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Tue 16/10/01 at 20:28
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I was just watching Gattaca a few nights ago (before my VCR decided to destroy it and tear the tape to bits) when I started to think what the best music score was in a film.

Recently (and I mean Cinema recent), it has got to be A.I. The music in that was fabulous. John Williams is a genius. I always new he was good but this soundtrack has completely renewed my faith in him.

Basically, a film needs a good music score. Without music, a film just wouldnít be the same.

If I use a Gattaca to support my point for a moment - There are plenty of scenes in that which have (and need) the main theme playing in the background. Take the swimming scene for example. Imagine Vincent saying to his brother, ìI never saved anything for the swim backî. Imagine him saying that without the music playing over the top. It just wouldnít have the same impact.

Music can do anything in a film. It can make the audience feel sad or happy, it can make a moment incredibly corny. Almost anything needed, music can provide.

So, weíve (or Iíve :-) ) established that music is an important part of a film. But who are the people who bring us the music?

Iíve already mentioned John Williams, but who else? The first that springs to mind is of course, Hans Zimmer. He did the music for Gladiator, M:I-2, Crimson Tide, Rain Man, Hannibal and countless other titles. All of these soundtracks are good and all are very different (with the exception of M:I-2 which was just a rip-off of Gladiator ñ getting paid for two jobs when only having done one, tut tut).

It must be very difficult for a composer to make music for a film. They see the film and they have to come up with a main theme (sufficiently different from their last project, Hans :-)).

The first 3 things I look for when I see a movie poster are the actors, the director and who composed the music. Now Iím not saying that Iíd go see a film simply because the music was done by say, John Williams but I like to know anyway just so I know whether to expect a quality soundtrack, or a pants one. :-)

For me, music is extremely important in a film. It gives it that extra touch.

So, what is the best soundtrack in a film? At present Iíd have to go with Gattaca. It may not be the best but it is my favourite as I love listning to it. (Although I was greatly impressed with the score in A.I.)

(Special thanks to John Williams and Michael Nyman for making this topic possible. It has helped greatly to listen to the music from Gattaca and A.I while writing this.) :-)

Yes, pity me if you will, I downloaded the music from both films. But hey, I guess that just proves how much I like them both. :-)
Sat 20/10/01 at 13:17
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Give me a minute and I'll think of a witty comeback. :-)
Sat 20/10/01 at 13:06
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Oops, ok i'll stand by my opinion, but i'll allow you to stand somewhere else
Sat 20/10/01 at 12:53
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Gonna Fly Now was good but here's a word of advice Tarrant. Don't ever tell a man with nunchuks what's what!

:-)
Sat 20/10/01 at 12:42
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Surely "Gonna fly now" by Bill Conti (Known by most as "the theme from Rocky") is the finest piece of awe inspiring music to appear in any film throughout cinematic history.

You can disagree all you want, but I AM right.
Sat 20/10/01 at 12:35
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Jerry Goldsmith's are usually good but they are usually very similar to the Voyager theme he did. Mind you the only one I can think of now that sounds like Voyager is Air Force One.

Elliot Goldenthial did Heat and that was quality. He also did Sphere which wasn't bad. Can't think of any more he's done though.

Trevor Rabin has done some quality themes as well. Enemy of the State, Deep Blue Sea (perhaps a bit too similar to Jaws) and let's not forget Armageddon. He managed to make the corniest score ever for that film. Let's all give him a round of applause.

:-)
Fri 19/10/01 at 21:10
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Danny Elfman usually makes a good score: The Nightmare before Christmas, Beetleguese, Batman (not the prince parts), Men in Black, Simpsons theme tune.......... .
There are others too but I can't remember them all.
Thu 18/10/01 at 22:27
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Empire magazine have got a fanatastic free CD with movie soundtracks this month. Includes Soggy Bottom Boys, Jaws and the like. Well worth £3.00 of anyones money.
Thu 18/10/01 at 22:14
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I mean scoring. Anyone can choose a song and play it over the top of a scene.

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Thu 18/10/01 at 00:36
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Do you mean music or scoring though? Music is incidental, scoring is fused with the movie - so almost by definition a good score won't stand out as it needs, most importantly, good acting and dialogue to raise to the emotional standard of the score so that it doesn't seem excessive.
Wed 17/10/01 at 22:23
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Dr Gonzo wrote:

I've got loads of Soundtracks (Almost Famous and
> O Brother Where Art Thou the favourites of receint years), but never both with
> scores. To be honest, I'm not even bothered enough about them to ever seperate
> them from the movie in my head - I think this is the same for pretty much
> everybody. A good movie needs a good score - but a good score will go totally
> unnoticed in a rubbish movie.



I disagree. Even if a movie is pretty poor, I think I'd still recognise whether or not the music was good.

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