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Ok, my band has been in "negotiations" with a couple of labels.
Which means their A&R guys ignore us until someone else makes a move, and then they come and say "Yeah, we really think you guys are good"
Right, whatever you say mate. Nice pony-nub you got there.
Aaaaanyway, the guy who owns the recording studio we did our EPs at was chatting to a guy and blah blah blah, trying to set us up with some deals and this guy he was talking to is called a "Plugger"
Now, a plugger is the person that gets your CD to the radio stations and videos to TOTP and eMpTyV etc.
And this guy can, at the cost of £1,000 per week for 6 weeks get your CD A-listed at Radio 1 (A-listed means you get played on every show through the day for 2 weeks), and the video put onto MTV at least once a day on prime time.
Now you might think that £6,000 is a lot of money.
It is, but if you're a record label, it's nothing if that means your band is played on Radio 1 and MTV throughout the day for 2 weeks.
That means a lot of people are going to hear that song and there's a good chance it will get bought.
Couple that with TV appearances (£1,5000 for a Saturday morning appearance on Ant & Dec) means for some money, you can get big exposure.
Which indicates and basically proves that the stuff on Radio 1 and MTV is there because the label paid for it to be there.
And that means everyone will hear and see you and therefore you are "big" and sell.
But it's whether you have the songs that cut it, you can get by on money for only so long (Cleopatra anyone?).
So alls Parker has to do is get hold of about £10,000 and we'll be all over the place.
But at least that means I can't get annoyed at the mainstream radio playing crap, because they paid to be ther.
It's no indication of what people are buying or what people like.
Which means their A&R guys ignore us until someone else makes a move, and then they come and say "Yeah, we really think you guys are good"
Right, whatever you say mate. Nice pony-nub you got there.
Aaaaanyway, the guy who owns the recording studio we did our EPs at was chatting to a guy and blah blah blah, trying to set us up with some deals and this guy he was talking to is called a "Plugger"
Now, a plugger is the person that gets your CD to the radio stations and videos to TOTP and eMpTyV etc.
And this guy can, at the cost of £1,000 per week for 6 weeks get your CD A-listed at Radio 1 (A-listed means you get played on every show through the day for 2 weeks), and the video put onto MTV at least once a day on prime time.
Now you might think that £6,000 is a lot of money.
It is, but if you're a record label, it's nothing if that means your band is played on Radio 1 and MTV throughout the day for 2 weeks.
That means a lot of people are going to hear that song and there's a good chance it will get bought.
Couple that with TV appearances (£1,5000 for a Saturday morning appearance on Ant & Dec) means for some money, you can get big exposure.
Which indicates and basically proves that the stuff on Radio 1 and MTV is there because the label paid for it to be there.
And that means everyone will hear and see you and therefore you are "big" and sell.
But it's whether you have the songs that cut it, you can get by on money for only so long (Cleopatra anyone?).
So alls Parker has to do is get hold of about £10,000 and we'll be all over the place.
But at least that means I can't get annoyed at the mainstream radio playing crap, because they paid to be ther.
It's no indication of what people are buying or what people like.
Hmmm...
Is it actually possible to ring Radio 1 or something? In reality it would make more sense to ring Radio 1 constantly to make them put a record on, that to try and make loads of people buy it... Hopefully they'll give in to demand, and play the song quite a bit.
I expect they don't have phonelines, mind.
(They have email addresses though.)
Ah yeah. Simple as that. You get the single out, and we'll pee off Radio one. ;0)
Is it actually possible to ring Radio 1 or something? In reality it would make more sense to ring Radio 1 constantly to make them put a record on, that to try and make loads of people buy it... Hopefully they'll give in to demand, and play the song quite a bit.
I expect they don't have phonelines, mind.
(They have email addresses though.)
Ah yeah. Simple as that. You get the single out, and we'll pee off Radio one. ;0)
Goatboy wrote:
> I'm an egotistical arrogant ponce now, so I don't see how anything could change
> me.
Damn right.
> I'm an egotistical arrogant ponce now, so I don't see how anything could change
> me.
Damn right.
I'm an egotistical arrogant ponce now, so I don't see how anything could change me.
So don't worry, I'll be exactly the same whatever happens.
So don't worry, I'll be exactly the same whatever happens.
Goatboy, good luck with getting a single out there. Whatever you do, don't let fame change you like it has so many before it.
I'm still waiting to see the full version of events on the burning of £1,000,000.. It might have rocked at the time, but it really seems to have played on Drummond's mind.
KLF rocked.
I'm reading a book about Creation Records (and if Oasis didn't come along, they would have sunk long ago, Alan McGee comes off as a chancer fool with zero business sense).
McGee signed Bill Drummond from his A&R Job and Drummond formed The Justified Ancients of Mu-Mu, later the KLF.
Drummond knows his stuff and cheers for recommending this book sir, I'm going to that link now.
Chart Music shouldn't be counted as music, regardless of "pop" bands or not, it should be the same as "Well McDonald's did 35% turnover profit last week with McNuggets and Warner did a 27% with Geri Halliwell".
Ah well, 2002 "The year of the my band"
I'm reading a book about Creation Records (and if Oasis didn't come along, they would have sunk long ago, Alan McGee comes off as a chancer fool with zero business sense).
McGee signed Bill Drummond from his A&R Job and Drummond formed The Justified Ancients of Mu-Mu, later the KLF.
Drummond knows his stuff and cheers for recommending this book sir, I'm going to that link now.
Chart Music shouldn't be counted as music, regardless of "pop" bands or not, it should be the same as "Well McDonald's did 35% turnover profit last week with McNuggets and Warner did a 27% with Geri Halliwell".
Ah well, 2002 "The year of the my band"
The charts are even more shallow than that Goaty.. The charts are entirely dictated by what the stores will stock. Places like Woolworths, WHSmiths, the supermarkets, etc are all stocked by one distributor of singles that refuses to supply many singles which include swearing for instance. Hence the introduction of bleeping and Parental Advisory stickers, purely so singles will get into the shops. Coupled with this is the policy of some labels to operate a buy-back policy on unsold singles. Essentially they flood record shops with copies of the single (ever seen a 10ft display of Geri Halliwell singles?) and so your record looks like the number one it's going to be.
If you want a really cynical look into the world of the single read "The Manual" by the KLF. They actually got a number one as well. Here's a brief excerpt:
"Radio One operates a playlist system. All the producers meet on a Monday, listen to the new releases and discuss which ones should go on or come off their playlist. The playlist is divided into A, B and C Lists. Records on the A List are the ones that get played on what seems like every day time show, but in reality rarely more than twenty times a week. B listed records are ones that the producers are recommended to script in the shows; these can end up getting as many as fourteen plays in a week, more than many A Listed records. A record on the C List is one that can be considered for scripting; more down to the individual producer or D.J.
And of course Radio One has its usual quota of Golden Oldies, album track spots and request slots that take a fair chunk of the day's needle time. The fact that your record may not have gone straight on the A List should not bother you unduly. Our record spent only one week on the A List - the week we were at Number One. When we entered at Number 22 we were not even on the C List. Other records can go straight on the A List, get played to death and still do nothing chart wise.
In the life of most Number One records all this radio play and playlist stuff would have been off and running at least a week earlier, but because you are not a name act, a heavy weight record label (or even a slim trim indie with good track record) nobody up at Radio One is taking your record that seriously - even though they like it."
The books available to buy with a money back guarantee if you haven't got a number one within 3 months of buying it and following the instructions to the letter. If you're interested the full version is on:
http://klf.life.eu.org/Misc/the-manual.txt
But it doesn't have the foreword and afterthought by its authors, which you get in the book.
If you want a really cynical look into the world of the single read "The Manual" by the KLF. They actually got a number one as well. Here's a brief excerpt:
"Radio One operates a playlist system. All the producers meet on a Monday, listen to the new releases and discuss which ones should go on or come off their playlist. The playlist is divided into A, B and C Lists. Records on the A List are the ones that get played on what seems like every day time show, but in reality rarely more than twenty times a week. B listed records are ones that the producers are recommended to script in the shows; these can end up getting as many as fourteen plays in a week, more than many A Listed records. A record on the C List is one that can be considered for scripting; more down to the individual producer or D.J.
And of course Radio One has its usual quota of Golden Oldies, album track spots and request slots that take a fair chunk of the day's needle time. The fact that your record may not have gone straight on the A List should not bother you unduly. Our record spent only one week on the A List - the week we were at Number One. When we entered at Number 22 we were not even on the C List. Other records can go straight on the A List, get played to death and still do nothing chart wise.
In the life of most Number One records all this radio play and playlist stuff would have been off and running at least a week earlier, but because you are not a name act, a heavy weight record label (or even a slim trim indie with good track record) nobody up at Radio One is taking your record that seriously - even though they like it."
The books available to buy with a money back guarantee if you haven't got a number one within 3 months of buying it and following the instructions to the letter. If you're interested the full version is on:
http://klf.life.eu.org/Misc/the-manual.txt
But it doesn't have the foreword and afterthought by its authors, which you get in the book.
Any MP3s Goaty? Eh? eh?
EH?
EH?
I've always thought it was like that, there's no way some of that stuff could ever me considered good.
Anyway, good luk with the career. What's your band called? Any chance of an MP3 to sample?
Anyway, good luk with the career. What's your band called? Any chance of an MP3 to sample?
Ok, my band has been in "negotiations" with a couple of labels.
Which means their A&R guys ignore us until someone else makes a move, and then they come and say "Yeah, we really think you guys are good"
Right, whatever you say mate. Nice pony-nub you got there.
Aaaaanyway, the guy who owns the recording studio we did our EPs at was chatting to a guy and blah blah blah, trying to set us up with some deals and this guy he was talking to is called a "Plugger"
Now, a plugger is the person that gets your CD to the radio stations and videos to TOTP and eMpTyV etc.
And this guy can, at the cost of £1,000 per week for 6 weeks get your CD A-listed at Radio 1 (A-listed means you get played on every show through the day for 2 weeks), and the video put onto MTV at least once a day on prime time.
Now you might think that £6,000 is a lot of money.
It is, but if you're a record label, it's nothing if that means your band is played on Radio 1 and MTV throughout the day for 2 weeks.
That means a lot of people are going to hear that song and there's a good chance it will get bought.
Couple that with TV appearances (£1,5000 for a Saturday morning appearance on Ant & Dec) means for some money, you can get big exposure.
Which indicates and basically proves that the stuff on Radio 1 and MTV is there because the label paid for it to be there.
And that means everyone will hear and see you and therefore you are "big" and sell.
But it's whether you have the songs that cut it, you can get by on money for only so long (Cleopatra anyone?).
So alls Parker has to do is get hold of about £10,000 and we'll be all over the place.
But at least that means I can't get annoyed at the mainstream radio playing crap, because they paid to be ther.
It's no indication of what people are buying or what people like.
Which means their A&R guys ignore us until someone else makes a move, and then they come and say "Yeah, we really think you guys are good"
Right, whatever you say mate. Nice pony-nub you got there.
Aaaaanyway, the guy who owns the recording studio we did our EPs at was chatting to a guy and blah blah blah, trying to set us up with some deals and this guy he was talking to is called a "Plugger"
Now, a plugger is the person that gets your CD to the radio stations and videos to TOTP and eMpTyV etc.
And this guy can, at the cost of £1,000 per week for 6 weeks get your CD A-listed at Radio 1 (A-listed means you get played on every show through the day for 2 weeks), and the video put onto MTV at least once a day on prime time.
Now you might think that £6,000 is a lot of money.
It is, but if you're a record label, it's nothing if that means your band is played on Radio 1 and MTV throughout the day for 2 weeks.
That means a lot of people are going to hear that song and there's a good chance it will get bought.
Couple that with TV appearances (£1,5000 for a Saturday morning appearance on Ant & Dec) means for some money, you can get big exposure.
Which indicates and basically proves that the stuff on Radio 1 and MTV is there because the label paid for it to be there.
And that means everyone will hear and see you and therefore you are "big" and sell.
But it's whether you have the songs that cut it, you can get by on money for only so long (Cleopatra anyone?).
So alls Parker has to do is get hold of about £10,000 and we'll be all over the place.
But at least that means I can't get annoyed at the mainstream radio playing crap, because they paid to be ther.
It's no indication of what people are buying or what people like.