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Thu 06/12/01 at 18:30
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I don't know if any of you have ever noticed this but MTV claim songs as their own 'exclusives'. Even when they've appeared on another, BETTER, music channel, and has done for weeks before!!

I really hate it when this happens!!! Especialy when it's a band you like!! A pop channel, playing your 'tune of the week' constantly, over and over again!! Untill your so sick of it, that you want to buy the single, destroy it, and destroy every pop fan who calls it a great 'pop' tune!!! When a previously unknown tune appears on a channel like this, it begins it's commercialization, and continues along that road, to the end. Where it'll have transformed from a great tune, into an annoyance!!

I noticed this happen to me with Staind and 'It's Been A While'. It had appeared on kerrang! previously for just over a month. I didn't have 'Break The Cycle' at the time, and I thought it was a great song! I heard it over and over again, without tiring of it.

Then, after a month or so, it appeared on MTV. The presenter seemed to be ready to explode (with excitement) as it was being played on MTV for the very first time. Before it started, she was saying something like: "And now, it's time for an MTV exlusive!! It's the never before seen video, on Brittish television, for 'Staind'!!! And it's their first single, 'It's Been A While'!! I could not believe what she had just said!!! It had been on TV before, on Kerrang! and MTV 2!! And MTV had the cheek to call it their own, just to 'try to help' to bring up the falling number of viewers!!

I couldn't believe it!! "URRRRGGH!!!! ARRRRRRGH!!! GGGRRRRRRRR!!!! RUFF!!" These were some of the 'nice' things I was shouting at that stupid woman (ok, the TV actually!)!!! Have you ever felt like that?

The good thing though, is that I never got sick of this song permanently. And I still listen to it today! It may be because I got 'Break The Cycle' (their 3rd album) just in time, and that 'Outside' (my favourite Staind song) wasn't played on MTV as well (at that time anyway). But after the recorded version (not the live one) has been played on MTV, I've become sick of it. I used to love it, but MTV has killed it's image for me, turning it to a dull and boring ballad. Just like it does with ALL other rock/metal tracks heard elsewhere first.

I think 'Break The Cycle' is a great album, and I reccomend it! I still like Staind, and hope the same effect doesn't happen to 'Fade', or any other currently un-released track. And how I've now become fed up with Linkin Park's 'In The End'. Too much TV is bad for a good song. Especially when it's from a great album like 'Break The Cycle' or 'Hybrid Theory'.

Has anything like this ever happened to you? What would you do if it ever did? How would you feel? It's not a good feeling!!
Fri 07/12/01 at 20:45
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"funky blitzkreig"
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Thank you.

I listen to lots of music. my current cd rota involves Clarity by Jimmy Eat World, various Smashing Pumpkins, the Pixies and Jeff Buckley.

I probably have too many cds.
Fri 07/12/01 at 20:41
"Uzi Lover"
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misterhappy

You are de man hehe

no really you got a good sense and taste of music, good on ya!
Fri 07/12/01 at 20:38
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"funky blitzkreig"
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In Utero is one of the best albums ever to be made. I mean the early ninties saw a whole clutch of great bands, all of which were overshadowed by the incandescent brilliance of Nirvana. Take Soundgarden, a supremely good band, plunged into relative obscurity because Nirvana were so good.

The thing that Nirvana realised was that you could be popular without being pop. You could have commercial success without selling your soul to the men in suits. Look at the track listing to in utero, "Radio Friendly Unit Shifter".

Or listen to the words:
"Teenage Angst has paid off well
Now I'm bored and old
Self appointed judges judge
More than they have sold"

This is why Nirvana will always show Staind/Puddle of Mudd up for the bargain basement grunge that they are. Nirvana made music as an artform, not as a profit-making tool. Staind represent everything that I loathe in music; a band for whom the phrase corporate agnst was invented for.

If you want to hear superb acoustic tracks buy the Nirvana on MTV unplugged. A little heart and a little sould goes a long way in the music business. Until the men suits have blad you dry and hung you up. In "Death of a Salesman" Willy Loman says "man is not a piece of fruit", you can't take what you want and throw away the peel. I don't think there was any conspiracy in Kurt's death, if you liten to "dumb" or "Heart-shaped box" it's quite clear that he was depressed, suicidal even. That's probably because of how much he had been manipulated by record execs. Staind annoy me because they write hook-laden depression-driven music targeted at a specific market to make money. Nirvana were about rebellion, Staind aren't.

I'd just like to add that though I don't like Staind I hold nothing against you or your writing talent. It's a personal opinion and not a personal attack.
Fri 07/12/01 at 17:21
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"Long time no see!"
Posts: 8,351
misterhappy wrote:
> good post, but please please please go and listen to some Nirvana.

Nirvana eh? They're OK i guess. I like 'Come As You Are' and that's about it. People at laugh at you for liking them and call them old?? That's an insult!! Especially when they probably don't know about Kurt Cobain's suicide.

Do you think they'd still be big now if he hadn't -you know? Or would they be even greater?? I think they had great potential, and people should actually listen to their music, rather than critisise them!!!
Thu 06/12/01 at 22:48
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"funky blitzkreig"
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good post, but please please please go and listen to some Nirvana.
Thu 06/12/01 at 18:30
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"Long time no see!"
Posts: 8,351
I don't know if any of you have ever noticed this but MTV claim songs as their own 'exclusives'. Even when they've appeared on another, BETTER, music channel, and has done for weeks before!!

I really hate it when this happens!!! Especialy when it's a band you like!! A pop channel, playing your 'tune of the week' constantly, over and over again!! Untill your so sick of it, that you want to buy the single, destroy it, and destroy every pop fan who calls it a great 'pop' tune!!! When a previously unknown tune appears on a channel like this, it begins it's commercialization, and continues along that road, to the end. Where it'll have transformed from a great tune, into an annoyance!!

I noticed this happen to me with Staind and 'It's Been A While'. It had appeared on kerrang! previously for just over a month. I didn't have 'Break The Cycle' at the time, and I thought it was a great song! I heard it over and over again, without tiring of it.

Then, after a month or so, it appeared on MTV. The presenter seemed to be ready to explode (with excitement) as it was being played on MTV for the very first time. Before it started, she was saying something like: "And now, it's time for an MTV exlusive!! It's the never before seen video, on Brittish television, for 'Staind'!!! And it's their first single, 'It's Been A While'!! I could not believe what she had just said!!! It had been on TV before, on Kerrang! and MTV 2!! And MTV had the cheek to call it their own, just to 'try to help' to bring up the falling number of viewers!!

I couldn't believe it!! "URRRRGGH!!!! ARRRRRRGH!!! GGGRRRRRRRR!!!! RUFF!!" These were some of the 'nice' things I was shouting at that stupid woman (ok, the TV actually!)!!! Have you ever felt like that?

The good thing though, is that I never got sick of this song permanently. And I still listen to it today! It may be because I got 'Break The Cycle' (their 3rd album) just in time, and that 'Outside' (my favourite Staind song) wasn't played on MTV as well (at that time anyway). But after the recorded version (not the live one) has been played on MTV, I've become sick of it. I used to love it, but MTV has killed it's image for me, turning it to a dull and boring ballad. Just like it does with ALL other rock/metal tracks heard elsewhere first.

I think 'Break The Cycle' is a great album, and I reccomend it! I still like Staind, and hope the same effect doesn't happen to 'Fade', or any other currently un-released track. And how I've now become fed up with Linkin Park's 'In The End'. Too much TV is bad for a good song. Especially when it's from a great album like 'Break The Cycle' or 'Hybrid Theory'.

Has anything like this ever happened to you? What would you do if it ever did? How would you feel? It's not a good feeling!!

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