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Fri 19/10/01 at 12:44
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It's strange, consoles today. When you look at the Megadrive and Snes, apart from the machines having more power and cash thrown at them, they are basically the same. A box with the kit in it, a pad to interact with it, and a game you stick in the top/front of it. Throughout the history of gaming, though, there have been a few attempts to do things differently, and though there were obvious reasons for them not catching on, you do wonder what they would be capable of if they went through the development and innovation theat the straight consoles have had.

Hologram time traveller. Remember that? A Sega machine, (I think), it was this massive drum with a glass top that projected holograms of cowboys. It was pants. Noone really played it, and it died a death. A shame really, imagine how home consoles could be if it took off?

Imagine having a console with a hologram projector built into the top. Tekken would never be the same, you would really fight the characters, and keep track of lifebars and the like from the also-linked TV. RPGs would be fantastic, walking around the words yourself rather than controlling a character. FPS? Just imagine!

Virtual Reality machines. When these came out everyone was impressed, until they actualy played one. The graphics were minimal to say the least, but with current processing power, what could they do?

The military have the monopoly on this one with their flight sims and war sims. Theres a RAF camp mear me that has recently spent 2 million smackers on 6 flight sims, and from pics in the paper and a bit on Tomorrows world, it is state of the art. But with home machines more powerful than the supercomputers of yesteryear, VR would have the potential to represent world that could be signed off as real places, not photo quality like that episode of Red Dwarf, but not like it was. All game genres could be covered, and made into the unique experience that people long for with every new generation of technology.

It's a shame about VR, it was brought to the public before it's time. The graphics wern't anywhere near the graphics on TV screens, and people wernt interested. The Graphics on the Hologram game were stunning, but the game was pants and on that, the tech never made it. Buy just think how it could have been....

Slave.
Fri 19/10/01 at 23:10
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As PB might remember, I wrote something along these lines 6 months ago and moaned really loadly when hardly anyone read it!

;-D

One idea that came up was that what if holograms could be projected onto your living room floor, and if the machine could scan your room so that the game interacted with objects.

Guide Mario across settee's and coffee tables in order to reach the curtains....

Also, you'd be able to custom design your own arena and things like that.

As for VR, I doubt that it'll go very far as you can still only control your movements through a gamepad and that sort of messes up the atmosphere a bit.

I think that gaming N-Chip/Matrix style is the future...
Fri 19/10/01 at 21:14
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CDs were something released ahead of their time.

Commodore (they made the Amiga)released it as an add-on for the Amiga, before the CD-32, but it never took off until a while later. Although I'm a bit cloudy on this subject... so there might be a few mistakes here.
Fri 19/10/01 at 19:44
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It didn't take off when it first came out because it was pants, pants graphics, games etc etc.

Now... Old ideas are being used for the current world. VR is going to be a thing of the future, I can tell :D

Vr was released was before its time. Along with some other things like... Hmm brains gone :D
Fri 19/10/01 at 16:34
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Starlight wrote:
On a lighter note which epsisode of Red Dwarf
> would that be then? The one where they was in "Pride and Predjudice
> times?'

That episode was called Beyond a Joke by the way, the one with Pride and Predjudice Land. Twas co-written by Robert Lewellyn actually...
Fri 19/10/01 at 16:32
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Slaveunit wrote:
> It was the Red dwarf that was when they were in the starbog and it crashed, and
> then all of a sudden it flashed Game Over, and they returned to their lives, and
> Cat was Dwayne Dibley and Rimmer was a tramp. Then they realised that it was
> infact some thing trying to make them believe that, i can't remember it
> all.....

Starbog, lol!

That episode was actually called 'Back To Reality'

They got attacked by the Despair Squid who's defence was an ink that induced despair on it's victims, driving them to suicide. Eventually Holly managed to get through to Kryten and ordered him to spray all the gang with a fire extinguisher, which was actually a canister of Lithium Carbonate, A mood stabilizer, just before they all shot themselves with a harpoon gun.
Tim Spall guest starred as Andy who's favourite phrase was "Twonk"

:-D
Fri 19/10/01 at 16:27
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I remember now, the episode I was thinking of was pretty much the same as that one Virtual Reality wise.
Fri 19/10/01 at 15:25
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It was the Red dwarf that was when they were in the starbog and it crashed, and then all of a sudden it flashed Game Over, and they returned to their lives, and Cat was Dwayne Dibley and Rimmer was a tramp. Then they realised that it was infact some thing trying to make them believe that, i can't remember it all.....
Fri 19/10/01 at 15:19
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I still think VR is going to be popular in the future and maybe some sort of VR machine where we can play different games, like how we buy them now for our consoles only it will be for a VR machine.

Maybe one day this will happen only with stunning graphics, now that would be something! I can't really comment on the holograms because I can't remember that but I can't see that making a comeback anytime soon.

On a lighter note which epsisode of Red Dwarf would that be then? The one where they was in "Pride and Predjudice times?' If so then that WOULD be something special if it was like that in the future but unfortunately thats not going to appen in the near future.

I'm happy with my consoles at the moment.

The VR 'wars' hmmmmmmmm :-)
Fri 19/10/01 at 12:44
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It's strange, consoles today. When you look at the Megadrive and Snes, apart from the machines having more power and cash thrown at them, they are basically the same. A box with the kit in it, a pad to interact with it, and a game you stick in the top/front of it. Throughout the history of gaming, though, there have been a few attempts to do things differently, and though there were obvious reasons for them not catching on, you do wonder what they would be capable of if they went through the development and innovation theat the straight consoles have had.

Hologram time traveller. Remember that? A Sega machine, (I think), it was this massive drum with a glass top that projected holograms of cowboys. It was pants. Noone really played it, and it died a death. A shame really, imagine how home consoles could be if it took off?

Imagine having a console with a hologram projector built into the top. Tekken would never be the same, you would really fight the characters, and keep track of lifebars and the like from the also-linked TV. RPGs would be fantastic, walking around the words yourself rather than controlling a character. FPS? Just imagine!

Virtual Reality machines. When these came out everyone was impressed, until they actualy played one. The graphics were minimal to say the least, but with current processing power, what could they do?

The military have the monopoly on this one with their flight sims and war sims. Theres a RAF camp mear me that has recently spent 2 million smackers on 6 flight sims, and from pics in the paper and a bit on Tomorrows world, it is state of the art. But with home machines more powerful than the supercomputers of yesteryear, VR would have the potential to represent world that could be signed off as real places, not photo quality like that episode of Red Dwarf, but not like it was. All game genres could be covered, and made into the unique experience that people long for with every new generation of technology.

It's a shame about VR, it was brought to the public before it's time. The graphics wern't anywhere near the graphics on TV screens, and people wernt interested. The Graphics on the Hologram game were stunning, but the game was pants and on that, the tech never made it. Buy just think how it could have been....

Slave.

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