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Well well, at long last this movie is available for me to buy and own.
Despite The Daily Mail "Ban This Sick Filth" (also with Reservoir Dogs showing now on C4 and there will be a couple of posts about it when it finishes), everyone forgot about the movie and now I can watch this at home.
Adapted (loosely) from the Tarantino script, Oliver Stone took the core of the story and turned it into something else entirely.
1st time I watched this at the cinema, it agitated me a lot.
I don't mean I got indignant, I mean I physically became twitchy and irritable.
When it finished, I came out with a massive headache and was unable to talk to anyone for about an hour.
Simply because this film is a total assault on the senses from start-to-finish.
There are so many film stocks used, 8mm, 16mm, 35mm, digital video, cinecamera, animation, backprojections etc and they're used a hell of a lot. Chuck in frequent subliminals and you begind to approximate the effect watching this on the big screen can have.
I came out and thought it was like trying to watch television, but having a spastic kid flicking channels every 15 seconds or so.
You can never settle back and just watch it, you're constantly on edge and kept rattled by the blinding pace and general chaos of this movie.
And that's the point it's trying to make.
Ironically, for a movie about the numbing effect of media on our culture, it was decried by this country and banned from video.
If you think movies cause violence? Go watch this movie and see that argument blown to pieces in front of you.
Movies do not cause violence, there are violent movies because we are violent.
We've got the cart in front of the horse on this issue and it's become real cloudy with many pseudo-critics stroking their goatees and saying "Hmmm, shocking...would influence someone to kill...terrible".
From the footage of the Menendaz Bros, to OJ Simpson and Rodney King all at the end, we are living in a culture that celebrates violence and serial-killers/mass murderers like they're movie stars.
You can buy t-shirts with Charles Manson's face on.
And for anyone that thinks he's cool?
He organised his group, led by Squeaky Frome, to murder Roman Polanski's girlfriend Sharon Tate (7 months pregnant at the time) and write obscene slogans on her wall in foetal blood in the hopes of sparking a race-war.
Nice guy, I want a t-shirt with his face on.
Hannibal Lecter is one of the most popular characters in movie history. A cannabalistic serial-killer.
I know they're just movies, but why these figures?
And that's what Natural Born Killers is saying:
It's not movies that influence us, we influence movies and tv.
Movies that celebrate murder and violence are lapped up. Arnold Schwarchenegger has built a career out of killing hundreds of people with a quip.
Movies don't show the real side of violence.
Ever been in a fight? They're short, nasty and unsightly.
But not in the movies.
Yet a movie that treats it's violence in a deliberately over-the-top manner (such as NBK) is "horrific" and "Too dangerous to show".
Really?
Ok, well what about Silence of The Lambs? Or True Lies? Or James Bond movies where henchmen are killed in a cool pre-credits sequence?
Ah, I get it. You can show violence as long as the perpetrator gets his/her comeuppance.
Right, that's ok then because that always happens in real life as well eh?
Natural Born Killers dares to say "These two kids murder. Why? Because of the effect this century's culture has on you, because of their upbringings with parental abuse, because they are so desensitised to violence that it means nothing".
And that's a no-no.
You can't suggest that society's moral fibre has become eroded, no no. It's the fault of movies and books and music.
Well it's not.
It's because so many parents use tv as a wet-nurse.
Drop kid off at school and let teacher raise it, bring it home and stick in front of the tube with a burger until it falls asleep. Repeat.
And then look shocked when your kid walks into a schoolyard with a machine gun.
Natural Born Killers won't influence people to run out and kill.
It's a brave, stylistic masterpiece of cinema that dares to shove issues down your throat that usually are the domain of Victorian-Ideal newspapers like The Daily Mail.
(Speaking of which, they moved on from Brasseye pretty quick eh?)
If you haven't seen this movie, go get it.
If you're under 18, persuade your parents to let you watch this with them, but watch Oliver Stone being interviewed on the DVD 1st, and they'll understand what NBK is trying to say.
Or go watch Snatch, with comedy murder and caravan fires and dog fights and a russian guy being shot 10-15 times without dying.
Despite The Daily Mail "Ban This Sick Filth" (also with Reservoir Dogs showing now on C4 and there will be a couple of posts about it when it finishes), everyone forgot about the movie and now I can watch this at home.
Adapted (loosely) from the Tarantino script, Oliver Stone took the core of the story and turned it into something else entirely.
1st time I watched this at the cinema, it agitated me a lot.
I don't mean I got indignant, I mean I physically became twitchy and irritable.
When it finished, I came out with a massive headache and was unable to talk to anyone for about an hour.
Simply because this film is a total assault on the senses from start-to-finish.
There are so many film stocks used, 8mm, 16mm, 35mm, digital video, cinecamera, animation, backprojections etc and they're used a hell of a lot. Chuck in frequent subliminals and you begind to approximate the effect watching this on the big screen can have.
I came out and thought it was like trying to watch television, but having a spastic kid flicking channels every 15 seconds or so.
You can never settle back and just watch it, you're constantly on edge and kept rattled by the blinding pace and general chaos of this movie.
And that's the point it's trying to make.
Ironically, for a movie about the numbing effect of media on our culture, it was decried by this country and banned from video.
If you think movies cause violence? Go watch this movie and see that argument blown to pieces in front of you.
Movies do not cause violence, there are violent movies because we are violent.
We've got the cart in front of the horse on this issue and it's become real cloudy with many pseudo-critics stroking their goatees and saying "Hmmm, shocking...would influence someone to kill...terrible".
From the footage of the Menendaz Bros, to OJ Simpson and Rodney King all at the end, we are living in a culture that celebrates violence and serial-killers/mass murderers like they're movie stars.
You can buy t-shirts with Charles Manson's face on.
And for anyone that thinks he's cool?
He organised his group, led by Squeaky Frome, to murder Roman Polanski's girlfriend Sharon Tate (7 months pregnant at the time) and write obscene slogans on her wall in foetal blood in the hopes of sparking a race-war.
Nice guy, I want a t-shirt with his face on.
Hannibal Lecter is one of the most popular characters in movie history. A cannabalistic serial-killer.
I know they're just movies, but why these figures?
And that's what Natural Born Killers is saying:
It's not movies that influence us, we influence movies and tv.
Movies that celebrate murder and violence are lapped up. Arnold Schwarchenegger has built a career out of killing hundreds of people with a quip.
Movies don't show the real side of violence.
Ever been in a fight? They're short, nasty and unsightly.
But not in the movies.
Yet a movie that treats it's violence in a deliberately over-the-top manner (such as NBK) is "horrific" and "Too dangerous to show".
Really?
Ok, well what about Silence of The Lambs? Or True Lies? Or James Bond movies where henchmen are killed in a cool pre-credits sequence?
Ah, I get it. You can show violence as long as the perpetrator gets his/her comeuppance.
Right, that's ok then because that always happens in real life as well eh?
Natural Born Killers dares to say "These two kids murder. Why? Because of the effect this century's culture has on you, because of their upbringings with parental abuse, because they are so desensitised to violence that it means nothing".
And that's a no-no.
You can't suggest that society's moral fibre has become eroded, no no. It's the fault of movies and books and music.
Well it's not.
It's because so many parents use tv as a wet-nurse.
Drop kid off at school and let teacher raise it, bring it home and stick in front of the tube with a burger until it falls asleep. Repeat.
And then look shocked when your kid walks into a schoolyard with a machine gun.
Natural Born Killers won't influence people to run out and kill.
It's a brave, stylistic masterpiece of cinema that dares to shove issues down your throat that usually are the domain of Victorian-Ideal newspapers like The Daily Mail.
(Speaking of which, they moved on from Brasseye pretty quick eh?)
If you haven't seen this movie, go get it.
If you're under 18, persuade your parents to let you watch this with them, but watch Oliver Stone being interviewed on the DVD 1st, and they'll understand what NBK is trying to say.
Or go watch Snatch, with comedy murder and caravan fires and dog fights and a russian guy being shot 10-15 times without dying.
Ah, finally NBK has been released. My dad almost guilted me into getting it on DVD for him, instead of Shrek (which was my brothers' birthday present). However, my next win (assuming I win before January 27th or December 25th) will be for his birthday or Christmas respectively.
Back on topic, NBK is one hell of a film. I first saw it when I 6 or 7 and I didn't really know what to think of it. With strange camera angles and a constantly-changing colour of the screen, it made you wonder if the camerman was high when this was filmed. Technicalities aside, the storyline revolves around too blatant killers, Mickey and Mallory (who later become married and share the name, Nox). There is a twist in the tail though, as they always leave one person alive at the scene of each tale to tell everyone what they saw. Robert Downey Jr stars as the money mad TV show presenter. Just when he thinks he's about to survive at the very end, Mickey and Mallory's pledge to leave someone alive (or in this case, something) comes back and bites him in the posterior - if you know what I mean!
Anywho, I shant say anymore, or I'd end up giving away the entire plot. I strongly suggest that you watch this film, as it's a real barnburner.
Firebalt.
Back on topic, NBK is one hell of a film. I first saw it when I 6 or 7 and I didn't really know what to think of it. With strange camera angles and a constantly-changing colour of the screen, it made you wonder if the camerman was high when this was filmed. Technicalities aside, the storyline revolves around too blatant killers, Mickey and Mallory (who later become married and share the name, Nox). There is a twist in the tail though, as they always leave one person alive at the scene of each tale to tell everyone what they saw. Robert Downey Jr stars as the money mad TV show presenter. Just when he thinks he's about to survive at the very end, Mickey and Mallory's pledge to leave someone alive (or in this case, something) comes back and bites him in the posterior - if you know what I mean!
Anywho, I shant say anymore, or I'd end up giving away the entire plot. I strongly suggest that you watch this film, as it's a real barnburner.
Firebalt.
I only read the last 2 paragraphs as I'm pretty tired (at this time I know) but I just thought I'd reply.
I only saw NBK a few months back after wanting to see it for ages (turns out my local video store had it all the time) and I thought it was really good.
The start was excellent. Woody Harrelson looked surprisingly cool in that white suit and red sun glasses but some of the ways in which it was done were really wierd.
When Mickey and Mallerie (that right?) met for example. It was like a comedy show. Not sure if I missed something there, some other meaning, but as it was, I didn't like that at all.
Overall though, I thought the film was really good. The acting was good from everyone. Woody Harrelson and Robert Downey Jnr in particular.
I heard there is an alternative ending on the DVD as well. True?
I only saw NBK a few months back after wanting to see it for ages (turns out my local video store had it all the time) and I thought it was really good.
The start was excellent. Woody Harrelson looked surprisingly cool in that white suit and red sun glasses but some of the ways in which it was done were really wierd.
When Mickey and Mallerie (that right?) met for example. It was like a comedy show. Not sure if I missed something there, some other meaning, but as it was, I didn't like that at all.
Overall though, I thought the film was really good. The acting was good from everyone. Woody Harrelson and Robert Downey Jnr in particular.
I heard there is an alternative ending on the DVD as well. True?
Well well, at long last this movie is available for me to buy and own.
Despite The Daily Mail "Ban This Sick Filth" (also with Reservoir Dogs showing now on C4 and there will be a couple of posts about it when it finishes), everyone forgot about the movie and now I can watch this at home.
Adapted (loosely) from the Tarantino script, Oliver Stone took the core of the story and turned it into something else entirely.
1st time I watched this at the cinema, it agitated me a lot.
I don't mean I got indignant, I mean I physically became twitchy and irritable.
When it finished, I came out with a massive headache and was unable to talk to anyone for about an hour.
Simply because this film is a total assault on the senses from start-to-finish.
There are so many film stocks used, 8mm, 16mm, 35mm, digital video, cinecamera, animation, backprojections etc and they're used a hell of a lot. Chuck in frequent subliminals and you begind to approximate the effect watching this on the big screen can have.
I came out and thought it was like trying to watch television, but having a spastic kid flicking channels every 15 seconds or so.
You can never settle back and just watch it, you're constantly on edge and kept rattled by the blinding pace and general chaos of this movie.
And that's the point it's trying to make.
Ironically, for a movie about the numbing effect of media on our culture, it was decried by this country and banned from video.
If you think movies cause violence? Go watch this movie and see that argument blown to pieces in front of you.
Movies do not cause violence, there are violent movies because we are violent.
We've got the cart in front of the horse on this issue and it's become real cloudy with many pseudo-critics stroking their goatees and saying "Hmmm, shocking...would influence someone to kill...terrible".
From the footage of the Menendaz Bros, to OJ Simpson and Rodney King all at the end, we are living in a culture that celebrates violence and serial-killers/mass murderers like they're movie stars.
You can buy t-shirts with Charles Manson's face on.
And for anyone that thinks he's cool?
He organised his group, led by Squeaky Frome, to murder Roman Polanski's girlfriend Sharon Tate (7 months pregnant at the time) and write obscene slogans on her wall in foetal blood in the hopes of sparking a race-war.
Nice guy, I want a t-shirt with his face on.
Hannibal Lecter is one of the most popular characters in movie history. A cannabalistic serial-killer.
I know they're just movies, but why these figures?
And that's what Natural Born Killers is saying:
It's not movies that influence us, we influence movies and tv.
Movies that celebrate murder and violence are lapped up. Arnold Schwarchenegger has built a career out of killing hundreds of people with a quip.
Movies don't show the real side of violence.
Ever been in a fight? They're short, nasty and unsightly.
But not in the movies.
Yet a movie that treats it's violence in a deliberately over-the-top manner (such as NBK) is "horrific" and "Too dangerous to show".
Really?
Ok, well what about Silence of The Lambs? Or True Lies? Or James Bond movies where henchmen are killed in a cool pre-credits sequence?
Ah, I get it. You can show violence as long as the perpetrator gets his/her comeuppance.
Right, that's ok then because that always happens in real life as well eh?
Natural Born Killers dares to say "These two kids murder. Why? Because of the effect this century's culture has on you, because of their upbringings with parental abuse, because they are so desensitised to violence that it means nothing".
And that's a no-no.
You can't suggest that society's moral fibre has become eroded, no no. It's the fault of movies and books and music.
Well it's not.
It's because so many parents use tv as a wet-nurse.
Drop kid off at school and let teacher raise it, bring it home and stick in front of the tube with a burger until it falls asleep. Repeat.
And then look shocked when your kid walks into a schoolyard with a machine gun.
Natural Born Killers won't influence people to run out and kill.
It's a brave, stylistic masterpiece of cinema that dares to shove issues down your throat that usually are the domain of Victorian-Ideal newspapers like The Daily Mail.
(Speaking of which, they moved on from Brasseye pretty quick eh?)
If you haven't seen this movie, go get it.
If you're under 18, persuade your parents to let you watch this with them, but watch Oliver Stone being interviewed on the DVD 1st, and they'll understand what NBK is trying to say.
Or go watch Snatch, with comedy murder and caravan fires and dog fights and a russian guy being shot 10-15 times without dying.
Despite The Daily Mail "Ban This Sick Filth" (also with Reservoir Dogs showing now on C4 and there will be a couple of posts about it when it finishes), everyone forgot about the movie and now I can watch this at home.
Adapted (loosely) from the Tarantino script, Oliver Stone took the core of the story and turned it into something else entirely.
1st time I watched this at the cinema, it agitated me a lot.
I don't mean I got indignant, I mean I physically became twitchy and irritable.
When it finished, I came out with a massive headache and was unable to talk to anyone for about an hour.
Simply because this film is a total assault on the senses from start-to-finish.
There are so many film stocks used, 8mm, 16mm, 35mm, digital video, cinecamera, animation, backprojections etc and they're used a hell of a lot. Chuck in frequent subliminals and you begind to approximate the effect watching this on the big screen can have.
I came out and thought it was like trying to watch television, but having a spastic kid flicking channels every 15 seconds or so.
You can never settle back and just watch it, you're constantly on edge and kept rattled by the blinding pace and general chaos of this movie.
And that's the point it's trying to make.
Ironically, for a movie about the numbing effect of media on our culture, it was decried by this country and banned from video.
If you think movies cause violence? Go watch this movie and see that argument blown to pieces in front of you.
Movies do not cause violence, there are violent movies because we are violent.
We've got the cart in front of the horse on this issue and it's become real cloudy with many pseudo-critics stroking their goatees and saying "Hmmm, shocking...would influence someone to kill...terrible".
From the footage of the Menendaz Bros, to OJ Simpson and Rodney King all at the end, we are living in a culture that celebrates violence and serial-killers/mass murderers like they're movie stars.
You can buy t-shirts with Charles Manson's face on.
And for anyone that thinks he's cool?
He organised his group, led by Squeaky Frome, to murder Roman Polanski's girlfriend Sharon Tate (7 months pregnant at the time) and write obscene slogans on her wall in foetal blood in the hopes of sparking a race-war.
Nice guy, I want a t-shirt with his face on.
Hannibal Lecter is one of the most popular characters in movie history. A cannabalistic serial-killer.
I know they're just movies, but why these figures?
And that's what Natural Born Killers is saying:
It's not movies that influence us, we influence movies and tv.
Movies that celebrate murder and violence are lapped up. Arnold Schwarchenegger has built a career out of killing hundreds of people with a quip.
Movies don't show the real side of violence.
Ever been in a fight? They're short, nasty and unsightly.
But not in the movies.
Yet a movie that treats it's violence in a deliberately over-the-top manner (such as NBK) is "horrific" and "Too dangerous to show".
Really?
Ok, well what about Silence of The Lambs? Or True Lies? Or James Bond movies where henchmen are killed in a cool pre-credits sequence?
Ah, I get it. You can show violence as long as the perpetrator gets his/her comeuppance.
Right, that's ok then because that always happens in real life as well eh?
Natural Born Killers dares to say "These two kids murder. Why? Because of the effect this century's culture has on you, because of their upbringings with parental abuse, because they are so desensitised to violence that it means nothing".
And that's a no-no.
You can't suggest that society's moral fibre has become eroded, no no. It's the fault of movies and books and music.
Well it's not.
It's because so many parents use tv as a wet-nurse.
Drop kid off at school and let teacher raise it, bring it home and stick in front of the tube with a burger until it falls asleep. Repeat.
And then look shocked when your kid walks into a schoolyard with a machine gun.
Natural Born Killers won't influence people to run out and kill.
It's a brave, stylistic masterpiece of cinema that dares to shove issues down your throat that usually are the domain of Victorian-Ideal newspapers like The Daily Mail.
(Speaking of which, they moved on from Brasseye pretty quick eh?)
If you haven't seen this movie, go get it.
If you're under 18, persuade your parents to let you watch this with them, but watch Oliver Stone being interviewed on the DVD 1st, and they'll understand what NBK is trying to say.
Or go watch Snatch, with comedy murder and caravan fires and dog fights and a russian guy being shot 10-15 times without dying.