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I don't want the Cube to die. Obvious sentiment I know. But at the moment I can't but help feel bleak for the future of my beloved Cube (No. I am. Not. Sad). Codemasters and Acclaim have dropped their support due to low profits, and seemingly everywhere I look, I see 'on PC, PS2 and XBox'. Eg. Mafia, a title that could really help the Cube, has been cancelled. Why? WHY??!
I was watching my brother playing Zelda earlier. I really don't want to see this on Xbox 2 or PS3. It just will not be the same (if the worst happens). I want to play the next Zelda on my Cube, or if not that, the next console from Nintendo. I was also reading the latest GamesTM at the same time. 'Publishers deserting Cube' and the like. Sure, two companies, with about two strong francises each (Collin McCrae, LMA Manager, Burnout, Turok - arguably) harldy count as 'publishers deserting'. Well technicly it does, but not in the larger sense. Now I know the Cube has a future for me. But that is unfortunatly not the important factor. The important factor, in terms of Nintendo carrying on as a hardware manufacturer, is if the Cube has a future with the market.
Then we get onto all the usual. Marketing, idiot mongrels who buy rubbish on the (in my opinion) terrible PS2, and the decent-er (er...) Xbox. Nintendo not doing enough etc. Sure Nintendo have to pull their fingers out, and reducing royalty rates is a good step, but they also need to quite simply, *blitz* the market. With power. In a similar XBox style way, make their next step cover all bases with enough power, even if online (for example) is not Nintendos main focus - making it available still appeals. Same for DVD, hard drive, stupidly powerful hardware etc. Basicly, the XBox did this because it had to break into the market, and the results speak for themselves. So, on the next step, Nintendo need to (although they won't) blast the new console everywhere, with so many features and ideas and power that it simply looks cool. Although I will not be happy if it has to have BB connections and also acts as your fridge.
But, back to the current situation, the current Gamecube. The release list simpky wonderful (www.cube-europe.com/releases.php) with some real gems in there. But once again Nintendo are stuck in a rut. They are making lots of moolah. Good. They are making lots of wonderful (easily better than anything else the other consoles have) games, and have many bright prospects (Starcraft: Ghost, Billy Hatcher, Geist, POP: SOT, the next Metroird, Mario 128, the next Ridge Racer, FF:CC etc....) but its that indefinable thing, where Nintendo just get bad coverage and news the whole time, and the good stuff is hidden. Its not as bad as the N64 in some respects, and worse in others, as the XBox is also in play.
I am of course sticking by my Cube, and my plans to buy an Xbox are a) simply for Live and b)on hold due to lack of BB connection. Not for games I will play for ever, like I do with Nintendos. I just can't help but feel, especially with the PSP released next year, and games like Halo 2 on the horizon, that big flashy has more success than a company that apparently is disliked by a lot of people...... I can't explain it, its indefinable in the sense that its inexplicable. I just hope people actually sample the Cube. It really is quite brilliant.
I was watching my brother playing Zelda earlier. I really don't want to see this on Xbox 2 or PS3. It just will not be the same (if the worst happens). I want to play the next Zelda on my Cube, or if not that, the next console from Nintendo. I was also reading the latest GamesTM at the same time. 'Publishers deserting Cube' and the like. Sure, two companies, with about two strong francises each (Collin McCrae, LMA Manager, Burnout, Turok - arguably) harldy count as 'publishers deserting'. Well technicly it does, but not in the larger sense. Now I know the Cube has a future for me. But that is unfortunatly not the important factor. The important factor, in terms of Nintendo carrying on as a hardware manufacturer, is if the Cube has a future with the market.
Then we get onto all the usual. Marketing, idiot mongrels who buy rubbish on the (in my opinion) terrible PS2, and the decent-er (er...) Xbox. Nintendo not doing enough etc. Sure Nintendo have to pull their fingers out, and reducing royalty rates is a good step, but they also need to quite simply, *blitz* the market. With power. In a similar XBox style way, make their next step cover all bases with enough power, even if online (for example) is not Nintendos main focus - making it available still appeals. Same for DVD, hard drive, stupidly powerful hardware etc. Basicly, the XBox did this because it had to break into the market, and the results speak for themselves. So, on the next step, Nintendo need to (although they won't) blast the new console everywhere, with so many features and ideas and power that it simply looks cool. Although I will not be happy if it has to have BB connections and also acts as your fridge.
But, back to the current situation, the current Gamecube. The release list simpky wonderful (www.cube-europe.com/releases.php) with some real gems in there. But once again Nintendo are stuck in a rut. They are making lots of moolah. Good. They are making lots of wonderful (easily better than anything else the other consoles have) games, and have many bright prospects (Starcraft: Ghost, Billy Hatcher, Geist, POP: SOT, the next Metroird, Mario 128, the next Ridge Racer, FF:CC etc....) but its that indefinable thing, where Nintendo just get bad coverage and news the whole time, and the good stuff is hidden. Its not as bad as the N64 in some respects, and worse in others, as the XBox is also in play.
I am of course sticking by my Cube, and my plans to buy an Xbox are a) simply for Live and b)on hold due to lack of BB connection. Not for games I will play for ever, like I do with Nintendos. I just can't help but feel, especially with the PSP released next year, and games like Halo 2 on the horizon, that big flashy has more success than a company that apparently is disliked by a lot of people...... I can't explain it, its indefinable in the sense that its inexplicable. I just hope people actually sample the Cube. It really is quite brilliant.
Whitestripes DX wrote:
> It's ironic that most people who seek to be different end up the same.
Bingo.
> It's ironic that most people who seek to be different end up the same.
Bingo.
It's ironic that most people who seek to be different end up the same.
It's all about Image... If Nintendo marketed themselves as an "alternative" company like the ROCK industry did then it could take off.
"Be Different
Nintendo"
It would make people get into this "sell out" frame of mind... owning a Playstation is a "townie" thing to do. People are obsessed with being different these days and if Nintendo can tap into this they can watch their sales rise... and they don't need to change their games at all.
"Be Different
Nintendo"
It would make people get into this "sell out" frame of mind... owning a Playstation is a "townie" thing to do. People are obsessed with being different these days and if Nintendo can tap into this they can watch their sales rise... and they don't need to change their games at all.
Yeah, I got a taste for 'mature gaming' with Perfect Dark. Sometimes it's overrated. I like conkers bad fur day too but although that's mature in content it doesn't require a mature person to play it.
Damn we need to define 'Mature gaming' because it could just mean Gory games but it could also mean more intelligent games like Morrowind.
Damn we need to define 'Mature gaming' because it could just mean Gory games but it could also mean more intelligent games like Morrowind.
Cyclone wrote:
onto the debat if 'maturity'.
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What was I writing?
Then we are onto the debate about what constiutes 'matruity'.
onto the debat if 'maturity'.
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What was I writing?
Then we are onto the debate about what constiutes 'matruity'.
Cool. Nintendo have been slow starters and adapt well and with Geist, MP2 and Goldeneye 2 it seems they are gearing up.
I will never write off my cube.
ooh good Nintendo FPS multiplayer!!!
I will never write off my cube.
ooh good Nintendo FPS multiplayer!!!
Hedfix wrote:
get some more adult themed
> and multiplayer games out there.
>
Both Geist and MP2 will have mulit and are adult. S:Ghost looks pretty mature. But then we are onto the debat if 'maturity'.
Metroid Prime is an adult title, and yet is considered dull for being so damn meticulously amazing.
get some more adult themed
> and multiplayer games out there.
>
Both Geist and MP2 will have mulit and are adult. S:Ghost looks pretty mature. But then we are onto the debat if 'maturity'.
Metroid Prime is an adult title, and yet is considered dull for being so damn meticulously amazing.
Christmas may make or break Nintendo's image.
Personally I think they are the masters of gameplay but they aren't brilliant at marketing their games in America and Europe. Their exclusives will see them through.
However if a game is on GC and Xbox I will get the Xbox version because then I will not run out of memory for saves. I also got a GC first in the false knowledge that Perfect Dark would be on it, so far Nintendo's attempts at FPS games have not made me leap to buy them. I was crossing my fingers Metroid would have a multiplayer, it didn't and I didn't buy it.
When I bought my N64 it was a multiplayer dream and was full of FPS games. Now Nintendo have, to a degree, alienated those who bought Nintendo for Multiplayer and FPS games.
The multiplayer games that do exist on GC are good but cannot hold a candle to the FPS games I have on my Xbox.
I will keep buying GC games (I have 12 to my xbox's 23 games) that appeal to me but Nintendo really need to get some more adult themed and multiplayer games out there.
Obviously this is just a personal opinion.
Personally I think they are the masters of gameplay but they aren't brilliant at marketing their games in America and Europe. Their exclusives will see them through.
However if a game is on GC and Xbox I will get the Xbox version because then I will not run out of memory for saves. I also got a GC first in the false knowledge that Perfect Dark would be on it, so far Nintendo's attempts at FPS games have not made me leap to buy them. I was crossing my fingers Metroid would have a multiplayer, it didn't and I didn't buy it.
When I bought my N64 it was a multiplayer dream and was full of FPS games. Now Nintendo have, to a degree, alienated those who bought Nintendo for Multiplayer and FPS games.
The multiplayer games that do exist on GC are good but cannot hold a candle to the FPS games I have on my Xbox.
I will keep buying GC games (I have 12 to my xbox's 23 games) that appeal to me but Nintendo really need to get some more adult themed and multiplayer games out there.
Obviously this is just a personal opinion.
I don't want the Cube to die. Obvious sentiment I know. But at the moment I can't but help feel bleak for the future of my beloved Cube (No. I am. Not. Sad). Codemasters and Acclaim have dropped their support due to low profits, and seemingly everywhere I look, I see 'on PC, PS2 and XBox'. Eg. Mafia, a title that could really help the Cube, has been cancelled. Why? WHY??!
I was watching my brother playing Zelda earlier. I really don't want to see this on Xbox 2 or PS3. It just will not be the same (if the worst happens). I want to play the next Zelda on my Cube, or if not that, the next console from Nintendo. I was also reading the latest GamesTM at the same time. 'Publishers deserting Cube' and the like. Sure, two companies, with about two strong francises each (Collin McCrae, LMA Manager, Burnout, Turok - arguably) harldy count as 'publishers deserting'. Well technicly it does, but not in the larger sense. Now I know the Cube has a future for me. But that is unfortunatly not the important factor. The important factor, in terms of Nintendo carrying on as a hardware manufacturer, is if the Cube has a future with the market.
Then we get onto all the usual. Marketing, idiot mongrels who buy rubbish on the (in my opinion) terrible PS2, and the decent-er (er...) Xbox. Nintendo not doing enough etc. Sure Nintendo have to pull their fingers out, and reducing royalty rates is a good step, but they also need to quite simply, *blitz* the market. With power. In a similar XBox style way, make their next step cover all bases with enough power, even if online (for example) is not Nintendos main focus - making it available still appeals. Same for DVD, hard drive, stupidly powerful hardware etc. Basicly, the XBox did this because it had to break into the market, and the results speak for themselves. So, on the next step, Nintendo need to (although they won't) blast the new console everywhere, with so many features and ideas and power that it simply looks cool. Although I will not be happy if it has to have BB connections and also acts as your fridge.
But, back to the current situation, the current Gamecube. The release list simpky wonderful (www.cube-europe.com/releases.php) with some real gems in there. But once again Nintendo are stuck in a rut. They are making lots of moolah. Good. They are making lots of wonderful (easily better than anything else the other consoles have) games, and have many bright prospects (Starcraft: Ghost, Billy Hatcher, Geist, POP: SOT, the next Metroird, Mario 128, the next Ridge Racer, FF:CC etc....) but its that indefinable thing, where Nintendo just get bad coverage and news the whole time, and the good stuff is hidden. Its not as bad as the N64 in some respects, and worse in others, as the XBox is also in play.
I am of course sticking by my Cube, and my plans to buy an Xbox are a) simply for Live and b)on hold due to lack of BB connection. Not for games I will play for ever, like I do with Nintendos. I just can't help but feel, especially with the PSP released next year, and games like Halo 2 on the horizon, that big flashy has more success than a company that apparently is disliked by a lot of people...... I can't explain it, its indefinable in the sense that its inexplicable. I just hope people actually sample the Cube. It really is quite brilliant.
I was watching my brother playing Zelda earlier. I really don't want to see this on Xbox 2 or PS3. It just will not be the same (if the worst happens). I want to play the next Zelda on my Cube, or if not that, the next console from Nintendo. I was also reading the latest GamesTM at the same time. 'Publishers deserting Cube' and the like. Sure, two companies, with about two strong francises each (Collin McCrae, LMA Manager, Burnout, Turok - arguably) harldy count as 'publishers deserting'. Well technicly it does, but not in the larger sense. Now I know the Cube has a future for me. But that is unfortunatly not the important factor. The important factor, in terms of Nintendo carrying on as a hardware manufacturer, is if the Cube has a future with the market.
Then we get onto all the usual. Marketing, idiot mongrels who buy rubbish on the (in my opinion) terrible PS2, and the decent-er (er...) Xbox. Nintendo not doing enough etc. Sure Nintendo have to pull their fingers out, and reducing royalty rates is a good step, but they also need to quite simply, *blitz* the market. With power. In a similar XBox style way, make their next step cover all bases with enough power, even if online (for example) is not Nintendos main focus - making it available still appeals. Same for DVD, hard drive, stupidly powerful hardware etc. Basicly, the XBox did this because it had to break into the market, and the results speak for themselves. So, on the next step, Nintendo need to (although they won't) blast the new console everywhere, with so many features and ideas and power that it simply looks cool. Although I will not be happy if it has to have BB connections and also acts as your fridge.
But, back to the current situation, the current Gamecube. The release list simpky wonderful (www.cube-europe.com/releases.php) with some real gems in there. But once again Nintendo are stuck in a rut. They are making lots of moolah. Good. They are making lots of wonderful (easily better than anything else the other consoles have) games, and have many bright prospects (Starcraft: Ghost, Billy Hatcher, Geist, POP: SOT, the next Metroird, Mario 128, the next Ridge Racer, FF:CC etc....) but its that indefinable thing, where Nintendo just get bad coverage and news the whole time, and the good stuff is hidden. Its not as bad as the N64 in some respects, and worse in others, as the XBox is also in play.
I am of course sticking by my Cube, and my plans to buy an Xbox are a) simply for Live and b)on hold due to lack of BB connection. Not for games I will play for ever, like I do with Nintendos. I just can't help but feel, especially with the PSP released next year, and games like Halo 2 on the horizon, that big flashy has more success than a company that apparently is disliked by a lot of people...... I can't explain it, its indefinable in the sense that its inexplicable. I just hope people actually sample the Cube. It really is quite brilliant.