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Wed 12/02/03 at 11:03
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Video games have always enjoyed courting controversy. In the past we’ve had Doom being blamed for high school massacres, Mortal Kombat with it’s OTT blood and gore, Grand Theft Auto with it’s amoral gameplay attitude, and more recently The Getaway hitting the tabloids with it’s violence, swearing and skanked up gameplay.
Those, and many other games like them down the years, have been controversial due to their high levels of mindless violence and blasé attitudes towards guns, but recently, as seen in BMX XXX, Vice City and The Getaway, sex, the ultimate taboo, is also pushing its hot and sweaty face into the lair of games.

Nowadays, sex is everywhere; you watch the news and see Kylie Minogue promoting lingerie, you watch Top of the Pops and see a couple of girls pretending to be lesbians to sell records, and you see adverts were women garner sexual pleasure from washing their hair with a herbal essence shampoo, soaps where all the characters want to do is get it on with each other, and the less said about Channel 5 the better. As the old saying goes, “sex sells”, but will that one day apply to video games?

The issue of sex in games is not really a new one, as there have been many crude games in the past aimed at the Dirty Mac Brigade, but games these days have a higher level of sophistication and interactivity, with lifelike visuals to recreate the human body. Games no longer have the poorly animated pixely people of yesteryear, they have highly accurate forms, and so can be exploited in a much more realistic way.
Do you think Tomb Raider sold by the bucket load because it was a good game? Of course not, it sold because the heroine had overly large baps, tight shorts and made a funny noise when she used a health pick-up.
BMX XXX is one of the most controversial games of recent years, mainly due to it’s main selling point being sex, strippers and titillation, it never had any great gaming intentions other than being sexploitation gaming. People were up in arms about the game, and even I a liberal mind, thought that Acclaim had taken a step too far in this sordid subject. It was a cynical attempt to use sex to sell a videogame, but all the controversy gained free publicity for the game, and allowed it to gain a reputation, even though the actual game itself apparently sucked. It’s surprising that it was ever released, unlike the infamous Thrill Kill, which never saw the light of day thanks to EA.
Dead or Alive: Extreme Beach Volleyball has girls acting provocatively wearing next to nothing. Is it appealing to gamers or pervs? (well I claimed it as a GAD so we’ll skate over that question…I like volleyball games so what?….stop looking at me like that…OK, I admit it, I’m a big perv.)
I’ve got a feeling that DoA Volleyball will be a big seller…because of it’s gameplay or because of the female characters? Because of the women of course, remember sex sells.

Games are aimed primarily at young men aged 16/18 and over and is always rising, so it’s no wonder that more and more games will feature sex in the future to capitalise on these poor maladjusted people.
Compared to film and TV, video games are a lot more immature, with gamers giggling like schoolgirls about nudity in BMX XXX or bounding boobs in DoA, and generally not being very astute when it comes to games with sexual themes. Whether the industry ever matures is down to the developers, and how they wish to portray adult subject matters.
Sex has its place; I don’t want it forcing itself into the often childish games industry and being merely used in silly ways to sell sensationalist games to sweaty punters and incurring the wrath of outraged tabloids and giving games a bad name again.
Until the industry does mature, I don’t think sex has a place in the industry just yet, but some developers will carry on with it regardless, cynically using it to sell games.

We seem to have grown up with high levels of violence in our games, so are we ready for crude sex-filled games in the future, and more to the point, do we really want or need games with sexual references and innuendo?
Mon 03/03/03 at 21:49
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this is all very well but seriously try to think of how anyone could legitimately add sexual orientated themes to our games......
you can't, all your left with is a quick fumble for no apparent reason and more importantly no legitimate reason other than to sensationalise games in order to thicken the profit margin. sex may well sell but any real reliance on it would only mean worse and more shallow gameplay and can't that only be a bad thing???
Sat 15/02/03 at 15:28
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Just want to add.
A large portion of the gaming public is over 21.....Mature enough to see anything and not be mentally disturbed etc etc.
Just keep the kids away from it.
Sat 15/02/03 at 15:26
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I'm an adult.
I'd like more sex please.
Used properly within a well worked plot it could add an extra dimension to gaming.
If you don't like it don't buy it.
Thu 13/02/03 at 12:54
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"Back from the dead!"
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Why not have sex in games? It's no more controversial than violence, and it's not going to turn us all into perverts in the same way that violent games diddn't turn us all into homocidal maniacs.

The only difference is that the british are too stuck up to allow sex in games because sex is still very taboo unlike violence, which wasn't argued when it was a key part to cartoons, and what kind of message is that? Every time the cartoon character gets smacked with a spade, they walk away.

People nowadays who have been brought up in a world of violence are adjusted to it. Perhaps for some, violence in games is a way to vent anger that otherwise would be let out as violence to others. What if sex is the same, and people brought up on games of a sexual content are adjusted to it, and are less likely to commit sex offences?
Thu 13/02/03 at 11:57
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Shadow Knight wrote:
> *falls asleep while reading*

*wakes Shadow Knight up with a car battery jump-start to the nipples*
Thu 13/02/03 at 04:19
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Heh, I personally think DoA volleyball is a great game :). But yes, stop sex in games, we don't need it, isn't there already enough porn in society already?!?
Thu 13/02/03 at 01:11
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Nice post there :D
Thu 13/02/03 at 00:34
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Shadow Knight wrote:
> *falls asleep while reading*

shut up

Good post mate

In my opinion people who blame todays sociatities problems on games are morons. People are violent and evil because the human race is violent an evil race, always has been and still is. Hitler, Jack the Ripper, Stalin, Vlad the Impaler, Margaret Thatcher, all blood thristy, sex-crazed maniacs, and did they play games no....this didnt have anything to do with you post but :P
Wed 12/02/03 at 22:26
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*falls asleep while reading*
Wed 12/02/03 at 11:03
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"Wants Spymate on dv"
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Video games have always enjoyed courting controversy. In the past we’ve had Doom being blamed for high school massacres, Mortal Kombat with it’s OTT blood and gore, Grand Theft Auto with it’s amoral gameplay attitude, and more recently The Getaway hitting the tabloids with it’s violence, swearing and skanked up gameplay.
Those, and many other games like them down the years, have been controversial due to their high levels of mindless violence and blasé attitudes towards guns, but recently, as seen in BMX XXX, Vice City and The Getaway, sex, the ultimate taboo, is also pushing its hot and sweaty face into the lair of games.

Nowadays, sex is everywhere; you watch the news and see Kylie Minogue promoting lingerie, you watch Top of the Pops and see a couple of girls pretending to be lesbians to sell records, and you see adverts were women garner sexual pleasure from washing their hair with a herbal essence shampoo, soaps where all the characters want to do is get it on with each other, and the less said about Channel 5 the better. As the old saying goes, “sex sells”, but will that one day apply to video games?

The issue of sex in games is not really a new one, as there have been many crude games in the past aimed at the Dirty Mac Brigade, but games these days have a higher level of sophistication and interactivity, with lifelike visuals to recreate the human body. Games no longer have the poorly animated pixely people of yesteryear, they have highly accurate forms, and so can be exploited in a much more realistic way.
Do you think Tomb Raider sold by the bucket load because it was a good game? Of course not, it sold because the heroine had overly large baps, tight shorts and made a funny noise when she used a health pick-up.
BMX XXX is one of the most controversial games of recent years, mainly due to it’s main selling point being sex, strippers and titillation, it never had any great gaming intentions other than being sexploitation gaming. People were up in arms about the game, and even I a liberal mind, thought that Acclaim had taken a step too far in this sordid subject. It was a cynical attempt to use sex to sell a videogame, but all the controversy gained free publicity for the game, and allowed it to gain a reputation, even though the actual game itself apparently sucked. It’s surprising that it was ever released, unlike the infamous Thrill Kill, which never saw the light of day thanks to EA.
Dead or Alive: Extreme Beach Volleyball has girls acting provocatively wearing next to nothing. Is it appealing to gamers or pervs? (well I claimed it as a GAD so we’ll skate over that question…I like volleyball games so what?….stop looking at me like that…OK, I admit it, I’m a big perv.)
I’ve got a feeling that DoA Volleyball will be a big seller…because of it’s gameplay or because of the female characters? Because of the women of course, remember sex sells.

Games are aimed primarily at young men aged 16/18 and over and is always rising, so it’s no wonder that more and more games will feature sex in the future to capitalise on these poor maladjusted people.
Compared to film and TV, video games are a lot more immature, with gamers giggling like schoolgirls about nudity in BMX XXX or bounding boobs in DoA, and generally not being very astute when it comes to games with sexual themes. Whether the industry ever matures is down to the developers, and how they wish to portray adult subject matters.
Sex has its place; I don’t want it forcing itself into the often childish games industry and being merely used in silly ways to sell sensationalist games to sweaty punters and incurring the wrath of outraged tabloids and giving games a bad name again.
Until the industry does mature, I don’t think sex has a place in the industry just yet, but some developers will carry on with it regardless, cynically using it to sell games.

We seem to have grown up with high levels of violence in our games, so are we ready for crude sex-filled games in the future, and more to the point, do we really want or need games with sexual references and innuendo?

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