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Thu 10/01/02 at 22:36
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Thought I'd bring this to your attention. Totally ludicrous. First of all you'll need to read the articles:

http://www.record-mail.co.uk/shtml/NEWS/P4S5.shtml
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/shtml/NEWS/P12S1.shtml

These articles were printed in the Daily Record yesterday and today respectively. Give them a read, you may find it humorous.

I think it represents the lowest of the low in terms of journalism. Write all you want about Posh and Becks, but that fiasco is dumbing the news down far more.

Anyway, for the first time ever I was pressed to write to a paper because of one of their articles. I've copied and pasted it below so you can read my views on the subject.

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Sit down, have I got a scoop for you. Knives are dangerous! Those innocent little things you use to aid you in eating your dinner can, in fact, be used as weapons in the wrong hands. Now, if you’re considering rushing off now as you've got a scoop to fill a few pages over the next few days, wait! Pillows, yes, pillows, can be dangerous too! In the wrong hands they can be used to smother someone - and they sell these things in shops to anyone. A leg of ham too - you think it's a tasty Sunday dinner? No - in the wrong hands it can be used to batter poor wee babies to death!

Sorry for filling the opening paragraph with totally tosh, but you seem to have a taste for printing this sort of rubbish. The MS Flight Simulator 2002 story (for that's what it is, a work of fantasy) has got to be the most blindly ignorant piece of journalism I've ever read. For a start it is based on a total logical and factual inaccuracy - in the wrong hands Flight Simulator isn't the slightest bit dangerous (well, you could maybe give someone a nasty paper cut with the manual start a small fire with the box... if you could get your hand on matches... wait! They're dangerous too in the wrong hands) - no, it's a plane in the wrong hands that’s dangerous. The leap from logical reality into fantasy that was required for that article would be beyond JRR Tolken. Now, I understand literary sales in the Fantasy genre have sky rocketed since the release of the film based on his work, but a newspaper really isn't the place for it.

However, I can see why that was printed - cheap way of filling two pages and creating a few shock headlines. Slow news day - got to fill the pages somehow. Today's monstrosity? You note that MS will have no problems with the Trade Descriptions under their reality claims, but if you dare to call that news you could be in difficulties. I'm sorry, but to me that seemed like a particularly unimaginative, dreary account of someone playing a video game. Oh, but if it had have been true. Well that makes up for it then - call your news desk, if the Independence Day is true we'd better evacuate the White House. Get on to your Show Biz desk; if my thoughts about Cameron Diaz were true she may be pregnant. Oh, and hold the back page, a young lad somewhere just imagined Livingston wining the SPL.

I don't know if you assume your readers to lack intellect or desire fantasy, but have you ever though of attempting some real journalism? You know, traditionally newspapers are filled with news - current affairs and the like. Usually they would inform you of the facts and the journalist in question may even (as is the natural expectation) give his or his papers views based on those facts. Usually they don't take leaps through the looking glass.

I find it hard to believe not only that someone could write that, but an editing team could then also see it as fit for printing. How many people did that involve? How many people needed to be so totally blind to the fact that there was not only nothing worth printing there, but a so-called Journalist trying to pass off a ludicrously one sided, ill thought piece of writing as an article one day, and then a dull description of him playing a computer game the next?

I'd be interested to here your views.

Adam Heyes
Sun 13/01/02 at 23:43
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I think they must have taken the articles down - I read on-line myself, didn't actually see the printed version (an annoyed Scottish friend did and sent me the links).

It was totally ludicrous, first day they basically tried to say that all terriorists would need to recreate Sept 11 was a copy of MS flight sim, second day was just a description of someone flyig over Scottland using MS Flight Sim. That was it, a two page spread was just a description of a vidoe game, except at the start he said "imagine if this was real, I could fly into the Forth Bridge and cause a disaster".

Yeah, great, and I could take Moldovia to the World Cup, doesn't mean they should start booking tickets for Japan.
Fri 11/01/02 at 16:26
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Posts: 14,117
Gonzo, I agree with you.

But had you ever thought they might have written those articles (which I can't get to work either) just so someone like yourself would go off on one?
Fri 11/01/02 at 16:26
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Posts: 754
Mr.Snuggly wrote:
> I cannae get the links to work, but I agree the whole hubbub about MS Flight Sim
> was ridiculous. It's like saying Tomb Raider encourages people to raid tombs.


I've never looked back since finding the Amulet of Kookabozwa in the depths of the abandoned Temple of Bob in deepest Africa.

Cheers Lara, you're an inspiriation to all of us...

Now I'm off to steal some police cars and run over pedestrians. Gotta love GTA3. Just don't tell the Daily Mail.
Fri 11/01/02 at 16:15
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Hey snuggly you've got another thread named after you!
Fri 11/01/02 at 16:01
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Posts: 6,592
I cannae get the links to work, but I agree the whole hubbub about MS Flight Sim was ridiculous. It's like saying Tomb Raider encourages people to raid tombs.
Thu 10/01/02 at 22:36
Regular
"Look!!! Changed!!!1"
Posts: 2,072
Thought I'd bring this to your attention. Totally ludicrous. First of all you'll need to read the articles:

http://www.record-mail.co.uk/shtml/NEWS/P4S5.shtml
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/shtml/NEWS/P12S1.shtml

These articles were printed in the Daily Record yesterday and today respectively. Give them a read, you may find it humorous.

I think it represents the lowest of the low in terms of journalism. Write all you want about Posh and Becks, but that fiasco is dumbing the news down far more.

Anyway, for the first time ever I was pressed to write to a paper because of one of their articles. I've copied and pasted it below so you can read my views on the subject.

-----------
Sit down, have I got a scoop for you. Knives are dangerous! Those innocent little things you use to aid you in eating your dinner can, in fact, be used as weapons in the wrong hands. Now, if you’re considering rushing off now as you've got a scoop to fill a few pages over the next few days, wait! Pillows, yes, pillows, can be dangerous too! In the wrong hands they can be used to smother someone - and they sell these things in shops to anyone. A leg of ham too - you think it's a tasty Sunday dinner? No - in the wrong hands it can be used to batter poor wee babies to death!

Sorry for filling the opening paragraph with totally tosh, but you seem to have a taste for printing this sort of rubbish. The MS Flight Simulator 2002 story (for that's what it is, a work of fantasy) has got to be the most blindly ignorant piece of journalism I've ever read. For a start it is based on a total logical and factual inaccuracy - in the wrong hands Flight Simulator isn't the slightest bit dangerous (well, you could maybe give someone a nasty paper cut with the manual start a small fire with the box... if you could get your hand on matches... wait! They're dangerous too in the wrong hands) - no, it's a plane in the wrong hands that’s dangerous. The leap from logical reality into fantasy that was required for that article would be beyond JRR Tolken. Now, I understand literary sales in the Fantasy genre have sky rocketed since the release of the film based on his work, but a newspaper really isn't the place for it.

However, I can see why that was printed - cheap way of filling two pages and creating a few shock headlines. Slow news day - got to fill the pages somehow. Today's monstrosity? You note that MS will have no problems with the Trade Descriptions under their reality claims, but if you dare to call that news you could be in difficulties. I'm sorry, but to me that seemed like a particularly unimaginative, dreary account of someone playing a video game. Oh, but if it had have been true. Well that makes up for it then - call your news desk, if the Independence Day is true we'd better evacuate the White House. Get on to your Show Biz desk; if my thoughts about Cameron Diaz were true she may be pregnant. Oh, and hold the back page, a young lad somewhere just imagined Livingston wining the SPL.

I don't know if you assume your readers to lack intellect or desire fantasy, but have you ever though of attempting some real journalism? You know, traditionally newspapers are filled with news - current affairs and the like. Usually they would inform you of the facts and the journalist in question may even (as is the natural expectation) give his or his papers views based on those facts. Usually they don't take leaps through the looking glass.

I find it hard to believe not only that someone could write that, but an editing team could then also see it as fit for printing. How many people did that involve? How many people needed to be so totally blind to the fact that there was not only nothing worth printing there, but a so-called Journalist trying to pass off a ludicrously one sided, ill thought piece of writing as an article one day, and then a dull description of him playing a computer game the next?

I'd be interested to here your views.

Adam Heyes

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