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Mon 22/10/01 at 01:26
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Posts: 787
Nope, for once I'm not droning about the state of the world and why people are stupid.
This is about me ignoring a game because I thought I knew what it would be like.
First some backstory, so you'll understand my reluctance for the recently purchased game:

A few months ago I bought a game called Desperados on the PC.
It looked pretty cool, cowboys and mexicans strategy kind of thing.
You had to complete levels using members of your team, avoiding the enemy's line of sight (indicated by a coloured cone) and trying not to make noise etc etc.
A task to be completed to finish the level, with much sneaking about and planning.
Pretty good I thought.
But I was wrong. It smoked ponies.

You could never use your gun, because they heard you and shot you to pieces. You basically spent 40 mins lying on the floor waiting for someone to look the opposite way before running past them and hiding somewhere else.
Godawful game, hated it and refused to play it after 3 days of getting really angry at it.

And then I start to read about Commandos 2: Men of Courage.
It's a team/squad action adventure strategy thing.
Different members of your team, avoiding enemys by staying out of their line of sight (indicated by a coloured cone)...are we seeing any similarites here?
Read the reviews and they all spoke about it being hard and spending ages lying in wait for the people to pass.

And Goatboy thought "Uh-huh, well I'll pass on that then, I don't want another Desperados experience".
It's the same game idea, same conception, same tactics, you can even used the female character to distract the soliders with seduction (original eh?).
So Commandos 2 came out and I ignored it.
Didn't pay it any attention and was glad I spared myself the agony and frustration of another annoying wasted game.

Then one Sunday I was bored and wandered around the computer store.
And I bought Commandos 2.
Why? Why did I do this? Subject myself to another brain-wrong?
I hated Desperados and this was the same thing.
Well I was bored ok? Can we just move on now?
Thanks.

So I got it home and installed it, loaded up and played the initial training mission and thought "Yep, this is the same thing. This sucks and I just wasted £35. What a tool"
But I tried it again, and realised I could lay mines on the road for the Nazis to blow themselves up on when the ran over chasing me.
This is pretty cool.
Then I found you can set a trap with 1 Commando by laying in wait with your rifle ready, a nice little zone of death for when they come round the corner.
What? You can actually use a gun on this? This isn't like Desperados. Not bad.
Played the 1st mission and you can swim, climb, hide, shoot, grenade, flame-throw, cut wires, snipe...do anything you want to, and you are expected to shoot and maim the Nazis.

No hiding for 40 minutes, no fear of using guns in case you get heard. You are encouraged to be mental with weapons and eliminate as many as possible.

In short, Commandos 2 rocks.
It is everything Desperados is not. Namely fun to play.
It is hard, but it is not frustrating.
There is always a way to do the level, you just haven't seen it yet.
If you like action games, get Commandos 2.
If you like strategy games, get Commandos 2.
If you like to lob grendades through windows and watch them fly about the room like big puppets on fire, get Commandos 2.

It is not annoying to the point of inducing tears or red-faced screaming at the computer.
It is not boring or crap.
It rocks the casbah.
Mon 22/10/01 at 01:42
Regular
"Wasting away"
Posts: 2,230
I hope you say around to listen to my POV. I loved the first version of Commandos and although I never got past the second level it was still something far different from the rest. Commandos 2 on the other hand is something that is hard, not impossible and very satisfying.

Thrilled to win it for my GAD, more thrilled to play it and now even more thrilled to be on the last level I have wen from level to level shooting, stabbing, swimming, climbing, flying, diving and hiding.

I see what you mean though, you get that feeling towards game without even playing on them, I did a long post about it in Prime called Reputations which follows the same patteren. Nice post and keep playing until you complete it on Very Hard. Oh and last thing, I found this one was perhaps too esay on Medium but then thank God for difficulty levels.
Mon 22/10/01 at 01:26
Regular
"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Nope, for once I'm not droning about the state of the world and why people are stupid.
This is about me ignoring a game because I thought I knew what it would be like.
First some backstory, so you'll understand my reluctance for the recently purchased game:

A few months ago I bought a game called Desperados on the PC.
It looked pretty cool, cowboys and mexicans strategy kind of thing.
You had to complete levels using members of your team, avoiding the enemy's line of sight (indicated by a coloured cone) and trying not to make noise etc etc.
A task to be completed to finish the level, with much sneaking about and planning.
Pretty good I thought.
But I was wrong. It smoked ponies.

You could never use your gun, because they heard you and shot you to pieces. You basically spent 40 mins lying on the floor waiting for someone to look the opposite way before running past them and hiding somewhere else.
Godawful game, hated it and refused to play it after 3 days of getting really angry at it.

And then I start to read about Commandos 2: Men of Courage.
It's a team/squad action adventure strategy thing.
Different members of your team, avoiding enemys by staying out of their line of sight (indicated by a coloured cone)...are we seeing any similarites here?
Read the reviews and they all spoke about it being hard and spending ages lying in wait for the people to pass.

And Goatboy thought "Uh-huh, well I'll pass on that then, I don't want another Desperados experience".
It's the same game idea, same conception, same tactics, you can even used the female character to distract the soliders with seduction (original eh?).
So Commandos 2 came out and I ignored it.
Didn't pay it any attention and was glad I spared myself the agony and frustration of another annoying wasted game.

Then one Sunday I was bored and wandered around the computer store.
And I bought Commandos 2.
Why? Why did I do this? Subject myself to another brain-wrong?
I hated Desperados and this was the same thing.
Well I was bored ok? Can we just move on now?
Thanks.

So I got it home and installed it, loaded up and played the initial training mission and thought "Yep, this is the same thing. This sucks and I just wasted £35. What a tool"
But I tried it again, and realised I could lay mines on the road for the Nazis to blow themselves up on when the ran over chasing me.
This is pretty cool.
Then I found you can set a trap with 1 Commando by laying in wait with your rifle ready, a nice little zone of death for when they come round the corner.
What? You can actually use a gun on this? This isn't like Desperados. Not bad.
Played the 1st mission and you can swim, climb, hide, shoot, grenade, flame-throw, cut wires, snipe...do anything you want to, and you are expected to shoot and maim the Nazis.

No hiding for 40 minutes, no fear of using guns in case you get heard. You are encouraged to be mental with weapons and eliminate as many as possible.

In short, Commandos 2 rocks.
It is everything Desperados is not. Namely fun to play.
It is hard, but it is not frustrating.
There is always a way to do the level, you just haven't seen it yet.
If you like action games, get Commandos 2.
If you like strategy games, get Commandos 2.
If you like to lob grendades through windows and watch them fly about the room like big puppets on fire, get Commandos 2.

It is not annoying to the point of inducing tears or red-faced screaming at the computer.
It is not boring or crap.
It rocks the casbah.

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