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Sat 06/10/01 at 14:07
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Petrol Prices. What an utterly boring topic to talk about, but something that affects many of us, itís a very important factor in the economy, and one that recently (within the last year) sparked the petrol issue, with the lorries and all sorts being detained, blocked off from getting to the garages, and so petrol was very scarce, panic happened and so did incredibly long traffic jams, queues for petrol, and the country did run dry on petroleum for a short space of time, and did the prices go down?

Well no, not really. Prices are still high, and because of the recent atrocities in America, the price of oil has risen, and restrictions could take place, prices may rise significantly, but who can be sure, theyíre high enough as it is anyway!

At the moment unleaded petrol per litre is around 72.9 ñ 79.9 across the country, in the area I live in itís 74.9, but the price changes nearly every month by one or two pence. LRP 4 star is the most expensive at 79.99 in the area, probably stretching to around 89.99 in some places in the UK. Diesel costs slightly less then Unleaded at the moment, but thatíll probably change.

In 5 years the petrol prices have gone up by around 50%, which is way above inflation. Tax on petrol is extortionate, and the government do have to bring in money through taxation in order to run the economy as well as they can. But the reasons, they claim for putting such a high level of tax on petroleum are to reduce the number of cars on the road and to reduce pollution, making us use public transport are completely hypocritical.

People, in most cases, cannot stop using cars, public transport is so expensive anyway, with train prices rising to help fund the restructuring of tracks, because the service is so poor and so many accidents have happened.

Government people use cars, to travel the most ridiculously short journeys, theyíre not finding solutions - instead theyíve been causing disruption. Ok, so oil is a fossil fuel, its finite and will run out, so we have to limit the usage of it, a new way of powering our cars, such as fuel cells, solar panelled cars, and more ideas, they need to be implemented soon, because weíre running out of petrol.

Pollution is also far too high, contributing to the escalating problem of global warming. We need new technology, not higher petrol prices. If the petrol prices are so high, then some of the money from the taxation should be going towards funding the research into alternative fuels.

Are we being ripped off? Yes! We are, but what can we do? Where else would the money come from to pay for education, for spending on ëroadsí, and for everything else the government spending goes towards? Duel Fuel cars, with a gas tank in the boot, taking up half of the boot are now in production, thereís a special Vauxhall Astra for instance that can use gas fuel, which is around half the price of normal petrol, and only loses around 10% of the mpg.

But it takes up half of the boot! What is the way forward? If we cannot drive down petrol prices then weíre going to have to use something else. The economy is in tact at the moment, weíre not receding, and hopefully some solutions will be born.

What do you reckon!?

Flying Fox ;)
Sun 07/10/01 at 17:28
Posts: 0
The government is continually "ripping us off" on everything, not just petrol.

How about,

Income Tax
National Insurance
Council Tax,
VAT
Import Duty
Insurance Premium Tax,
Tobacco Tax
Alcohol Tax
Any More

I am in no way saying we shouldn't pay taxes but where's the value for money? Where's the justification for ever accelerating taxes?
Sat 06/10/01 at 17:12
Regular
Posts: 16,548
Yes. Debate over.
Sat 06/10/01 at 16:32
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"Trout a la creme"
Posts: 2,858
Short answer yes we are being ripped off.
petrol is pretty much the same price over the world to buy in crude oil form but once the government have got their hands on it the price soars.
When the cost per barrel increases petrol companies are quick (in general) to up their pump prices, but when the price falls as it does fluctuate over time they never rush to pass the savings on and just wait until the price goes up again so they can hike the price that bit more.
Sat 06/10/01 at 14:07
Posts: 0
Petrol Prices. What an utterly boring topic to talk about, but something that affects many of us, itís a very important factor in the economy, and one that recently (within the last year) sparked the petrol issue, with the lorries and all sorts being detained, blocked off from getting to the garages, and so petrol was very scarce, panic happened and so did incredibly long traffic jams, queues for petrol, and the country did run dry on petroleum for a short space of time, and did the prices go down?

Well no, not really. Prices are still high, and because of the recent atrocities in America, the price of oil has risen, and restrictions could take place, prices may rise significantly, but who can be sure, theyíre high enough as it is anyway!

At the moment unleaded petrol per litre is around 72.9 ñ 79.9 across the country, in the area I live in itís 74.9, but the price changes nearly every month by one or two pence. LRP 4 star is the most expensive at 79.99 in the area, probably stretching to around 89.99 in some places in the UK. Diesel costs slightly less then Unleaded at the moment, but thatíll probably change.

In 5 years the petrol prices have gone up by around 50%, which is way above inflation. Tax on petrol is extortionate, and the government do have to bring in money through taxation in order to run the economy as well as they can. But the reasons, they claim for putting such a high level of tax on petroleum are to reduce the number of cars on the road and to reduce pollution, making us use public transport are completely hypocritical.

People, in most cases, cannot stop using cars, public transport is so expensive anyway, with train prices rising to help fund the restructuring of tracks, because the service is so poor and so many accidents have happened.

Government people use cars, to travel the most ridiculously short journeys, theyíre not finding solutions - instead theyíve been causing disruption. Ok, so oil is a fossil fuel, its finite and will run out, so we have to limit the usage of it, a new way of powering our cars, such as fuel cells, solar panelled cars, and more ideas, they need to be implemented soon, because weíre running out of petrol.

Pollution is also far too high, contributing to the escalating problem of global warming. We need new technology, not higher petrol prices. If the petrol prices are so high, then some of the money from the taxation should be going towards funding the research into alternative fuels.

Are we being ripped off? Yes! We are, but what can we do? Where else would the money come from to pay for education, for spending on ëroadsí, and for everything else the government spending goes towards? Duel Fuel cars, with a gas tank in the boot, taking up half of the boot are now in production, thereís a special Vauxhall Astra for instance that can use gas fuel, which is around half the price of normal petrol, and only loses around 10% of the mpg.

But it takes up half of the boot! What is the way forward? If we cannot drive down petrol prices then weíre going to have to use something else. The economy is in tact at the moment, weíre not receding, and hopefully some solutions will be born.

What do you reckon!?

Flying Fox ;)

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