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Fri 18/01/02 at 09:27
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Part1: The Jump

Hello, and welcome to what I hope to make a regular feature on these forums, "Defining moments in 20th Century cinema".

I'll start today with one moment that I believe changed movies dramatically, and it came from the 1980's....

Patrick Swayze jumping from the stage in Dirty Dancing.

The use of slow motion for this shot is simply stunning. Patrick takes off with style and grace, and performs perhaps the greatest jump ever seen in a movie. The landing is perfect, as is his hair.

The fact that this superb scene also takes place during a 'dance-off' just adds to it's importance.

Had this scene not have featured in 'Dirty Dancing' then I doubt we would have seen such visual delights in movies like 'The Matrix'.

So here's to 'Dirty Dancing' and to Patrick Swayze, for had he not have made that jump, we would not have the same quality of movies as we do today.

Join me again next week, when I shall be looking at the first time an old man insisted that all the youngsters were 'doomed' in a horror movie.
Sat 19/01/02 at 12:56
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I know this a serious reply, but I love the shots in Clockwork Orange where the camera starts focused on someone, or something fairly innocuous and then pans backwards and as the shot becomes wider you see surreal things going on in the foreground.

That's not explained it very well, but anyone who's seen the film will know what I mean.

On a side note, THE defining moment of 20th century cinema would have to be the jump in "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" where, completely unaided by such flippantries as ropes, the actors glide from rooftop to rooftop, up walls and down mountains, effortlessly. I've been practising and I hope to be able to jump on to my neighbour's roof after a few weeks of intense training. The technique used, which you can see if you play the DVD in super-slow frame by frame motion, is to feverishly pedal your feet in infinitessimally (spelt wrong) small movements, thereby leaping off each air molecule individually.

I wonder why those actors don't enter for the long-jump, high-jump or triple jump. They would set new world records all over the shop. Unless Keanu Reeves entered and manipulated the Matrix to let him jump further...
Sat 19/01/02 at 08:32
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Though inspiration can come without you realising where it's from.

You might have seen someting in a movie long ago, and forgotten about it, only when you come up with an idea yourself, you may not consciously be inspired by someone elses work?

I don't know where the hell half of my ideas come from!
Fri 18/01/02 at 12:04
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Nice Meka. :0)

On a serious note to the replies... I really hate people that take their "inspiration" from visual things. In the stories, I copy stuff all the time for a laugh, but people that actually make a living out of basically copying the good ideas of other people, and just slightly improving them... that's not nice.

True inspiration comes from experience, and not usually from creative works. Music I find really good for inspiration, and that's as far as I'll go for creativeness...

You know the robots in Episode One? They look incredibly like a scuplture that a famous artist once did... I'll have to dig up the name for you to see.
Fri 18/01/02 at 10:05
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Small Frog wrote:

I wouldn't know - I've
> only read the book. Is the film worth seeing?

You either love it or you hate i guess.But as a film experience, everyone should see it at least once.
Fri 18/01/02 at 10:03
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Totoro wrote:
> 2001:A Space Odyssey probably had better special effects and that was made in
> 1968, a full 9 years before Star Wars. (Don't get me wrong though, Star Wars is
> my favorite film.)

I wouldn't know - I've only read the book. Is the film worth seeing?
Fri 18/01/02 at 10:02
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Small Frog wrote:
> Do you mind if I inquire as to whether or not this thread will ever mention Walt
> Disney and his abominations?

Possibly, I've yet to decide on the rest of the content....
Fri 18/01/02 at 10:01
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2001:A Space Odyssey probably had better special effects and that was made in 1968, a full 9 years before Star Wars. (Don't get me wrong though, Star Wars is my favorite film.)
Fri 18/01/02 at 09:50
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Totoro wrote:
> But without the Akira Kurosawa film 'The Hidden Fortress' as inspiration there
> may may not have been a Star Wars.

This is true - every director or film writer will have influences, but I was praising Star Wars because of the superb special effects, rather than the cliched fairy-tale storyline of a princess and her hero.
Fri 18/01/02 at 09:46
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But without the Akira Kurosawa film 'The Hidden Fortress' as inspiration there may may not have been a Star Wars.
Fri 18/01/02 at 09:44
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Do you mind if I inquire as to whether or not this thread will ever mention Walt Disney and his abominations?

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