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Mon 15/11/10 at 13:58
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Kinect Sports vs Sports Champions vs Wii Sports

There is a reason why all three consoles have chosen a sports game as a launch to show off their new Motion controllers, it’s a perfect fit.

Wii Sports was the game that introduced everyone to the Wii control for the first time and Wii Sports Resort did the same with the Motion Plus. Sony and Microsoft were obviously paying attention because Sports Champions was a launch title for the Move and Kinect Sports did the same for the Kinect this week.

I’ve been playing the sports games on all three systems and it’s certainly a good level playing field to find out just how good each company’s tech is.

Round 1 – The Games
It’s worth mentioning that even if you have the best motion tech in the world, if the game isn’t up to scratch it will look bad.

Wii Sports – Wii/Wii Remote
Wii Sports could have killed the Wii off right at the start of its life back in 2006, but it had the advantage of Nintendo styling and a cute factor that no-one could resist. The game has 5 different sports to choose from; tennis, baseball, bowling, golf, and boxing, all of which use the same style and Mii character Avatars that users can generate to replicate themselves in the game.

By far the most popular parts of the game at the time were Boxing and Golf, with Bowling a close second. Though all the games are simplified, individually they still provide as much entertainment as some of the later full releases.

The game also provided a fitness mode that gave a rough workout routine based on playing short versions of some of the sports games.

Sports Champions – Playstation 3/Move
Looking far more realistic than Wii Sports, the 2010 game Sports Champions provides 6 sports with a range of options. Disc Golf, Archery, Gladiator Combat, Table Tennis, Vollyball and Bocce are the games on offer. Although the aim seems to be to steer clear of the Wii Sports staples, Sports Champions seems to provide a strange and unconnected set of sports to play. There is the option of playing with a single Move controller or two of them, the latter being the preferred option for Gladiator and Archery.

Sports Champions menu system feels clumsy next to Wii Sports and takes longer to navigate. The game as a whole feels too generic and the realistic approach makes it feel almost joyless at times, however, the Table Tennis and Gladiator are pretty accurate and good fun to play.

Kinect Sports – Xbox 360/Kinect
Like Sports Champions, Kinect Sports came out separately from the system. It bridges the gap between the twee Wii Sports and the grown up Sports Champions in terms of graphics and approach. Kinect Sports has 11 events if you include all the Track and Field events as separate sports, 6 if not. The game gives you the ability to use your Xbox Live Avatar and records video of you playing which can then be uploaded to KinectShare website and later downloaded by the user.

All the sports work well to show off the possibilities of the hardware and the licensed music and voice overs all make it feel very professional. It gels together better than Sports Champions as a whole.

Winner: Kinect Sports

Round 2 – Accuracy of the Hardware

Wii Sports – Wii/Wii Remote
The Wii Remote has become the universal standard for Motion Control. Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort showed off better than any other piece of software what it could do. It also showed the limitations that are still present in the hardware.

Though the Remote can track movement, it tracks only certain large movements and can’t track 1:1. Even with Motion Plus, which enhances the tracking, there are still no signs of 1:1 motion tracking. However, Wii Sports titles have shown that there is no lag between movement and on-screen action.

The lack of full tracking does have its drawbacks, particularly in fast action games like boxing or when accuracy is required as with Golf. Many are happy to skirt over this issue though due to the clever use of the software to counter these issues. There is still the issue of a certain lack of skill involved in some games when 5 year olds can beat those twice their age who would otherwise be more skilled at games.

Sports Champions – Playstation 3/Move
Sports Champions only uses the Move Controller rather than the Navigation Controller, however, since the second controller is really only used for analogue navigation in games it isn’t really required for many Move based games, only for those that have been adapted to use Move.

The games prove that Move is far better at tracking user’s movements than the Wii Remote. Table Tennis is especially good at mapping your angle and bat swing in the game. In fact, nothing can beat the Move for accuracy and the Gladiator game is far better for it than the equivalent pugil stick game on Wii Sports Resort, even with Motion Plus on the Wii Remote.


Kinect Sports – Xbox 360/Kinect
Kinect has the full body to map every few milliseconds. Surprisingly it does a good job, even going as far as mapping facial expressions. It can’t, however, map fingers, but then neither can Move or the Wii Remote.

Kinect Sports shows off the whole body mapping in several of the games, Javelin has you running and throwing and it measures how high your knees are and the elevation of your arm when you throw. Football copies your leg and arm movements though makes some sacrifice when adjusting ball direction based on how you kick. The one fault with accuracy on Kinect is a small amount of lag.

Winner: Sports Champions

Round 3– Feedback

Both Sports Champions and Wii Sports allow some level of feedback. Wii Sports can vibrate the Wii Remote and make noises through it to allow the user to gauge feedback, the Move only allows for vibration.

Kinect doesn’t have a controller and therefore no feedback option.

Winner: Wii Sports

Round 4– Overall Satisfaction

Wii Sports – Wii/Wii Remote
Wii Sports and Resort are both very fun to play. They allow for different skill levels so the whole family can play on a level field. They do have the most limitations of the 3 motion controlled games systems because of the hardware involved, but Nintendo have designed the game around this and come up with solutuions.

The integration of Miis, in particular your friend’s Miis that they’ve shared with you is a great idea.

Sports Champions – Playstation 3/Move
Sports Champions is an accurate and fairly realistic game thanks to the controls and the graphics. However, this is like saying a Volvo is a safe and reliable car when parked next to a Ferrari. The game is aimed at the adult market and perhaps it is this that removes the fun factor from the game, but for whatever reason the game just feels as if it has something lacking.

Kinect Sports – Xbox 360/Kinect
I don’t believe I’m going to say this but Kinect Sports is better than Wii Sports. There, I’ve said it. The game has the advantage of HD graphics and uses Xbox Avatars to replace the Wii’s Mii characters. It really shows off what Kinect can do and the video replays help to make this feel like a true leap in motion-based sports games. The use of licensed music during the winning replays adds to the polished feel of the game.

Winner: Kinect Sports

Conclusion
All three games show off the motion controls of their respective systems well but while the realistic approach of Sports Champions may appeal to some, it tends to make the game feel less fun.

Out of the other 2, Kinect Sports does feel more polished but it possibly less accessible for younger players who will find waving the Wii Remote around a lot easier than lining up with Kinect properly. However, Kinect Sports gets the edge for feeling like an all-round package with some great sports and a polished feel to it.
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Mon 15/11/10 at 13:58
Moderator
"possibly impossible"
Posts: 24,985
Kinect Sports vs Sports Champions vs Wii Sports

There is a reason why all three consoles have chosen a sports game as a launch to show off their new Motion controllers, it’s a perfect fit.

Wii Sports was the game that introduced everyone to the Wii control for the first time and Wii Sports Resort did the same with the Motion Plus. Sony and Microsoft were obviously paying attention because Sports Champions was a launch title for the Move and Kinect Sports did the same for the Kinect this week.

I’ve been playing the sports games on all three systems and it’s certainly a good level playing field to find out just how good each company’s tech is.

Round 1 – The Games
It’s worth mentioning that even if you have the best motion tech in the world, if the game isn’t up to scratch it will look bad.

Wii Sports – Wii/Wii Remote
Wii Sports could have killed the Wii off right at the start of its life back in 2006, but it had the advantage of Nintendo styling and a cute factor that no-one could resist. The game has 5 different sports to choose from; tennis, baseball, bowling, golf, and boxing, all of which use the same style and Mii character Avatars that users can generate to replicate themselves in the game.

By far the most popular parts of the game at the time were Boxing and Golf, with Bowling a close second. Though all the games are simplified, individually they still provide as much entertainment as some of the later full releases.

The game also provided a fitness mode that gave a rough workout routine based on playing short versions of some of the sports games.

Sports Champions – Playstation 3/Move
Looking far more realistic than Wii Sports, the 2010 game Sports Champions provides 6 sports with a range of options. Disc Golf, Archery, Gladiator Combat, Table Tennis, Vollyball and Bocce are the games on offer. Although the aim seems to be to steer clear of the Wii Sports staples, Sports Champions seems to provide a strange and unconnected set of sports to play. There is the option of playing with a single Move controller or two of them, the latter being the preferred option for Gladiator and Archery.

Sports Champions menu system feels clumsy next to Wii Sports and takes longer to navigate. The game as a whole feels too generic and the realistic approach makes it feel almost joyless at times, however, the Table Tennis and Gladiator are pretty accurate and good fun to play.

Kinect Sports – Xbox 360/Kinect
Like Sports Champions, Kinect Sports came out separately from the system. It bridges the gap between the twee Wii Sports and the grown up Sports Champions in terms of graphics and approach. Kinect Sports has 11 events if you include all the Track and Field events as separate sports, 6 if not. The game gives you the ability to use your Xbox Live Avatar and records video of you playing which can then be uploaded to KinectShare website and later downloaded by the user.

All the sports work well to show off the possibilities of the hardware and the licensed music and voice overs all make it feel very professional. It gels together better than Sports Champions as a whole.

Winner: Kinect Sports

Round 2 – Accuracy of the Hardware

Wii Sports – Wii/Wii Remote
The Wii Remote has become the universal standard for Motion Control. Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort showed off better than any other piece of software what it could do. It also showed the limitations that are still present in the hardware.

Though the Remote can track movement, it tracks only certain large movements and can’t track 1:1. Even with Motion Plus, which enhances the tracking, there are still no signs of 1:1 motion tracking. However, Wii Sports titles have shown that there is no lag between movement and on-screen action.

The lack of full tracking does have its drawbacks, particularly in fast action games like boxing or when accuracy is required as with Golf. Many are happy to skirt over this issue though due to the clever use of the software to counter these issues. There is still the issue of a certain lack of skill involved in some games when 5 year olds can beat those twice their age who would otherwise be more skilled at games.

Sports Champions – Playstation 3/Move
Sports Champions only uses the Move Controller rather than the Navigation Controller, however, since the second controller is really only used for analogue navigation in games it isn’t really required for many Move based games, only for those that have been adapted to use Move.

The games prove that Move is far better at tracking user’s movements than the Wii Remote. Table Tennis is especially good at mapping your angle and bat swing in the game. In fact, nothing can beat the Move for accuracy and the Gladiator game is far better for it than the equivalent pugil stick game on Wii Sports Resort, even with Motion Plus on the Wii Remote.


Kinect Sports – Xbox 360/Kinect
Kinect has the full body to map every few milliseconds. Surprisingly it does a good job, even going as far as mapping facial expressions. It can’t, however, map fingers, but then neither can Move or the Wii Remote.

Kinect Sports shows off the whole body mapping in several of the games, Javelin has you running and throwing and it measures how high your knees are and the elevation of your arm when you throw. Football copies your leg and arm movements though makes some sacrifice when adjusting ball direction based on how you kick. The one fault with accuracy on Kinect is a small amount of lag.

Winner: Sports Champions

Round 3– Feedback

Both Sports Champions and Wii Sports allow some level of feedback. Wii Sports can vibrate the Wii Remote and make noises through it to allow the user to gauge feedback, the Move only allows for vibration.

Kinect doesn’t have a controller and therefore no feedback option.

Winner: Wii Sports

Round 4– Overall Satisfaction

Wii Sports – Wii/Wii Remote
Wii Sports and Resort are both very fun to play. They allow for different skill levels so the whole family can play on a level field. They do have the most limitations of the 3 motion controlled games systems because of the hardware involved, but Nintendo have designed the game around this and come up with solutuions.

The integration of Miis, in particular your friend’s Miis that they’ve shared with you is a great idea.

Sports Champions – Playstation 3/Move
Sports Champions is an accurate and fairly realistic game thanks to the controls and the graphics. However, this is like saying a Volvo is a safe and reliable car when parked next to a Ferrari. The game is aimed at the adult market and perhaps it is this that removes the fun factor from the game, but for whatever reason the game just feels as if it has something lacking.

Kinect Sports – Xbox 360/Kinect
I don’t believe I’m going to say this but Kinect Sports is better than Wii Sports. There, I’ve said it. The game has the advantage of HD graphics and uses Xbox Avatars to replace the Wii’s Mii characters. It really shows off what Kinect can do and the video replays help to make this feel like a true leap in motion-based sports games. The use of licensed music during the winning replays adds to the polished feel of the game.

Winner: Kinect Sports

Conclusion
All three games show off the motion controls of their respective systems well but while the realistic approach of Sports Champions may appeal to some, it tends to make the game feel less fun.

Out of the other 2, Kinect Sports does feel more polished but it possibly less accessible for younger players who will find waving the Wii Remote around a lot easier than lining up with Kinect properly. However, Kinect Sports gets the edge for feeling like an all-round package with some great sports and a polished feel to it.

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