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In the red corner…
The Waterboys will forever be remembered as something of a one hit wonder with the classic ‘You Saw the Whole of the Moon’. However, picking what I presume to be their only album, ‘This is the Sea’ from a bargain bin showed them to have a bit more depth that they’re credited with, exhibiting a reasonably good collection of tracks. Not bad for the ‘80s Chesney Hawks.
In the blue corner…
Boy Sets Fire are at the edge of something.. metalish I suppose, there’s lots of heavy bass and some sore throat – inducing singing, though not to the degree that comes from the room of the weird guy down the hall in my uni block. Regardless, as their New Jersey stylings seep across the UK, everyone who hears them seems to like them, including me, which can only prove that they *have* to be put head to head with a retro act of a coincidentally similar name, and it’s their most recent album ‘Tomorrow Come Today’ that takes a stand.
Round 1 – Tracks
Waterboys – 9
Boy Sets Fire – 12 + bonus track (and a good one that doesn’t have a huge silent gap before it)
1-0 to the new guys.
Round 2 – Killer tracks
Waterboys – The Whole of the Moon, This is the Sea, Don’t Bang the Drum
Boy Sets Fire – Handful of Redemption, Last Year’s Nest, The Bonus Track (it’s actually that good. I think...)
Like last time, this round counts double, as it’s most important. I thought about going with half marks for bonus tracks, but it doesn’t really seem fair, if it’s a killer track it’s a killer track. Points are split for the round, so Boy Sets Fire hold the lead 2-1
Round 3 – Lame tracks
Waterboys – The old guys don’t really hit a bum note, maybe thanks to not having to pad the album out with as many tracks as groups these days
Boy Sets Fire – Sometimes the tracks tend to drift into largely indecipherable styles, which may help cover up the bad tracks, but like their opponents, it seems to be nothing but good stuff here.
Again, no separating the two elemental children, splitting the scores. Overall though, it’s Boy Sets Fire, 2.5 – 1.5
Round 4 – Politics
Waterboys – The political angle only crops up occasionally, notably so in Old England and Don’t Bang the Drum, and it’s more having a pop at peoples’ lameness than pedalling their own ideas
Boy Sets Fire – The political angle is always somewhere to hand, and sits somewhere between Socialism and Michael Mooreism. Nothing too profound though, and they don’t tend to offer much to support their ideas.
And the final score…
Picking a winner for the decisive last round was a tough one, but credit goes to the Waterboys for backing up their arguments, giving them the round on the basis of quality over quantity, and making the final score 2.5 –2.5
That sounds like tie-breaker time, and as we go into one round of overtime, the contest will be decided on an appropriately shallow and meaningless matter…
Overtime – Looks
Waterboys – There’s no denying it, the Waterboys are an ugly bunch. On the album cover singer Mike Scott has his face turned from the camera and veiled by his dodgy hair. Meanwhile on the inlay all 3 members are hidden behind glasses and non-committal lighting.
Boy Sets Fire – When it looked like a shoe-in for the new-boys, the inlay decides to contest otherwise. Despite even less revealing lighting than the Waterboys sheltered behind, it’s clear the band have all suffered their share of beating from the ugly stick.
While they may be slightly less afflicted individually, boasting 5 faces to the Waterboys’ 3 makes it an impossible decision.
Again, there’s just nothing to separate the bands, so at 3 apiece, the contest goes to double overtime and the flick of a coin…
Double Overtime – Lady Luck
Waterboys – Heads
Boy Sets Fire – Tails
The coin goes up…
Tails (though only just). Boy Sets Fire sneak to victory and are officially better than the Waterboys.
Somewhere in writing it, Word must have somehow put the old Round 2 back in after I changed it...
I changed my mind about making the bonus track count half, should have split the round equally.
Somewhere in writing it, Word must have somehow put the
In the red corner…
The Waterboys will forever be remembered as something of a one hit wonder with the classic ‘You Saw the Whole of the Moon’. However, picking what I presume to be their only album, ‘This is the Sea’ from a bargain bin showed them to have a bit more depth that they’re credited with, exhibiting a reasonably good collection of tracks. Not bad for the ‘80s Chesney Hawks.
In the blue corner…
Boy Sets Fire are at the edge of something.. metalish I suppose, there’s lots of heavy bass and some sore throat – inducing singing, though not to the degree that comes from the room of the weird guy down the hall in my uni block. Regardless, as their New Jersey stylings seep across the UK, everyone who hears them seems to like them, including me, which can only prove that they *have* to be put head to head with a retro act of a coincidentally similar name, and it’s their most recent album ‘Tomorrow Come Today’ that takes a stand.
Round 1 – Tracks
Waterboys – 9
Boy Sets Fire – 12 + bonus track (and a good one that doesn’t have a huge silent gap before it)
1-0 to the new guys.
Round 2 – Killer tracks
Waterboys – The Whole of the Moon, This is the Sea, Don’t Bang the Drum
Boy Sets Fire – Handful of Redemption, Last Year’s Nest, The Bonus Track (it’s actually that good. I think...)
Like last time, this round counts double, as it’s most important. I thought about going with half marks for bonus tracks, but it doesn’t really seem fair, if it’s a killer track it’s a killer track. Points are split for the round, so Boy Sets Fire hold the lead 2-1
Round 3 – Lame tracks
Waterboys – The old guys don’t really hit a bum note, maybe thanks to not having to pad the album out with as many tracks as groups these days
Boy Sets Fire – Sometimes the tracks tend to drift into largely indecipherable styles, which may help cover up the bad tracks, but like their opponents, it seems to be nothing but good stuff here.
Again, no separating the two elemental children, splitting the scores. Overall though, it’s Boy Sets Fire, 2.5 – 1.5
Round 4 – Politics
Waterboys – The political angle only crops up occasionally, notably so in Old England and Don’t Bang the Drum, and it’s more having a pop at peoples’ lameness than pedalling their own ideas
Boy Sets Fire – The political angle is always somewhere to hand, and sits somewhere between Socialism and Michael Mooreism. Nothing too profound though, and they don’t tend to offer much to support their ideas.
And the final score…
Picking a winner for the decisive last round was a tough one, but credit goes to the Waterboys for backing up their arguments, giving them the round on the basis of quality over quantity, and making the final score 2.5 –2.5
That sounds like tie-breaker time, and as we go into one round of overtime, the contest will be decided on an appropriately shallow and meaningless matter…
Overtime – Looks
Waterboys – There’s no denying it, the Waterboys are an ugly bunch. On the album cover singer Mike Scott has his face turned from the camera and veiled by his dodgy hair. Meanwhile on the inlay all 3 members are hidden behind glasses and non-committal lighting.
Boy Sets Fire – When it looked like a shoe-in for the new-boys, the inlay decides to contest otherwise. Despite even less revealing lighting than the Waterboys sheltered behind, it’s clear the band have all suffered their share of beating from the ugly stick.
While they may be slightly less afflicted individually, boasting 5 faces to the Waterboys’ 3 makes it an impossible decision.
Again, there’s just nothing to separate the bands, so at 3 apiece, the contest goes to double overtime and the flick of a coin…
Double Overtime – Lady Luck
Waterboys – Heads
Boy Sets Fire – Tails
The coin goes up…
Tails (though only just). Boy Sets Fire sneak to victory and are officially better than the Waterboys.