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Fri 18/01/02 at 16:23
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The Lord of the Rings was the biggest earning film of 2001, even beating Harry Potter. And we all know that during 2001, there were also a few updates of films, namely Planet of the Apes. I saw almost all of the films released for the summer holidays, being the money-spending and easy-to-bore person that I am. In particular, I like Planet of the Apes, which although a strange thing, spurred me on to wanting the DVD.

The new version of Planet of the Apes is not out on DVD yet. However, I did not know this when I went shopping a few weeks ago. In Electronics Boutique I saw a DVD entitled 'Planet of the Apes'. This was a new addition to their DVD stand, and presuming it was the updated version, I bought it. However, getting home it took me the whole of 2 seconds to realise I had bought the better, but technically worse forebear. This annoyed me, and I promptly returned the DVD for my refund. The reason? A ruthless con by the company. I knew that this DVD was not on the stand before; I generally browse there most times I'm in town. This time though, it had its own seperate shelf, with more than a dozen copies. Just looking at the back of the DVD I couldn't tell that it was the older version, and any casual buyer would think that it is the new, cinema version. Its just a money scandal to get people to buy the blasted thing.

And now I'm seeing it again. Big stalls with the animated version of Lord of the Rings, riding on the success at the box office. A dumb-minded or generally careless punter could think that this is the real thing, and even if not the DVD is selling very well. I find it disturbing that shops will sell other products to ride on the success of other things. Like Digimon and Pokemon. Pokemon came long before Digimon, and the only real reason Digimon was successful is because of Pokemon.

I know anyone with a careful eye would notice these things, but sometimes people can be dumb (ie. when buying an Army Men game), and big corporations shouldn't con people out of their money. I know this is their big web site and all, but on www.ukdvd.com, on the right hand banner that usually depicts new releases, there is the Final Fantasy DVD, the Rush Hour 2 DVD and the animated Lord of the Rings. I know that this is a marketing manoeuvre to get people to buy it, and while really just being a ruthless con, people do fall for it. I'm not meaning to knock Special Reserve, because it is a clever move, I'm just talking about companies in general.

But, in the real world it is dog eat dog, only the tough survive, and money is the source of every problem. Until the consumer learns about how companies are literally stealing the money from their pocket, this will continue and more and more people will be conned.
Sun 20/01/02 at 19:54
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It's what happens - people enjoy the new version so decide they'll try out the original, maybe see the story from a different perspective etc. I definetly wouldn't put it down to evil corporate pigs. Yes, sales will be higher due to the tie-in, but so? That's what businesses are out to do, make cash.
Sun 20/01/02 at 17:51
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½pint wrote:
> Okay, so i guess I was a bit stupid to buy the old Planet of the Apes DVD, but
> this is more about the fact that they bring out old, far beyond death DVDs which
> sell loads because of the recent success of the other film.

It depends, again you are basically saying that because some people do not like a release then everyone should be denied it. Top Gun, Navy Seals, Transformers, Ghostbusters, Babylon 5, GI JOE - all these are mine, and others, favourite DVDs, as well as other modern titles obviously. Many wouldn't even look at these let alone buy them ! I enjoy them though so why should what I want to watch not be released ? I thought Gone in 60 seconds, Traffic and Epsiode 1 were rubbish, but I'd never want them not to be sold. Some fans of the original planet of the apes thought the new film was rubbish, so maybe the new film shouldnt be brought out eh ? A film, game, music or whatever is entitled to a release as long as its content is legal and the creator is willing to release it, any society which restricts what it can potentially buy for any other reason is a worrying one - let people choose for themselves what they want to own.
Sun 20/01/02 at 17:30
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Okay, so i guess I was a bit stupid to buy the old Planet of the Apes DVD, but this is more about the fact that they bring out old, far beyond death DVDs which sell loads because of the recent success of the other film.
Sun 20/01/02 at 16:53
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So it is the corporations fault that people cannot be bothered to read the packaging or find out what they are actually buying ? The Planet Of The Apes packaging is soooo obviously not the same as the kind used to promote the film, its even by a different director and has different cast credits ! As for Lord Of The Rings...well anyone with common sense knows that it is not available officially to buy anywhere yet ! With digimon/pokemon its about choice, loads of people like both ! Should it be up to someone that Pokemon has no challenger ? Now that'd be ruthless... Army Men is bad, to me and many others, but the games are cheap and some kids do like the games, again why should someone decide that something should not be released based on their preference for it ? People have a choice as to what to buy and it is no persons right ot go making decisions about what people can potentially buy, within reason of course, but you can't just say "no one can release this film and if people buy it they are being ripped off" simply because you do not like it !
Sun 20/01/02 at 16:40
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Oh come on! If you're thick enough to buy the wrong version of the film that's your fault, stop bloody whining. For goodness sake, the animated Lord of the Rings DVD has a big cartoon picture of Gandalf on the front - you'd have to be pretty hard of thinking.
Sun 20/01/02 at 12:37
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just make sure you're not on the recieving end of that con...
Fri 18/01/02 at 16:23
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The Lord of the Rings was the biggest earning film of 2001, even beating Harry Potter. And we all know that during 2001, there were also a few updates of films, namely Planet of the Apes. I saw almost all of the films released for the summer holidays, being the money-spending and easy-to-bore person that I am. In particular, I like Planet of the Apes, which although a strange thing, spurred me on to wanting the DVD.

The new version of Planet of the Apes is not out on DVD yet. However, I did not know this when I went shopping a few weeks ago. In Electronics Boutique I saw a DVD entitled 'Planet of the Apes'. This was a new addition to their DVD stand, and presuming it was the updated version, I bought it. However, getting home it took me the whole of 2 seconds to realise I had bought the better, but technically worse forebear. This annoyed me, and I promptly returned the DVD for my refund. The reason? A ruthless con by the company. I knew that this DVD was not on the stand before; I generally browse there most times I'm in town. This time though, it had its own seperate shelf, with more than a dozen copies. Just looking at the back of the DVD I couldn't tell that it was the older version, and any casual buyer would think that it is the new, cinema version. Its just a money scandal to get people to buy the blasted thing.

And now I'm seeing it again. Big stalls with the animated version of Lord of the Rings, riding on the success at the box office. A dumb-minded or generally careless punter could think that this is the real thing, and even if not the DVD is selling very well. I find it disturbing that shops will sell other products to ride on the success of other things. Like Digimon and Pokemon. Pokemon came long before Digimon, and the only real reason Digimon was successful is because of Pokemon.

I know anyone with a careful eye would notice these things, but sometimes people can be dumb (ie. when buying an Army Men game), and big corporations shouldn't con people out of their money. I know this is their big web site and all, but on www.ukdvd.com, on the right hand banner that usually depicts new releases, there is the Final Fantasy DVD, the Rush Hour 2 DVD and the animated Lord of the Rings. I know that this is a marketing manoeuvre to get people to buy it, and while really just being a ruthless con, people do fall for it. I'm not meaning to knock Special Reserve, because it is a clever move, I'm just talking about companies in general.

But, in the real world it is dog eat dog, only the tough survive, and money is the source of every problem. Until the consumer learns about how companies are literally stealing the money from their pocket, this will continue and more and more people will be conned.

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