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I'm probably in the minority here but I can't help but feel that the World is full of wannabee pop stars and television bosses are on hand to reap the rewards.
The latest find a star venture, Pop Idol, is just another band wagon being jumped on by all and sundry. It is very unoriginal and very unneccessary. Why on Earth do we need another Pop Star?
Thousands of hopefuls putting themselves on show trying to realise a lifelong ambition ( that they've had for the last few months! ). Many of them very good singers and entertainers. Even more of them with a much higher opinion of their 'talents' than anyone else has. The judges are the real stars of the show. Why shouldn't they give an honest opinion of the contestants? If the public are willing to get up and be counted then they must also be ready to accept any criticism levelled at them. It ultimately won't do their prospective careers any good if they are handled with kid gloves.
I've noticed recently how the contestants are starting to fight back and the verbals have been travelling the other way. Is this what they would do if they attended a job interview? Would they reach over the desk and batter their interviewer on rejection? I thought that being a Pop Idol would involve projecting some sort of role model attributes. Could be wrong though!
Inevitably, most weeks shows do end in tears. After rejection and failure, the waterworks take over and much flooding ensues. This week though, I had a box of tissues on hand!
However, having said all that, I disagree with the judges in their opinion that a Pop Idol requires a really strong voice. On the contrary, I think that a strong song is enough to be successful. Look back at some of the most famous groups of the last twenty or thirty years. The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Duran Duran, Adam and The Ants and The Wombles. None of them had particularly good lead singers, but who cared? They had that something special that can never be categorised. And they weren't hand picked.
Please, please, no more Pop Stars, Idols or Groups. I can't stand much more of ' ...she didn't blow me away!...'. How I wish that someone would!
The latest find a star venture, Pop Idol, is just another band wagon being jumped on by all and sundry. It is very unoriginal and very unneccessary. Why on Earth do we need another Pop Star?
Thousands of hopefuls putting themselves on show trying to realise a lifelong ambition ( that they've had for the last few months! ). Many of them very good singers and entertainers. Even more of them with a much higher opinion of their 'talents' than anyone else has. The judges are the real stars of the show. Why shouldn't they give an honest opinion of the contestants? If the public are willing to get up and be counted then they must also be ready to accept any criticism levelled at them. It ultimately won't do their prospective careers any good if they are handled with kid gloves.
I've noticed recently how the contestants are starting to fight back and the verbals have been travelling the other way. Is this what they would do if they attended a job interview? Would they reach over the desk and batter their interviewer on rejection? I thought that being a Pop Idol would involve projecting some sort of role model attributes. Could be wrong though!
Inevitably, most weeks shows do end in tears. After rejection and failure, the waterworks take over and much flooding ensues. This week though, I had a box of tissues on hand!
However, having said all that, I disagree with the judges in their opinion that a Pop Idol requires a really strong voice. On the contrary, I think that a strong song is enough to be successful. Look back at some of the most famous groups of the last twenty or thirty years. The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Duran Duran, Adam and The Ants and The Wombles. None of them had particularly good lead singers, but who cared? They had that something special that can never be categorised. And they weren't hand picked.
Please, please, no more Pop Stars, Idols or Groups. I can't stand much more of ' ...she didn't blow me away!...'. How I wish that someone would!
montythekid wrote:
I've noticed recently how the contestants are starting to fight
> back and the verbals have been travelling the other way. Is this what they would
> do if they attended a job interview? Would they reach over the desk and batter
> their interviewer on rejection?
I know I would/have if someone spoke to me like they do.
I don't care who you think you are, show respect to people or run the risk of getting slammed into the wall.
I've noticed recently how the contestants are starting to fight
> back and the verbals have been travelling the other way. Is this what they would
> do if they attended a job interview? Would they reach over the desk and batter
> their interviewer on rejection?
I know I would/have if someone spoke to me like they do.
I don't care who you think you are, show respect to people or run the risk of getting slammed into the wall.
It's just me speaking as someone in a band, but it personally really, really ***** me off that these drones get picked and you just know they'll have a number one before they slip away into obscurity again.
Dammit, these people just stroll up and get picked because of one performance.
They have not paid their dues.
They have not rehearsed for hours per week/weeks per month etc, or played gigs to other bands and their girlfriends.
They haven't had the highs of a fantastic gig and the lows of one where nobody is there and you play anyway.
Imagine you've been in a job for a year, it's crap but you just might get picked to be the boss, to have the company car etc if you keep working and hope that you're good enough and someone sees you on that moment on that day.
And in comes someone else, been there 10 secs but they say something funny and the boss gives them the key to executive washroom based on 1 meeting and a nice interview.
You know they've never done this job before and just came along on the off-chance.
You know they have minimal talent but can be marketed the right way that they get your ideal job.
Would you be angry?
Damn right you would, you're putting in the hours, you know you're better than that person, but they got what you want because someone just picked them out of a crowd.
They haven't done the hours, done the homework, learned the trade through rubbish hours and no money for performing.
I detest these people with a passion.
Why the hell do they get to do it because they look right, whilst they have no discernible talent?
They just got lucky on that day and 3 people liked them?
It's not about winning the respect of a cold crowd that isn't there to see you.
3 people choose them, and then they enter the marketing machine and the public is generally stupid enough to fall for the press and buy their shoddy single.
Hearsay..jesus christ, can anyone say "All Saints"?
And yes, there is a case of jealousy here.
Why the hell not?
I've been busting my hump since I was 15 learning my craft/driving 40 miles each week to rehearsals, getting bloody hands from playing so hard, so tired I have to take days off work to recover because I drove for 2hrs to play 40 mins in front of people.
THAT is paying your dues in music, not turning up to an audition, covering someone else's song and 3 people deciding you're good and the public are idiots and will buy anything you tell them is good.
And when we play, there are people there, so it's not a sulk.
Last time we played, we had over 250+ through the door.
Those are strangers that pay to come and see us because we have played many,many times and built up a following.
By going out there and doing it, facing strangers and displaying our souls in our songs, putting everything we have, time and time again on the line.
Not for money, not for fame, but because playing music is the only thing I know how to do.
Of course I want to get signed, of course I want to play to thousands of people, of course I want the rock and roll lifestyle.
But I work bloody hard to do that.
I haven't just shown up to a room with thousands of others that are there because they want to be famous.
These people are ruining music for those that have to play to express themselves.
It's not about being a "popstar" it's about being a musician.
It's about a drive inside you to play music to people because for those 30mins-1hour you are onstage,you are free from the everyday crap that can wear you down.
When Parker play, regardless of whether there's 20 people there or 200, for that time onstage behind my drums, I am creating passion and lifting my soul above job/house/car/life.
THAT is what it is about, not wanting to be famous because it would be, y'know, neat.
The programme isn't called "Musician" is it? Or "Singer"
No, it's called "Popstar" - and that's the problem.
It's not about providing music with another talented performer.
It's about providing tabloids and record companies with fresh meat. Another face to do "My sofa-sex-romp" stories with childhood sweethearts.
It's not music, it's bloody celebrity whatever.
You used to have to be a musician to get recognised in that field, not get picked from the public to appear in Heat and OK at the latest celeb hang-out.
Popstars/Pop Idol...once picked, that person should then be put in a room with a band and wear a disguise and play gigs on the circuit, to crowds you have to work to win over.
I'd like to see how long any of these chimps would survive with just the music to be judged on.
Damn Popstars and anyone that thinks winning that means you get respect from those doing it for real.
Dammit, these people just stroll up and get picked because of one performance.
They have not paid their dues.
They have not rehearsed for hours per week/weeks per month etc, or played gigs to other bands and their girlfriends.
They haven't had the highs of a fantastic gig and the lows of one where nobody is there and you play anyway.
Imagine you've been in a job for a year, it's crap but you just might get picked to be the boss, to have the company car etc if you keep working and hope that you're good enough and someone sees you on that moment on that day.
And in comes someone else, been there 10 secs but they say something funny and the boss gives them the key to executive washroom based on 1 meeting and a nice interview.
You know they've never done this job before and just came along on the off-chance.
You know they have minimal talent but can be marketed the right way that they get your ideal job.
Would you be angry?
Damn right you would, you're putting in the hours, you know you're better than that person, but they got what you want because someone just picked them out of a crowd.
They haven't done the hours, done the homework, learned the trade through rubbish hours and no money for performing.
I detest these people with a passion.
Why the hell do they get to do it because they look right, whilst they have no discernible talent?
They just got lucky on that day and 3 people liked them?
It's not about winning the respect of a cold crowd that isn't there to see you.
3 people choose them, and then they enter the marketing machine and the public is generally stupid enough to fall for the press and buy their shoddy single.
Hearsay..jesus christ, can anyone say "All Saints"?
And yes, there is a case of jealousy here.
Why the hell not?
I've been busting my hump since I was 15 learning my craft/driving 40 miles each week to rehearsals, getting bloody hands from playing so hard, so tired I have to take days off work to recover because I drove for 2hrs to play 40 mins in front of people.
THAT is paying your dues in music, not turning up to an audition, covering someone else's song and 3 people deciding you're good and the public are idiots and will buy anything you tell them is good.
And when we play, there are people there, so it's not a sulk.
Last time we played, we had over 250+ through the door.
Those are strangers that pay to come and see us because we have played many,many times and built up a following.
By going out there and doing it, facing strangers and displaying our souls in our songs, putting everything we have, time and time again on the line.
Not for money, not for fame, but because playing music is the only thing I know how to do.
Of course I want to get signed, of course I want to play to thousands of people, of course I want the rock and roll lifestyle.
But I work bloody hard to do that.
I haven't just shown up to a room with thousands of others that are there because they want to be famous.
These people are ruining music for those that have to play to express themselves.
It's not about being a "popstar" it's about being a musician.
It's about a drive inside you to play music to people because for those 30mins-1hour you are onstage,you are free from the everyday crap that can wear you down.
When Parker play, regardless of whether there's 20 people there or 200, for that time onstage behind my drums, I am creating passion and lifting my soul above job/house/car/life.
THAT is what it is about, not wanting to be famous because it would be, y'know, neat.
The programme isn't called "Musician" is it? Or "Singer"
No, it's called "Popstar" - and that's the problem.
It's not about providing music with another talented performer.
It's about providing tabloids and record companies with fresh meat. Another face to do "My sofa-sex-romp" stories with childhood sweethearts.
It's not music, it's bloody celebrity whatever.
You used to have to be a musician to get recognised in that field, not get picked from the public to appear in Heat and OK at the latest celeb hang-out.
Popstars/Pop Idol...once picked, that person should then be put in a room with a band and wear a disguise and play gigs on the circuit, to crowds you have to work to win over.
I'd like to see how long any of these chimps would survive with just the music to be judged on.
Damn Popstars and anyone that thinks winning that means you get respect from those doing it for real.
I found the last line very amusing, although I don't agree on all your points.
I never thought I'd say this, but Pop Idol is entertaining. I don't really care who wins, I just like to hear the judges. {:)
They went over the edge to one man, who has a good voice but really just chose the wrong song. That Simon guy said, "It used to be my favourite song, but it's not anymore now that I've heard you sing it."
He wasn't that bad! :D
I never thought I'd say this, but Pop Idol is entertaining. I don't really care who wins, I just like to hear the judges. {:)
They went over the edge to one man, who has a good voice but really just chose the wrong song. That Simon guy said, "It used to be my favourite song, but it's not anymore now that I've heard you sing it."
He wasn't that bad! :D
I'm probably in the minority here but I can't help but feel that the World is full of wannabee pop stars and television bosses are on hand to reap the rewards.
The latest find a star venture, Pop Idol, is just another band wagon being jumped on by all and sundry. It is very unoriginal and very unneccessary. Why on Earth do we need another Pop Star?
Thousands of hopefuls putting themselves on show trying to realise a lifelong ambition ( that they've had for the last few months! ). Many of them very good singers and entertainers. Even more of them with a much higher opinion of their 'talents' than anyone else has. The judges are the real stars of the show. Why shouldn't they give an honest opinion of the contestants? If the public are willing to get up and be counted then they must also be ready to accept any criticism levelled at them. It ultimately won't do their prospective careers any good if they are handled with kid gloves.
I've noticed recently how the contestants are starting to fight back and the verbals have been travelling the other way. Is this what they would do if they attended a job interview? Would they reach over the desk and batter their interviewer on rejection? I thought that being a Pop Idol would involve projecting some sort of role model attributes. Could be wrong though!
Inevitably, most weeks shows do end in tears. After rejection and failure, the waterworks take over and much flooding ensues. This week though, I had a box of tissues on hand!
However, having said all that, I disagree with the judges in their opinion that a Pop Idol requires a really strong voice. On the contrary, I think that a strong song is enough to be successful. Look back at some of the most famous groups of the last twenty or thirty years. The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Duran Duran, Adam and The Ants and The Wombles. None of them had particularly good lead singers, but who cared? They had that something special that can never be categorised. And they weren't hand picked.
Please, please, no more Pop Stars, Idols or Groups. I can't stand much more of ' ...she didn't blow me away!...'. How I wish that someone would!
The latest find a star venture, Pop Idol, is just another band wagon being jumped on by all and sundry. It is very unoriginal and very unneccessary. Why on Earth do we need another Pop Star?
Thousands of hopefuls putting themselves on show trying to realise a lifelong ambition ( that they've had for the last few months! ). Many of them very good singers and entertainers. Even more of them with a much higher opinion of their 'talents' than anyone else has. The judges are the real stars of the show. Why shouldn't they give an honest opinion of the contestants? If the public are willing to get up and be counted then they must also be ready to accept any criticism levelled at them. It ultimately won't do their prospective careers any good if they are handled with kid gloves.
I've noticed recently how the contestants are starting to fight back and the verbals have been travelling the other way. Is this what they would do if they attended a job interview? Would they reach over the desk and batter their interviewer on rejection? I thought that being a Pop Idol would involve projecting some sort of role model attributes. Could be wrong though!
Inevitably, most weeks shows do end in tears. After rejection and failure, the waterworks take over and much flooding ensues. This week though, I had a box of tissues on hand!
However, having said all that, I disagree with the judges in their opinion that a Pop Idol requires a really strong voice. On the contrary, I think that a strong song is enough to be successful. Look back at some of the most famous groups of the last twenty or thirty years. The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Duran Duran, Adam and The Ants and The Wombles. None of them had particularly good lead singers, but who cared? They had that something special that can never be categorised. And they weren't hand picked.
Please, please, no more Pop Stars, Idols or Groups. I can't stand much more of ' ...she didn't blow me away!...'. How I wish that someone would!