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Tue 30/01/07 at 21:30
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I liked the old age rating system. The film makers would make the film then the BBFC would decide the rating depending on how appropriate it was for viewers of a certain age.

It worked well with extreme violence and gore gaining an 18 rating, moderate violence with some swearing getting a 15 and the odd swearword and a punch getting a 12.

Now with the invetion of 12A the whole system is messed up. I cant remember the last time I saw a 15 film. You either have extreme violence in an 18 or fairly tame action ni a 12A, there is hardly any middle ground these days and the reason is because of that stupid "A" on the end of 12A.

Let me explain... If a film company in the past cut out the odd action scene and swear word to reduce a rating from a 15 to a 12 they may get a few extra customers, i.e. anyone aged 12-14. There is a bit on an incentive there but they could possibly loose some of their targe audience in the process so the incentive wasnt great.

These days, however, if they do the same thing (remove the odd fight or swear word) the rating is a 12A so the ammount of people who can see the film increases hugely because essentially anyone can go, plus all of those extra people HAVE to take a parent too meaning even more people pay to see the film. This is a huge incentive to film companies to force cuts from films. By removing the odd splatter of blood and an F word they can increae their proffits hugely.

This has left a huge void in the market with films being either hugely violent like Saw or child friendly like Spiderman. There are very few middle of the road films these days. Things like Get Shorty spring to mind. A gangster film that’s not overly violent yet slightly too grown up for a youngster. These days it would be cut slightly, have a 12A ratting and make more proffit, but would it be a better film for it? Probably not, but film companies arent interested in making films, they are interested in making money.
Thu 01/02/07 at 16:10
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I disagree, I've seen many 12s that I wouldn't class as kiddy.
Thu 01/02/07 at 13:14
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I wasnt saying violence and sex make movies good. I was saying that there is hardly any variety any more. There are either Hardcore violent films or kiddy films, there are not as many average films as there used to be.
Wed 31/01/07 at 21:48
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Nin wrote:
> Alfonse wrote:
> Violence and sex does not make a movie good.
>
> That would depend on what type of movie it was.

By violence I mean hardcore violence and by sex I mean hardcore sex.
And yes I realised what you meant.
Wed 31/01/07 at 21:44
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Alfonse wrote:
> Violence and sex does not make a movie good.

That would depend on what type of movie it was.
Wed 31/01/07 at 21:40
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reality. :'(
Wed 31/01/07 at 21:06
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Too many shockvideos, I'm also forced to overdose on reality all the time.
Wed 31/01/07 at 17:47
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Alfonse wrote:
> Violence and sex does not make a movie good.


you grew up too fast :p
Wed 31/01/07 at 16:57
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Violence and sex does not make a movie good.
Tue 30/01/07 at 21:30
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"lets go back"
Posts: 2,661
I liked the old age rating system. The film makers would make the film then the BBFC would decide the rating depending on how appropriate it was for viewers of a certain age.

It worked well with extreme violence and gore gaining an 18 rating, moderate violence with some swearing getting a 15 and the odd swearword and a punch getting a 12.

Now with the invetion of 12A the whole system is messed up. I cant remember the last time I saw a 15 film. You either have extreme violence in an 18 or fairly tame action ni a 12A, there is hardly any middle ground these days and the reason is because of that stupid "A" on the end of 12A.

Let me explain... If a film company in the past cut out the odd action scene and swear word to reduce a rating from a 15 to a 12 they may get a few extra customers, i.e. anyone aged 12-14. There is a bit on an incentive there but they could possibly loose some of their targe audience in the process so the incentive wasnt great.

These days, however, if they do the same thing (remove the odd fight or swear word) the rating is a 12A so the ammount of people who can see the film increases hugely because essentially anyone can go, plus all of those extra people HAVE to take a parent too meaning even more people pay to see the film. This is a huge incentive to film companies to force cuts from films. By removing the odd splatter of blood and an F word they can increae their proffits hugely.

This has left a huge void in the market with films being either hugely violent like Saw or child friendly like Spiderman. There are very few middle of the road films these days. Things like Get Shorty spring to mind. A gangster film that’s not overly violent yet slightly too grown up for a youngster. These days it would be cut slightly, have a 12A ratting and make more proffit, but would it be a better film for it? Probably not, but film companies arent interested in making films, they are interested in making money.

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