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With all the hype about the HDD and the future possibilities of online gaming,we all wonder if it is all going to take off and whether it is going to work as Sony intend it to.
Unsurprisingly, people were a bit sceptical about Internet gaming when the Dreamcast came out. People wondered if it was going to challenge PC for the Internet gaming crown. It was a bit ambitious of Sega to try and get people to play games online on their new machine rather than on the PC.
But there was nothing wrong with online play on the Dreamcast. It worked, it ran considerably smoothly for a console and with games like Phantasy Star and Chu Chu Rocket it was proving to be FUN.
But there was a problem. First one was the cost.Many people could not afford the cost after splashing out on the console itself, games and accessories etc.People also did not fancy paying for playing online AS WELL as their normal Internet connection and other costs.
The second problem was that people did not find playing games online using a Dreamcast as appealing as using a PC. So for example, many people decided that playing Q3 on the PC was better than on the DC.The were more options, more people online and loads of other factors like being able to download patches and so on.
Unfortunately the Dreamcast sales never took off, more people decided to buy a Playstation or wait for a PS2. Dreamcast wasnt able to establish regular sales unlike the PSone, even after the Sony console started showing signs of old age.And when the PS2 appeared on the horizon, people have turned their sights onto the Black Box.Dreamcast never really took away any attention that Sony got with their machines and even the price drop to attract more customers failed to make any big impact on the sales chart.
And now with the PS2's online plans being announced, people begin to wonder if the PS2 will follow the same path as the Dreamcast took so naively.But Sony always learn from other peoples mistakes, providing that they dont make too many of their own. They decided to make the experience of online gaming more fun and user-friendly. They also thought about browsing the net, when they recently introduced the Network Adapter for the machine.
And another plus point of PS2's online prospects is that the connection is going to be Broadband. As many of you know, Broadband pushes data down multiple paths simultaneosly, thus making browsing the net much quicker and efficient. For example downloading a webpage with a Narrowband connection would take 14 seconds, and only 1.6 seconds with a Broadband one.
But again, will people decide to spend their hard-earned cash on the Hard Disc Drive, several other accessories needed for online play and browsing the Web, cost of the connection etc. Especially after spending a hefty fee for the console and games. I believe that online gaming on a PS2 is not going to be huge until a few years time when companies will have the courage to develop games for online play. Many developers are not too sure if they should risk it and make some games that would be playable online. It is not very easy to do something like that and many developersn regard the topic quitre wearily.There are loads of things to consider when making a game like that. Apart from actually designing the levels , modes and mechanics, they will have to think of slowdown, connections, servers etc.So many are waiting for other companies to bring out games that will be the first online experiences for many. "Lets wait and see if everyone else manages it" is their favourite phrase at the moment.
And that brings me to my point. Will people actually bother? I will, but only if I am sure that its going to be good, there are no problems or slowdown in games and that its actually worth it. I am not going to to spend £300+ for something that might be forgotten in couple of months time.I certainly hope that it will make an impact on the PS2 future, but I am not to sure if it is THE future of the beloved black box. I think it is too early to judge the Online play while Sony are still thinking everything through...
Anyway I hope I didnt bore you lot and I hope I expressed myself clearly. So could you please reply and let me know what everyone thinks.
Have a nice day!!!!!!!
Unsurprisingly, people were a bit sceptical about Internet gaming when the Dreamcast came out. People wondered if it was going to challenge PC for the Internet gaming crown. It was a bit ambitious of Sega to try and get people to play games online on their new machine rather than on the PC.
But there was nothing wrong with online play on the Dreamcast. It worked, it ran considerably smoothly for a console and with games like Phantasy Star and Chu Chu Rocket it was proving to be FUN.
But there was a problem. First one was the cost.Many people could not afford the cost after splashing out on the console itself, games and accessories etc.People also did not fancy paying for playing online AS WELL as their normal Internet connection and other costs.
The second problem was that people did not find playing games online using a Dreamcast as appealing as using a PC. So for example, many people decided that playing Q3 on the PC was better than on the DC.The were more options, more people online and loads of other factors like being able to download patches and so on.
Unfortunately the Dreamcast sales never took off, more people decided to buy a Playstation or wait for a PS2. Dreamcast wasnt able to establish regular sales unlike the PSone, even after the Sony console started showing signs of old age.And when the PS2 appeared on the horizon, people have turned their sights onto the Black Box.Dreamcast never really took away any attention that Sony got with their machines and even the price drop to attract more customers failed to make any big impact on the sales chart.
And now with the PS2's online plans being announced, people begin to wonder if the PS2 will follow the same path as the Dreamcast took so naively.But Sony always learn from other peoples mistakes, providing that they dont make too many of their own. They decided to make the experience of online gaming more fun and user-friendly. They also thought about browsing the net, when they recently introduced the Network Adapter for the machine.
And another plus point of PS2's online prospects is that the connection is going to be Broadband. As many of you know, Broadband pushes data down multiple paths simultaneosly, thus making browsing the net much quicker and efficient. For example downloading a webpage with a Narrowband connection would take 14 seconds, and only 1.6 seconds with a Broadband one.
But again, will people decide to spend their hard-earned cash on the Hard Disc Drive, several other accessories needed for online play and browsing the Web, cost of the connection etc. Especially after spending a hefty fee for the console and games. I believe that online gaming on a PS2 is not going to be huge until a few years time when companies will have the courage to develop games for online play. Many developers are not too sure if they should risk it and make some games that would be playable online. It is not very easy to do something like that and many developersn regard the topic quitre wearily.There are loads of things to consider when making a game like that. Apart from actually designing the levels , modes and mechanics, they will have to think of slowdown, connections, servers etc.So many are waiting for other companies to bring out games that will be the first online experiences for many. "Lets wait and see if everyone else manages it" is their favourite phrase at the moment.
And that brings me to my point. Will people actually bother? I will, but only if I am sure that its going to be good, there are no problems or slowdown in games and that its actually worth it. I am not going to to spend £300+ for something that might be forgotten in couple of months time.I certainly hope that it will make an impact on the PS2 future, but I am not to sure if it is THE future of the beloved black box. I think it is too early to judge the Online play while Sony are still thinking everything through...
Anyway I hope I didnt bore you lot and I hope I expressed myself clearly. So could you please reply and let me know what everyone thinks.
Have a nice day!!!!!!!
online gaming on the PC is the best you don't need broadband tho some ppl do.
Take example from Tactical ops hmmm CS.
Take example from Tactical ops hmmm CS.
Or†ega wrote:
> Thing about Broadband though...The coverage in the UK is very poor. We are
> behind the rest of the world, and the price isnt exactly great.
I personally
> dont feel online gaming is gonna take off in this generation of consoles.
This is too true, I think that if btopenworld lowered the price of adsl to a more reasonable amount then we could see a start of broadband being more common, which means much better multi.
> Thing about Broadband though...The coverage in the UK is very poor. We are
> behind the rest of the world, and the price isnt exactly great.
I personally
> dont feel online gaming is gonna take off in this generation of consoles.
This is too true, I think that if btopenworld lowered the price of adsl to a more reasonable amount then we could see a start of broadband being more common, which means much better multi.
Triple_H wrote:
> Sorry Sonic but I have written this topic long before I posted it...So I guess
> its a coincidence.....
DOH! Hate it when things like this happen! I did something similar at the beginning of the month!
Sonic
> Sorry Sonic but I have written this topic long before I posted it...So I guess
> its a coincidence.....
DOH! Hate it when things like this happen! I did something similar at the beginning of the month!
Sonic
Sorry Sonic but I have written this topic long before I posted it...So I guess its a coincidence.....
Thing about Broadband though...The coverage in the UK is very poor. We are behind the rest of the world, and the price isnt exactly great.
I personally dont feel online gaming is gonna take off in this generation of consoles.
I personally dont feel online gaming is gonna take off in this generation of consoles.
Triple_H, this is almost identical to my topic about "The return of add ons!". The basis of both topics is about the price of getting online, and whether people will bother.
The only difference is that you have a paragraph about the Dreamcast's online shortcomings.
So, explain why this topic suddenly appears on the same forum as my topic, talking about exactly the same issue, with exactly the same slant on the argument, 8 hours after I write my topic on the same day?!?!?
Sonic
The only difference is that you have a paragraph about the Dreamcast's online shortcomings.
So, explain why this topic suddenly appears on the same forum as my topic, talking about exactly the same issue, with exactly the same slant on the argument, 8 hours after I write my topic on the same day?!?!?
Sonic
Vai wrote:
> On the subject of online gaming, it annoys me being stuck on a 56k dialup, and
> how it is almost impossible to play any sort of game online, like you say even
> loading a webpage on dialup takes around 15 seconds, playing games puts huge
> stresses on the connection and this gets very annoying when you are getting 10
> second slow downs and disconnects which can completely ruin games and be the
> cause of many deaths.
Although if the game coders put in a bit of extra work
> and tried to work around the problems I am sure that they could lower the amount
> of infomation that is sent and could speed up the games for dialup users (red
> faction is almost playable and has only some lag).
Indeed i know your frustration, while i was trying to play Unreal tournament on a 56K dialup i was killed, and then killed, and killed some more, do you see the pattern?
> On the subject of online gaming, it annoys me being stuck on a 56k dialup, and
> how it is almost impossible to play any sort of game online, like you say even
> loading a webpage on dialup takes around 15 seconds, playing games puts huge
> stresses on the connection and this gets very annoying when you are getting 10
> second slow downs and disconnects which can completely ruin games and be the
> cause of many deaths.
Although if the game coders put in a bit of extra work
> and tried to work around the problems I am sure that they could lower the amount
> of infomation that is sent and could speed up the games for dialup users (red
> faction is almost playable and has only some lag).
Indeed i know your frustration, while i was trying to play Unreal tournament on a 56K dialup i was killed, and then killed, and killed some more, do you see the pattern?
On the subject of online gaming, it annoys me being stuck on a 56k dialup, and how it is almost impossible to play any sort of game online, like you say even loading a webpage on dialup takes around 15 seconds, playing games puts huge stresses on the connection and this gets very annoying when you are getting 10 second slow downs and disconnects which can completely ruin games and be the cause of many deaths.
Although if the game coders put in a bit of extra work and tried to work around the problems I am sure that they could lower the amount of infomation that is sent and could speed up the games for dialup users (red faction is almost playable and has only some lag).
Although if the game coders put in a bit of extra work and tried to work around the problems I am sure that they could lower the amount of infomation that is sent and could speed up the games for dialup users (red faction is almost playable and has only some lag).
With all the hype about the HDD and the future possibilities of online gaming,we all wonder if it is all going to take off and whether it is going to work as Sony intend it to.
Unsurprisingly, people were a bit sceptical about Internet gaming when the Dreamcast came out. People wondered if it was going to challenge PC for the Internet gaming crown. It was a bit ambitious of Sega to try and get people to play games online on their new machine rather than on the PC.
But there was nothing wrong with online play on the Dreamcast. It worked, it ran considerably smoothly for a console and with games like Phantasy Star and Chu Chu Rocket it was proving to be FUN.
But there was a problem. First one was the cost.Many people could not afford the cost after splashing out on the console itself, games and accessories etc.People also did not fancy paying for playing online AS WELL as their normal Internet connection and other costs.
The second problem was that people did not find playing games online using a Dreamcast as appealing as using a PC. So for example, many people decided that playing Q3 on the PC was better than on the DC.The were more options, more people online and loads of other factors like being able to download patches and so on.
Unfortunately the Dreamcast sales never took off, more people decided to buy a Playstation or wait for a PS2. Dreamcast wasnt able to establish regular sales unlike the PSone, even after the Sony console started showing signs of old age.And when the PS2 appeared on the horizon, people have turned their sights onto the Black Box.Dreamcast never really took away any attention that Sony got with their machines and even the price drop to attract more customers failed to make any big impact on the sales chart.
And now with the PS2's online plans being announced, people begin to wonder if the PS2 will follow the same path as the Dreamcast took so naively.But Sony always learn from other peoples mistakes, providing that they dont make too many of their own. They decided to make the experience of online gaming more fun and user-friendly. They also thought about browsing the net, when they recently introduced the Network Adapter for the machine.
And another plus point of PS2's online prospects is that the connection is going to be Broadband. As many of you know, Broadband pushes data down multiple paths simultaneosly, thus making browsing the net much quicker and efficient. For example downloading a webpage with a Narrowband connection would take 14 seconds, and only 1.6 seconds with a Broadband one.
But again, will people decide to spend their hard-earned cash on the Hard Disc Drive, several other accessories needed for online play and browsing the Web, cost of the connection etc. Especially after spending a hefty fee for the console and games. I believe that online gaming on a PS2 is not going to be huge until a few years time when companies will have the courage to develop games for online play. Many developers are not too sure if they should risk it and make some games that would be playable online. It is not very easy to do something like that and many developersn regard the topic quitre wearily.There are loads of things to consider when making a game like that. Apart from actually designing the levels , modes and mechanics, they will have to think of slowdown, connections, servers etc.So many are waiting for other companies to bring out games that will be the first online experiences for many. "Lets wait and see if everyone else manages it" is their favourite phrase at the moment.
And that brings me to my point. Will people actually bother? I will, but only if I am sure that its going to be good, there are no problems or slowdown in games and that its actually worth it. I am not going to to spend £300+ for something that might be forgotten in couple of months time.I certainly hope that it will make an impact on the PS2 future, but I am not to sure if it is THE future of the beloved black box. I think it is too early to judge the Online play while Sony are still thinking everything through...
Anyway I hope I didnt bore you lot and I hope I expressed myself clearly. So could you please reply and let me know what everyone thinks.
Have a nice day!!!!!!!
Unsurprisingly, people were a bit sceptical about Internet gaming when the Dreamcast came out. People wondered if it was going to challenge PC for the Internet gaming crown. It was a bit ambitious of Sega to try and get people to play games online on their new machine rather than on the PC.
But there was nothing wrong with online play on the Dreamcast. It worked, it ran considerably smoothly for a console and with games like Phantasy Star and Chu Chu Rocket it was proving to be FUN.
But there was a problem. First one was the cost.Many people could not afford the cost after splashing out on the console itself, games and accessories etc.People also did not fancy paying for playing online AS WELL as their normal Internet connection and other costs.
The second problem was that people did not find playing games online using a Dreamcast as appealing as using a PC. So for example, many people decided that playing Q3 on the PC was better than on the DC.The were more options, more people online and loads of other factors like being able to download patches and so on.
Unfortunately the Dreamcast sales never took off, more people decided to buy a Playstation or wait for a PS2. Dreamcast wasnt able to establish regular sales unlike the PSone, even after the Sony console started showing signs of old age.And when the PS2 appeared on the horizon, people have turned their sights onto the Black Box.Dreamcast never really took away any attention that Sony got with their machines and even the price drop to attract more customers failed to make any big impact on the sales chart.
And now with the PS2's online plans being announced, people begin to wonder if the PS2 will follow the same path as the Dreamcast took so naively.But Sony always learn from other peoples mistakes, providing that they dont make too many of their own. They decided to make the experience of online gaming more fun and user-friendly. They also thought about browsing the net, when they recently introduced the Network Adapter for the machine.
And another plus point of PS2's online prospects is that the connection is going to be Broadband. As many of you know, Broadband pushes data down multiple paths simultaneosly, thus making browsing the net much quicker and efficient. For example downloading a webpage with a Narrowband connection would take 14 seconds, and only 1.6 seconds with a Broadband one.
But again, will people decide to spend their hard-earned cash on the Hard Disc Drive, several other accessories needed for online play and browsing the Web, cost of the connection etc. Especially after spending a hefty fee for the console and games. I believe that online gaming on a PS2 is not going to be huge until a few years time when companies will have the courage to develop games for online play. Many developers are not too sure if they should risk it and make some games that would be playable online. It is not very easy to do something like that and many developersn regard the topic quitre wearily.There are loads of things to consider when making a game like that. Apart from actually designing the levels , modes and mechanics, they will have to think of slowdown, connections, servers etc.So many are waiting for other companies to bring out games that will be the first online experiences for many. "Lets wait and see if everyone else manages it" is their favourite phrase at the moment.
And that brings me to my point. Will people actually bother? I will, but only if I am sure that its going to be good, there are no problems or slowdown in games and that its actually worth it. I am not going to to spend £300+ for something that might be forgotten in couple of months time.I certainly hope that it will make an impact on the PS2 future, but I am not to sure if it is THE future of the beloved black box. I think it is too early to judge the Online play while Sony are still thinking everything through...
Anyway I hope I didnt bore you lot and I hope I expressed myself clearly. So could you please reply and let me know what everyone thinks.
Have a nice day!!!!!!!