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Following the failure of "The spirits within" (which lost tens of millions of dollars), Square have been in a bad financial position.
So, it appears that Sony have bought into a large chunk of the company.
Do you think this will affect future game development?
Sonic
So, it appears that Sony have bought into a large chunk of the company.
Do you think this will affect future game development?
Sonic
No Nintendo and square were good friends Nintendo even gave them the right to make a Mario game and Square said sorry FF cant fit on carts but they didnt make anything not anything and that is of course rubbish as FF has been made on carts before.
Stabbed in the back, Nintendo will never forgive Square and damn right too.
Stabbed in the back, Nintendo will never forgive Square and damn right too.
Strafex wrote:
> Nintendo have every right to be annoyed
> and Square know it and are very ashamed of all the stupid pranks they pulled in
> order to try and ensure that the N64 failed.
So Square took an active role in deliberately ensuring N64 failed?
Or they just took there games to what they percieved as the better platform (CD-based) for them?
And I didn't think the N64 was a failure - just not as successful as the PlayStation. Only the Saturn can really be classed as a 'failure'.
> Nintendo have every right to be annoyed
> and Square know it and are very ashamed of all the stupid pranks they pulled in
> order to try and ensure that the N64 failed.
So Square took an active role in deliberately ensuring N64 failed?
Or they just took there games to what they percieved as the better platform (CD-based) for them?
And I didn't think the N64 was a failure - just not as successful as the PlayStation. Only the Saturn can really be classed as a 'failure'.
Where you getting your news from? Story broke about a fortnight ago...
Anyway, there are too many variables to know anything. You'd need to know what sort of shares Sony got - in the highly unlikely event that they are non-voting share, or ones with a restrictive voting balance, then there's nothing to worry about. Also, Square may be in a position where to turn a profit developing for Nintendo may be unavoidable. If the rest of the company go against Sony then there isn't much they can do about it - unless there is some separate deal that resulted in Sony getting the shares. Clearly alluding to an exclusivity/first refusal deal here.
Anyway, there are too many variables to know anything. You'd need to know what sort of shares Sony got - in the highly unlikely event that they are non-voting share, or ones with a restrictive voting balance, then there's nothing to worry about. Also, Square may be in a position where to turn a profit developing for Nintendo may be unavoidable. If the rest of the company go against Sony then there isn't much they can do about it - unless there is some separate deal that resulted in Sony getting the shares. Clearly alluding to an exclusivity/first refusal deal here.
Blistad Fingas wrote:
> The Game wrote:
> If Sony pull Square back, they'll kill them off - and you
> CAN
> quote me!
I didn't mean because of Sony 'pulling them back', I
> meant because of Nintendo's extremely arsey attitude to Square.
Nintendo have every right to be annoyed and Square know it and are very ashamed of all the stupid pranks they pulled in order to try and ensure that the N64 failed.
Square need money after the big film mess up.
They need to devellop on the GBA as a result.
Nintendo only allow them if all the top Square PS2 games arrive on the Gamecube simultaneously.
Sony won't allow that.
Nintendo therefore won't have anything else to do with Square.
So Sony get what they want - exclusive rights to final fantasy.
Nintendo miss out but don't REALLY need them.
Square are left blue because they're unable to devellop mass money making titles for the GBA.
They said that they can manage on just the PS2 but it'll take them much longer to recover and their devellopment will be cut back as a result.
> The Game wrote:
> If Sony pull Square back, they'll kill them off - and you
> CAN
> quote me!
I didn't mean because of Sony 'pulling them back', I
> meant because of Nintendo's extremely arsey attitude to Square.
Nintendo have every right to be annoyed and Square know it and are very ashamed of all the stupid pranks they pulled in order to try and ensure that the N64 failed.
Square need money after the big film mess up.
They need to devellop on the GBA as a result.
Nintendo only allow them if all the top Square PS2 games arrive on the Gamecube simultaneously.
Sony won't allow that.
Nintendo therefore won't have anything else to do with Square.
So Sony get what they want - exclusive rights to final fantasy.
Nintendo miss out but don't REALLY need them.
Square are left blue because they're unable to devellop mass money making titles for the GBA.
They said that they can manage on just the PS2 but it'll take them much longer to recover and their devellopment will be cut back as a result.
Before the sprits within was even released, Id been hearing reports that Square wast, financially at least, looking all that perky?
Asias Imagine?
Asias Imagine?
The Game wrote:
> If Sony pull Square back, they'll kill them off - and you CAN
> quote me!
I didn't mean because of Sony 'pulling them back', I meant because of Nintendo's extremely arsey attitude to Square.
> If Sony pull Square back, they'll kill them off - and you CAN
> quote me!
I didn't mean because of Sony 'pulling them back', I meant because of Nintendo's extremely arsey attitude to Square.
Sony buying 19% of Square isn't the end for Nintendo.... it just means that Nintendo have to buy about a 25% share to win sSquare over... the thing is, Square are in real trouble if Nintendo say no to Square + GBA AND if Nintendo blow off FFXI...
Square are a VERY talented company, no doubt about it, but Nintendo are bigger... if Nintendo don't want Square they don't have to have them... sure Final Fantasy XI would be a nice addition to any 'Cuber's collection, but still... with Skies of Arcadia 1 and 2, From Softwares RPG, Starfox and Zelda Nintendo won't be short of RPG's... Square need to offer more than just Final Fantasy and maybe more than Chrono Trigger and FF put together!!
If Sony pull Square back, they'll kill them off - and you CAN quote me!
Game
Square are a VERY talented company, no doubt about it, but Nintendo are bigger... if Nintendo don't want Square they don't have to have them... sure Final Fantasy XI would be a nice addition to any 'Cuber's collection, but still... with Skies of Arcadia 1 and 2, From Softwares RPG, Starfox and Zelda Nintendo won't be short of RPG's... Square need to offer more than just Final Fantasy and maybe more than Chrono Trigger and FF put together!!
If Sony pull Square back, they'll kill them off - and you CAN quote me!
Game
Probably confirms that Nintendo will never, ever work with Square again!
Following the failure of "The spirits within" (which lost tens of millions of dollars), Square have been in a bad financial position.
So, it appears that Sony have bought into a large chunk of the company.
Do you think this will affect future game development?
Sonic
So, it appears that Sony have bought into a large chunk of the company.
Do you think this will affect future game development?
Sonic