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Hmm. I bought a laptop with Vista (Duel core processor, 1gb ram, and it gets slowdown running inkball. Speaking of which, I hope they release a security patch for inkball soon. One to make it much, much easier.)
Anyway, new laptop, vista, and whenever I try to log in to Wimmel's (Windows - I've not downloaded the most retarded fake software ever, I just prefer that name)
Anyway, Windows (Wimmel's) Messenger, in vista, try to log in, Wimmel's Data Execution Prevention program shuts the whole thing down.
Clearly Bill Gates has gone insane and is battling himself for his soul through the medium of conflicting parts of windows.
Has anyone else had this problem or heard of it?
Should I just try for MSN messenger instead? The pre-download blurb told me wimmel's messenger was being phased in instead of msn messenger. Someone's been on the crack pipe, and I hope it's not me.
I could probably have asked that question in 2 lines.
Night night.
Anyway, new laptop, vista, and whenever I try to log in to Wimmel's (Windows - I've not downloaded the most retarded fake software ever, I just prefer that name)
Anyway, Windows (Wimmel's) Messenger, in vista, try to log in, Wimmel's Data Execution Prevention program shuts the whole thing down.
Clearly Bill Gates has gone insane and is battling himself for his soul through the medium of conflicting parts of windows.
Has anyone else had this problem or heard of it?
Should I just try for MSN messenger instead? The pre-download blurb told me wimmel's messenger was being phased in instead of msn messenger. Someone's been on the crack pipe, and I hope it's not me.
I could probably have asked that question in 2 lines.
Night night.
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In principle it's easy, but when you don't know what you're doing it can be quite intimidating, especially if you run into problems and you end wading around forums up to your neck in the land of unfamiliarity.
It took me a few goes before I had a properly dual booting computer.
I also ran into some strange problem where having a Linux partition at the start of my HD made it impossible to boot from the XP CD (Some older BIOSes suffer from a problem whereby you "need" the /boot partition in the first x cylinders of your hard drive to ensure it'll be bootable. You can install the boot loader on the Windows MBR (master boot record) but that seems incredibly messy to me), which made HD partitioning a real pain in the behind, but that may be specific to my hardware or my disc or something.
Having said that, I managed to keep all my Windows data during the whole thing.
It took me a few goes before I had a properly dual booting computer.
I also ran into some strange problem where having a Linux partition at the start of my HD made it impossible to boot from the XP CD (Some older BIOSes suffer from a problem whereby you "need" the /boot partition in the first x cylinders of your hard drive to ensure it'll be bootable. You can install the boot loader on the Windows MBR (master boot record) but that seems incredibly messy to me), which made HD partitioning a real pain in the behind, but that may be specific to my hardware or my disc or something.
Having said that, I managed to keep all my Windows data during the whole thing.
Im thinking of installing Linux but want to keep Windows too (just incase). It is possible to have both isnt it and choose which to boot at start up? How easy is it to set this up?
Nin wrote:
> Timmargh wrote:
> I'd have never thought that Microsoft could do anything to make
> me say "I prefer XP" ... until they released Vista.
>
> It amuses me greatly that my uncle who knows nothing about pc's
> is selling his reasonably decent but badly maintained computer
> with XP in order to buy one with Vista
Always pains me to hear of people wanting to buy new computers to fix software issues :(
I wouldn't buy another MS product after XP because of the appalling product activation scheme MS implemented with XP. If you're a legitimate user, you bought Home because it's cheaper and then you're faced with being accused of pirating it until you activated. And the side effect was that you couldn't also go and install it on your sister's computer, oh no, you had to buy another copy of it for that.
On the other hand, if you pirated it, you downloaded Pro, because, well, why not? And for some reason, there was no activation needed on Pro. So for the most part, the only people who got stung by it were people using legitimate copies.
As for "you get what you pay for", I've been almost exclusively running Fedora Linux for about 6 or 7 months now, completely free and I find it a much better environment to use than Windows ever was. The only real problems are hardware support (which doesn't affect me) and software compatibility but you can just about fix that for most applications with WINE or Cedega (emulators) or a virtualized install of XP.
> Timmargh wrote:
> I'd have never thought that Microsoft could do anything to make
> me say "I prefer XP" ... until they released Vista.
>
> It amuses me greatly that my uncle who knows nothing about pc's
> is selling his reasonably decent but badly maintained computer
> with XP in order to buy one with Vista
Always pains me to hear of people wanting to buy new computers to fix software issues :(
I wouldn't buy another MS product after XP because of the appalling product activation scheme MS implemented with XP. If you're a legitimate user, you bought Home because it's cheaper and then you're faced with being accused of pirating it until you activated. And the side effect was that you couldn't also go and install it on your sister's computer, oh no, you had to buy another copy of it for that.
On the other hand, if you pirated it, you downloaded Pro, because, well, why not? And for some reason, there was no activation needed on Pro. So for the most part, the only people who got stung by it were people using legitimate copies.
As for "you get what you pay for", I've been almost exclusively running Fedora Linux for about 6 or 7 months now, completely free and I find it a much better environment to use than Windows ever was. The only real problems are hardware support (which doesn't affect me) and software compatibility but you can just about fix that for most applications with WINE or Cedega (emulators) or a virtualized install of XP.
I just wish Macs were a bit more affordable but I know personally that you get what you pay for.
Occasionally there are Macs that crash all the time (9 times out of 10 it's a logic board or memory problem) and there are plenty of people who have little or no troubles using Windows -- I've got XP installed on my MacBook via Boot Camp and (touch wood) so far it's been relatively trouble free ... it does seem to insist on installing various updates every single I boot up into it, though.
Ironically, one of Apple's biggest advantages is the fact that their user-base is so small because it means they can get away with saying that they won't support older hardware as their OS matures because most Mac users are happy to upgrade or to stay where they are -- a lot of Microsoft's and Windows' problems stem from backwards compatibility and the fact that there are literally millions of possible PC configurations available due to the number of different component manufacturers.
Occasionally there are Macs that crash all the time (9 times out of 10 it's a logic board or memory problem) and there are plenty of people who have little or no troubles using Windows -- I've got XP installed on my MacBook via Boot Camp and (touch wood) so far it's been relatively trouble free ... it does seem to insist on installing various updates every single I boot up into it, though.
Ironically, one of Apple's biggest advantages is the fact that their user-base is so small because it means they can get away with saying that they won't support older hardware as their OS matures because most Mac users are happy to upgrade or to stay where they are -- a lot of Microsoft's and Windows' problems stem from backwards compatibility and the fact that there are literally millions of possible PC configurations available due to the number of different component manufacturers.
Timmargh wrote:
> I'd have never thought that Microsoft could do anything to make
> me say "I prefer XP" ... until they released Vista.
It amuses me greatly that my uncle who knows nothing about pc's is selling his reasonably decent but badly maintained computer with XP in order to buy one with Vista, despite having told him that
A)I could fix his pc
B)Vista was a load of crap
C)Any Microsoft OS should be avoided in the first year of it's release.
I'm almost tempted to buy his pc and then sell it back to him for a jacked up price when he realises his mistake.
> I'd have never thought that Microsoft could do anything to make
> me say "I prefer XP" ... until they released Vista.
It amuses me greatly that my uncle who knows nothing about pc's is selling his reasonably decent but badly maintained computer with XP in order to buy one with Vista, despite having told him that
A)I could fix his pc
B)Vista was a load of crap
C)Any Microsoft OS should be avoided in the first year of it's release.
I'm almost tempted to buy his pc and then sell it back to him for a jacked up price when he realises his mistake.
Hedfix wrote:
> Would you like to complete my survey on backpacks?
Oh my god, that's totally where it came from.
Weird how stuff like that survives in your brain.
My mind has been violated. I demand a refund :-S
Why vista? I was getting a laptop, it was new, 'why not' I thought.
The layout is a bit gay, and some of it took a little getting used to, but I don't think it's actually *bad*.
Plus it has inkball. That's worth £500 if ever anything was.
> Would you like to complete my survey on backpacks?
Oh my god, that's totally where it came from.
Weird how stuff like that survives in your brain.
My mind has been violated. I demand a refund :-S
Why vista? I was getting a laptop, it was new, 'why not' I thought.
The layout is a bit gay, and some of it took a little getting used to, but I don't think it's actually *bad*.
Plus it has inkball. That's worth £500 if ever anything was.
We're all wrong!!!!1!!11*?
Ive just been on the brilliant (may not be true) Vista home page to find out what new features it has (I actually hadnt even looked until now, Ive only gone by word of mouth as to why its so bad). Its a similar set up to the Mac page only its gay and nearly crashed my computer and ran really slow and its gay.
I found out why Vista is good though. You can look at photos play video files and it has a firewall. Other possible added benefits are something to do with XBox 360 and being able to use your xbox pad on the PC, negating the need for an XBox maybe, Im not sure.
Getting a bit more serious now, I actually thought people were just having a go at vista for the sake of it. I know an ex microsoft engineer who explained to me why it rubbish using words I didnt understand, but I thought everyone else was just moaning for the sake of it, but after looking at the below par presentation on the site it actually does make it look worse than XP. The Mac OS presentation on the apple site makes Macs look amazing and even if they arent, at least they have dones great with their sales pitch unlike MS who are just useles.
Ive just been on the brilliant (may not be true) Vista home page to find out what new features it has (I actually hadnt even looked until now, Ive only gone by word of mouth as to why its so bad). Its a similar set up to the Mac page only its gay and nearly crashed my computer and ran really slow and its gay.
I found out why Vista is good though. You can look at photos play video files and it has a firewall. Other possible added benefits are something to do with XBox 360 and being able to use your xbox pad on the PC, negating the need for an XBox maybe, Im not sure.
Getting a bit more serious now, I actually thought people were just having a go at vista for the sake of it. I know an ex microsoft engineer who explained to me why it rubbish using words I didnt understand, but I thought everyone else was just moaning for the sake of it, but after looking at the below par presentation on the site it actually does make it look worse than XP. The Mac OS presentation on the apple site makes Macs look amazing and even if they arent, at least they have dones great with their sales pitch unlike MS who are just useles.
I'd have never thought that Microsoft could do anything to make me say "I prefer XP" ... until they released Vista.
Yeah I thought of that after I posted.
You know what I meant.
You know what I meant.
Bob_The_Moose wrote:
> Timmargh wrote:
> Your first mistake is revealed in your first seven words ...
>
> +1
No, just 7.
> Timmargh wrote:
> Your first mistake is revealed in your first seven words ...
>
> +1
No, just 7.
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