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"You probably already knew this but.."

....our favourite console company has gone all childish for Gamecube, the constant torment we have recieved about Nintendo being kiddy has become more of a reality than ever. Nintendo claim that games like Zelda Orcarina of time and Mario 64 was so big that only dedicated gamers ever reached the end.

So know games will be shorter and easier to play, gah! We still have Resident Evil and Sega to deliver the goods but Nintendo have freely admitted that their biggest titles, Mario, Zelda etc are now going to be much easier and more accesable to children and whats their excuse? They say children are Nintendos biggest audience so are looking to 'corner the market.'

This could lead to bigger better things as a whole in the future but for now it will ruin games like Zelda for me, at least a lot more games will be released a lot more often now. Don't go explaining how we have Pikmin or listing all adult games Gamecube had bu ti'm just saying that giving shorter versions of Zelda takes something away from it, no more 60 hours plus wasted on video gaming a small 30 - 40 now.

P.S I hope this causes controversy about Nintendo not being childish.

ZELDA WILL NEVER BE C**P!!!!!!! Unless it was created for the X-box or PS2 (WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!!). Yes, the graphics aren't what we'd expect, but that doesn't mean it won't be as great/even better to play, than the N64 versions. And when the producers and develpoers of Zelda GC realise that everyone hates the graphics, they'll hopefully see sense, and produce a sequel with better graphics, like the N64's but a step up into the next-generation!! I also think they should release the same game, but with the option of N64 graphics, or the cartoony ones. Or have that optioon available in the game options.

your right one game dosent......i used this an an extremity.....another example is rouge leader......isnt exactly kiddyfied is it?, same with blue storm...just cos its colourful....metriod prime.....one key game for the GC....certainly not kid orientated...more teen 9althoguh in certain cases i do personally class certain teens as kids.....but thats just cos they are childish.....enought about that). lemme see more examples......oh yeah FIFA, Soul Calibur 2, phantasy star, legends of wrestling, turok evolution, duke nukem forever (he he...when its released), they are but a few that i can remember.....i wonder if the issue witht he kiddyness, is all to do witht he graphics??.....if thats so why the hell are u all arguing.....just because the graphics arent photo realistic dosent meant he game is. the fatc of the matter is that the graphics are the only thing cartoony about it.....the games themselves may be too complex for kids...later on i mean....same situation like warhammer 40K (whay!!!), just cos its a type of board game dont mean its for kids!!!!......you could quite easily knock a grown up out with the rule book alone!!!!....i think ive made my point clear...and im open for questions!!!:-D

Well i haven't seen a C**p Zelda game yet so We will have to wait and find out if it is anygood. I hope it is but if it isn't there are more than 1 games for the Gamecube.

lucifer the snowman wrote:
> whatt he hell is all this talk about "kiddie games" on the
> GC???????,
hasnt anyone here seen the movie for resident evil on it??.....a tad
> violent at the end i maight add.......not really for kids!.....see for
> yourselves

http://cube.ign.com/previews/17045.html


One game doesn't get rid of the image!

Even though I think this argument about "Kiddie" image is a load of ****! I'm not a kid and I love Nintendo games!

Frankly I don't see anything wrong with the games which have been anounced so far, and they have persuaded me that waiting for Gamecube is the right choice to make instead of getting a PS2, like some FOOLS have done!

:)

whatt he hell is all this talk about "kiddie games" on the GC???????,
hasnt anyone here seen the movie for resident evil on it??.....a tad violent at the end i maight add.......not really for kids!.....see for yourselves

http://cube.ign.com/previews/17045.html

Sonic Adventure was an easy game. However, it was so long (6 characters, each with their own huge stories+ one extra character) that the game went on for ever!

However, back to the point...

how many of you are not disapointed that the images of the "realistic" looking Zelda fight scene between Link and Gannondorf were not taken forwards and turned into a real game?

And if you are one of these people: you're lying!

Sonic

Cooky wrote:
> Sibs wrote:

(no offense to any Japanese, but
> just cos the Japanese
> 'invented' gaming as it were, doesn't mean you should make
> games easier
> etc. to feel better about yourselves... as my teachers always
> say...
> 'You're only cheating yourself')


erm..... The spectrum n stuff were out
> well before the NES etc. It was pretty much the English who invented
> gaming!

:)

I know the older consoles and stuff weren't japanese, but that's why it was in inverted commas. I meant the Japanese see themselves as the 'inventors' of gaming, and to an extent, they are the 'inventors' of modern gaming, but not retro gaming (pre-NES retro that is...)

So there Cooky!
And that makes it twice as bad that we get consoles so far behind Japan, since we (the british) were making games up in our bedrooms in the 70's and 80's before any of those new fangled Japanese consoles were around!
(even though, personnally I wasn't because I was only born 16 years ago. EXACTLY 16 years ago actually! It's my Bday!)

What's always set Nintendo apart from other makers of "kiddie games" is that whlie Nintendo's had cute graphics and were easy to get into, they also had real depth which would challenge and impress even the most hardened gamer.

They always pushed the boundaries of gaming from Mario's true 3D setting to Zelda 64's freedom.

Apparently, Zelda is going to be easier, shorter and linear for children and casual gamers.
Children who'll buy the game anyway and probably still won't complete it and casual gamers who won't buy the game anyway because it looks cartoony.

I think that the real reason is that Nintendo wants to make more games quickly and make more money out of more releases rather than spending more time on one or two.
I wouldn't mind if it was just a few odd extra games they were doing this with but to cut short the big epic Zelda we were so looking forward to is a big disappointment.

I'm hoping that it's just an antihype marketing ploy to lower our expectations.

Otherwise, I, along with hundreds of other hardcore Nintendo fans will see the "15 hours" in the review, and decide to rent it instead.
All the people who aren't Nintendo hardcore fans will dissmiss it as a cartoony kiddies game and the sales will be dire and it'll serve Nintendo right.

Let's just hope that it's worst case scenario...

Nothing wrong with the PS2 just make sure you buy yourself a Gamecube as well, I would like me some GTA3 and GT3 but i'm a loyal Nintendo fan always have been always will be (wasn't that nice) damn my roots!