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Fri 14/12/01 at 18:53
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So Lee Bowyer is found not guilty of all charges while Jonathon Woodgate is found guilty of affray. Bowyer is a free man while Woodgate gets just 100hrs community service (where he will probably be allowed to train kids at football instead of clean the streets).

What does all this mean to you and I ?. This whole episode (two trials) has cost the taxpayer an estimated £15million. What a waste. How many operations could have been performed with that money ?. How many extra police offers could be on the beat with that money ?. Remember - the whole Sarah Payne investigation cost just over £2million, but at least it resulted in justice and one very sick individual locked behind bars.

As far as the England team is concerned it is good news. Bowyer has the quality to perform at International level and could prove vital in next summers world cup.
Sun 23/12/01 at 17:56
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papers caled for the two of them to be sacked. I dont think leads really wanted to sack 25 million quid somehow.
Sun 23/12/01 at 12:28
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He'll be in for a tough match if Leeds are drawn against Bradford in the FA Cup!!! They won't be happy about it happening in their local area!!
Sun 23/12/01 at 12:26
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More or less the whole country seems to hate Bowyer.

The Leeds Chairman (risdale or whatever his name is) said yesterday that he would not sign Bowyer if he played for a different club.

What sort of reaction you reckon Bowyer is gonna get away from home in the premiership this season?
Sun 23/12/01 at 12:19
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I wish people would just shut up about this case.

If Joe Bloggs and mates did this in Leeds, we all would not be talking about it whould we. It would make regional news but not national.

Just shut up it is getting boring.

All i hear is Bowyer is guilty and Woodgate should be in Jail. Well they are not and you can not do anything about it.
Sun 23/12/01 at 11:44
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Bowyer was FOUND innocent but i think he was guilty.
Imagine him with a group of mates who have been drinking, they think they are the greatest things on earth and because of who they are they wont get in big trouble.
and you know what. they are right
Sun 23/12/01 at 11:38
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Apparently he's been taken off the transfer list now!
Beacasue he's agreed to pay his fine (which is NOTHING to a footballer on £20k p/w!!) apparently, but I think it's cuz no-one will want to sign him!!

Would you, if you were a manager, and you know how he could react off the pitch??
Sat 22/12/01 at 22:29
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I don't like Lee Bowyer.

You can tell from his attitude on the pitch, and his facial expressions that he is a thug. I can just imagine him beating up an Asian, and I'm glad Leeds put him on the transfer list.
Sat 22/12/01 at 22:16
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I am not a leeds fan in fact i dont really even like leeds (FC).

But i think it is outrageous the way the papers are attacking lee bowyer at the moment. Whether or not you beliee justice has been done doesnt really matter but is an issue for the courts. What is the point of having a not guilty verdict if the papers are just going to attack him anyway. I bet if i went down the Pub in the strand or wherever newspapersbase themselves these days DURING working hours i would find more than one journalist under the effects of alcohol or in a not to good state. I feel it is unfair for the Papers to be so hypocritical as they are blatantly no better themselves.
Sat 22/12/01 at 19:08
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I think the 2 deserve A LOT MORE then what they got!!!! 100 hours community service is the biggest joke i've ever heard!!! What if he had murdered him?? Would it be 200 hours or 500?? Or is that too harsh for a footballer!! After all it only could've been murder!

Have all footballers recently been added as relatives to the Royal Familly or something?? And they therefore get let off? While an average man gets several years for the same conviction as 'the ghost of Elland Road'(Woodgate)!!

And who says Bowyer was innocent?? We've all seen how fired up he gets ON the pitch, and under the influence OFF the pitch he could be EVEN WORSE!!! So it's likely that Bowyer was also involved! As he didn't exactly stop the others from it now did he!

So no-one's innocent, except the victim. WHY HIM??? WHAT DID HE EVER DO??? He and his familly must be absolutely furious, due to the 'pathetic' ways in which the 2 guilty 'footballer' parties have been delt with!! CAN YOU BLAME THEM!!! How would you feel if you're son was put into intensive care, and 2 footballers were even locked up for 5 seconds!! At least one man got what was coming, but TWO are still allowed to roam free!

I think that it's rediculous to let 2 footballers 'get away with (almost) murder', just because of their occupations!! Why was it?? Cuz they're too rich and a fine wouldn't matter?? Are they too important to the future of English football?? - Yes, of course we want more stars on the pitch who are evil off of it!! They really shouldn't be allowed to play in England again, let alone for England or Leeds!!! Behaving off the pitch is just as important as behaving on it, and these 2 have broken the rules and gotten away with it.

I would've previously like to see Woodgate and Bowyer in England's World Cup squads, for the next few years. Bu tafter this inccident, I have to reverse my opinion!! They could really bring down England's reputation elsewhere. Just like the common England fan does, in each competetive international tournament! They could actually ruin English football!!!
Fri 14/12/01 at 18:53
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So Lee Bowyer is found not guilty of all charges while Jonathon Woodgate is found guilty of affray. Bowyer is a free man while Woodgate gets just 100hrs community service (where he will probably be allowed to train kids at football instead of clean the streets).

What does all this mean to you and I ?. This whole episode (two trials) has cost the taxpayer an estimated £15million. What a waste. How many operations could have been performed with that money ?. How many extra police offers could be on the beat with that money ?. Remember - the whole Sarah Payne investigation cost just over £2million, but at least it resulted in justice and one very sick individual locked behind bars.

As far as the England team is concerned it is good news. Bowyer has the quality to perform at International level and could prove vital in next summers world cup.

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