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I was thinking while playing CM4 today (I do a lot of that it's slow as hell sometimes on my PC) and it dawned on me that I much preferred the old premier Manager and LMA Manager games to this. Why? Because they didn't need ages spent reading stats before picking teams and buying and selling, basically it wasn't so damned complicated.
I've had the same experience with the FF series. I just want to get stuvk into the game, not sit watching a film and reading half the time. I have DVD's and books for that. I just want a plain straigforward for the most part stpryline that can be absorbed quickly and easily as I go about defeating the bad guys. It was done on older consoles in RPG's with much less elaboration and basically with the same effect I feel.
So my topic for debate is:
Are some games getting too complicated and info-heavy to be just plain fun anymore?
I've had the same experience with the FF series. I just want to get stuvk into the game, not sit watching a film and reading half the time. I have DVD's and books for that. I just want a plain straigforward for the most part stpryline that can be absorbed quickly and easily as I go about defeating the bad guys. It was done on older consoles in RPG's with much less elaboration and basically with the same effect I feel.
So my topic for debate is:
Are some games getting too complicated and info-heavy to be just plain fun anymore?
I was thinking while playing CM4 today (I do a lot of that it's slow as hell sometimes on my PC) and it dawned on me that I much preferred the old premier Manager and LMA Manager games to this. Why? Because they didn't need ages spent reading stats before picking teams and buying and selling, basically it wasn't so damned complicated.
I've had the same experience with the FF series. I just want to get stuvk into the game, not sit watching a film and reading half the time. I have DVD's and books for that. I just want a plain straigforward for the most part stpryline that can be absorbed quickly and easily as I go about defeating the bad guys. It was done on older consoles in RPG's with much less elaboration and basically with the same effect I feel.
So my topic for debate is:
Are some games getting too complicated and info-heavy to be just plain fun anymore?
I've had the same experience with the FF series. I just want to get stuvk into the game, not sit watching a film and reading half the time. I have DVD's and books for that. I just want a plain straigforward for the most part stpryline that can be absorbed quickly and easily as I go about defeating the bad guys. It was done on older consoles in RPG's with much less elaboration and basically with the same effect I feel.
So my topic for debate is:
Are some games getting too complicated and info-heavy to be just plain fun anymore?
Yup.
Ones I have which have a good balance of complication and gameplay:
Phantom Crash
Morrowind
Ghost Recon
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (not that complicated but compared to Gauntlet it is)
Anything else that has a load of options to fiddle with if you want but doesn't make you have to use them.
Phantom Crash
Morrowind
Ghost Recon
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (not that complicated but compared to Gauntlet it is)
Anything else that has a load of options to fiddle with if you want but doesn't make you have to use them.
No, I don't think so. Everyone's different, I personally liked and still like the FF series. The fact that you spend half the time reading is down to why I like it so much. If it just had the random battles every minute, I've got a feeling I would have taken it back within the first week.
Basically, if you don't like a game, take it back. It doesn't mean that others think like you.
Although, to a certain extent, I agree with you.
Basically, if you don't like a game, take it back. It doesn't mean that others think like you.
Although, to a certain extent, I agree with you.
What? Nash is talking sensible?
What is the world coming to?
What is the world coming to?
J Nash wrote:
The fact that you spend half the time
> reading is down to why I like it so much. If it just had the random
> battles every minute, I've got a feeling I would have taken it back
> within the first week.
Buy a book.
The fact that you spend half the time
> reading is down to why I like it so much. If it just had the random
> battles every minute, I've got a feeling I would have taken it back
> within the first week.
Buy a book.
Unbeliever wrote:
> J Nash wrote:
> The fact that you spend half the time
> reading is down to why I like it so much. If it just had the random
> battles every minute, I've got a feeling I would have taken it back
> within the first week.
>
> Buy a book.
Yeah, but they didn't make a book of FF7, or indeed, any RPG, did they? And besides, it's different to reading a book. Very much so.
> J Nash wrote:
> The fact that you spend half the time
> reading is down to why I like it so much. If it just had the random
> battles every minute, I've got a feeling I would have taken it back
> within the first week.
>
> Buy a book.
Yeah, but they didn't make a book of FF7, or indeed, any RPG, did they? And besides, it's different to reading a book. Very much so.
the whole point of CM4 is that you have to do all that stuff, making it more realistic, different and more involving. im glad that that its like this,because thats what i like about it and it exercises peoples football knowledge and actually makes you think.