked around.

Countryside is a bit different, you'll see herds of teenagers sitting around local village war memorials each evening because there is literally nothing else to do other than skateboarding, playing cricket, washing tractors and polishing.
Fri 03/08/07 at 10:55
Regular
"AkaSeraphim"
Posts: 9,397
Computer games are being used to cut crime on Grimsby's estates.

Nintendo Wii units have been taken to youth clubs at night to engage with children and prevent anti-social behaviour in the area.



The wireless video game consoles allow players to control the game using physical gestures through sensors, making it ideal for sports programmes.

For the last three months, children at sites including the Nunsthorpe and West Marsh community centres have been playing the games to keep them off the streets.

The idea came about after Tony Burman, a senior warden with the North East Lincolnshire Safer Communities Neighbourhood Safety Scheme (NSS), played on his son Rob's console at Christmas.

Rob (26), a former Grimsby Telegraph reporter, was reviewing the Wii for the games console magazine he worked for.

Mr Burman (52), who runs education and youth projects in North East Lincolnshire, said: "We bought the Wii units to reduce criminal damage on the estates.

"A lot of youth centres are not there anymore and you have got to offer them something that will draw them in and say 'Come down here'.

"I have to give huge credit to the Neighbourhood Safety Scheme. It took a gamble and it has paid off. It is money well spent.

"We were the first ones to do and it will now hopefully snowball to the other councils across the country."

The Wii has also been taken into schools, including Whitgift and Immingham, as a reward for good behaviour, taking exams and as part of the Healthy Schools scheme.

Mr Burman said: "The exercise they get from the sports programs is brilliant and the children love it.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Do you think this really can work keep kids of the streets?
How long before it becomes yesterdays thing?

Surely such thing can only keep them entertained for so long. When i got mine i was on it constantly. Ok so i dont prefer to go cause havoc on the streets, however id rather be out and about doing my own thing, rather then stuck inside playing on the Wii.

Surely young kids will get bored of it and still be back on the streets causing havoc.

What really would keep the kids off the streets?

Is there anything? You can introduce so many things, but kids get bored very easily.

Some might even say that kids will soon get bored of causing havoc. Is that true?

FOr instance when i was in year 7 in school i knew a few people who would just love go out giving others grief, stealing from shops. Also stealing cars, bulling giving people abuse. You think to yourself one day they will grow up. Wrong!!

He is now in prison doing time for all sorts. As are a few others i know.

Some people are easily pleased, so having the Nintendo Wii about may work for some. For others it just might be Fun while it lasts.

What are your views?

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