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True online football. Online team play. 11 human players a side - gaps piloted by bots if needs be. Pick a player and you stay with him, all the time, playing your part. Proper team play, no more advanced than Team Fortress or Counter Strike. Possible?
I was thinking this earlier whilst playing ISS98 on the N64, still class after all these years. The thing is, skills, point of view, manouvers would all have to be far more advanced to make it interesting. Some football games barely manage to be interesting controlling all 11 player with only tackle (easy/slide), pass, shoot, as options for each one. Imagine how boring it would be if when you eventually did get the ball as one man in an 11 a side team and those were your only options? There needs to be a greater depth to show off your skills, and make the waiting more bearable. Also, I think this would work 100 times better on LIVE with the headsets, as footie is all about communication.
Actually, it would be a great idea. The thing with most football games is that they are designed to allow one player to control a whole team. Plus, have you seen the way players you don't control sit and stare as a free ball slowly rolls past them and to the feet of an oposing player on Pro Evo 2? Now, if someone was to do that, you could scream abuse at them. Therein lies one problem already - idle players mucking the game up for everyone (especially goalies).
Is it really possible? What about lag etc? I believe football is way more complicated than a FPS shooter in terms of online dynamics and the such like, but I'm not a programmer and my knowledge of online-gaming-issues is limited to ping and what not. Lag can happen frequently even with good connections and can make playing a rather simple FPS shooter a nightmare.
Has anyone ever played 8 player PES(1/2)? I was wondering if this was playable and fun. Although 11-a-side is quite a bit different (each player would be one footballer throughout the game I guess rather than changing) if 8-player works, I wonder if 22-player would work. It would be boring being the goalie. Also the game would probably have to be 90 minutes long so that everyone gets a fair chance of the ball etc. I don't see players hanging around in defense for 90 minutes.
Actually, when online this could be the funniest game ever. Think about it. You have 20 (nobody would be a goalie) people punching out for the ball and you could put actual fighting in to help. Get rid of the referee to avoid stupidly short default victories. Add weapons, but no projectiles, and you have a footy game where nobody but a few sad enthusiasts score, before leaving the game, while the rest charge into the centre circle and beat each other senseless for the whole round...er, I mean match.
I guess everyone would wanna be striker, though. And nobody would dare go in goal.
SB.
I was thinking this earlier whilst playing ISS98 on the N64, still class after all these years. The thing is, skills, point of view, manouvers would all have to be far more advanced to make it interesting. Some football games barely manage to be interesting controlling all 11 player with only tackle (easy/slide), pass, shoot, as options for each one. Imagine how boring it would be if when you eventually did get the ball as one man in an 11 a side team and those were your only options? There needs to be a greater depth to show off your skills, and make the waiting more bearable. Also, I think this would work 100 times better on LIVE with the headsets, as footie is all about communication.
Actually, it would be a great idea. The thing with most football games is that they are designed to allow one player to control a whole team. Plus, have you seen the way players you don't control sit and stare as a free ball slowly rolls past them and to the feet of an oposing player on Pro Evo 2? Now, if someone was to do that, you could scream abuse at them. Therein lies one problem already - idle players mucking the game up for everyone (especially goalies).
Is it really possible? What about lag etc? I believe football is way more complicated than a FPS shooter in terms of online dynamics and the such like, but I'm not a programmer and my knowledge of online-gaming-issues is limited to ping and what not. Lag can happen frequently even with good connections and can make playing a rather simple FPS shooter a nightmare.
Has anyone ever played 8 player PES(1/2)? I was wondering if this was playable and fun. Although 11-a-side is quite a bit different (each player would be one footballer throughout the game I guess rather than changing) if 8-player works, I wonder if 22-player would work. It would be boring being the goalie. Also the game would probably have to be 90 minutes long so that everyone gets a fair chance of the ball etc. I don't see players hanging around in defense for 90 minutes.
Actually, when online this could be the funniest game ever. Think about it. You have 20 (nobody would be a goalie) people punching out for the ball and you could put actual fighting in to help. Get rid of the referee to avoid stupidly short default victories. Add weapons, but no projectiles, and you have a footy game where nobody but a few sad enthusiasts score, before leaving the game, while the rest charge into the centre circle and beat each other senseless for the whole round...er, I mean match.
I guess everyone would wanna be striker, though. And nobody would dare go in goal.
SB.
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True online football. Online team play. 11 human players a side - gaps piloted by bots if needs be. Pick a player and you stay with him, all the time, playing your part. Proper team play, no more advanced than Team Fortress or Counter Strike. Possible?
I was thinking this earlier whilst playing ISS98 on the N64, still class after all these years. The thing is, skills, point of view, manouvers would all have to be far more advanced to make it interesting. Some football games barely manage to be interesting controlling all 11 player with only tackle (easy/slide), pass, shoot, as options for each one. Imagine how boring it would be if when you eventually did get the ball as one man in an 11 a side team and those were your only options? There needs to be a greater depth to show off your skills, and make the waiting more bearable. Also, I think this would work 100 times better on LIVE with the headsets, as footie is all about communication.
Actually, it would be a great idea. The thing with most football games is that they are designed to allow one player to control a whole team. Plus, have you seen the way players you don't control sit and stare as a free ball slowly rolls past them and to the feet of an oposing player on Pro Evo 2? Now, if someone was to do that, you could scream abuse at them. Therein lies one problem already - idle players mucking the game up for everyone (especially goalies).
Is it really possible? What about lag etc? I believe football is way more complicated than a FPS shooter in terms of online dynamics and the such like, but I'm not a programmer and my knowledge of online-gaming-issues is limited to ping and what not. Lag can happen frequently even with good connections and can make playing a rather simple FPS shooter a nightmare.
Has anyone ever played 8 player PES(1/2)? I was wondering if this was playable and fun. Although 11-a-side is quite a bit different (each player would be one footballer throughout the game I guess rather than changing) if 8-player works, I wonder if 22-player would work. It would be boring being the goalie. Also the game would probably have to be 90 minutes long so that everyone gets a fair chance of the ball etc. I don't see players hanging around in defense for 90 minutes.
Actually, when online this could be the funniest game ever. Think about it. You have 20 (nobody would be a goalie) people punching out for the ball and you could put actual fighting in to help. Get rid of the referee to avoid stupidly short default victories. Add weapons, but no projectiles, and you have a footy game where nobody but a few sad enthusiasts score, before leaving the game, while the rest charge into the centre circle and beat each other senseless for the whole round...er, I mean match.
I guess everyone would wanna be striker, though. And nobody would dare go in goal.
SB.
I was thinking this earlier whilst playing ISS98 on the N64, still class after all these years. The thing is, skills, point of view, manouvers would all have to be far more advanced to make it interesting. Some football games barely manage to be interesting controlling all 11 player with only tackle (easy/slide), pass, shoot, as options for each one. Imagine how boring it would be if when you eventually did get the ball as one man in an 11 a side team and those were your only options? There needs to be a greater depth to show off your skills, and make the waiting more bearable. Also, I think this would work 100 times better on LIVE with the headsets, as footie is all about communication.
Actually, it would be a great idea. The thing with most football games is that they are designed to allow one player to control a whole team. Plus, have you seen the way players you don't control sit and stare as a free ball slowly rolls past them and to the feet of an oposing player on Pro Evo 2? Now, if someone was to do that, you could scream abuse at them. Therein lies one problem already - idle players mucking the game up for everyone (especially goalies).
Is it really possible? What about lag etc? I believe football is way more complicated than a FPS shooter in terms of online dynamics and the such like, but I'm not a programmer and my knowledge of online-gaming-issues is limited to ping and what not. Lag can happen frequently even with good connections and can make playing a rather simple FPS shooter a nightmare.
Has anyone ever played 8 player PES(1/2)? I was wondering if this was playable and fun. Although 11-a-side is quite a bit different (each player would be one footballer throughout the game I guess rather than changing) if 8-player works, I wonder if 22-player would work. It would be boring being the goalie. Also the game would probably have to be 90 minutes long so that everyone gets a fair chance of the ball etc. I don't see players hanging around in defense for 90 minutes.
Actually, when online this could be the funniest game ever. Think about it. You have 20 (nobody would be a goalie) people punching out for the ball and you could put actual fighting in to help. Get rid of the referee to avoid stupidly short default victories. Add weapons, but no projectiles, and you have a footy game where nobody but a few sad enthusiasts score, before leaving the game, while the rest charge into the centre circle and beat each other senseless for the whole round...er, I mean match.
I guess everyone would wanna be striker, though. And nobody would dare go in goal.
SB.