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Wed 01/08/01 at 02:20
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Yes, yes, this is the forth time I've posted this but it's good and I was told it might do well in here. Hey I might win a GAD and a FAD! (doubt it but worth a try!)

Hey, I know this is a kind of controversial subject, but I think it’s one that should be sorted out. I’m not really up to date with all the PC terms so if I offend anyone, I’m very sorry and nothing was meant by this.

- First of all, Racism as a whole and my opinions.

In my opinion, all people should be treated equally. Whether they be black or white, straight or gay, rich or poor. By equally I mean equally. I don’t believe in schools for black people or schools for white people. I don’t believe white people should be treated better than black people OR black people better than white. I don’t believe a black man should be sacked just because he is black, but I also don’t believe black people should be able to sue for something white people can’t. In some cases I believe racism has gone too far the other way. Why should police officers be afraid of stopping black men? They are not afraid to stop whites, so why blacks? Why is there a difference? I also disagree with black people (by this I don’t just mean black by the way, I also mean Asian half-caste etc etc) who think the world is against them because they are black. How many times have I watched a program about the police? Ten white men get arrested and don’t complain. One black man gets arrested and screams the place down about it being because he is black. Where is the equality in that?

- But what has this got to do with gaming?

A few months ago, PC Gamer ran an article about racism in computer games. It used Soldier of Fortune as an example of the problems. It pointed out that, during the missions, you could not kill any civilians. If you killed more than 2 civilians, it was game over. However, in the missions that take place in Iraq, Iraqi citizens can be killed without any problems. These deaths aren’t even recorded on your “Innocents Killed” list. This shows the thinking that Iraqi citizens are not as valuable as Americans. Let’s make this clear, no where in the game do the innocents become a threat, they generally stand around minding their own business. This is clearly part of the American ‘Dirty Arab’, gung-ho kind of attitude toward these people. I would like to make one point before I finish, no where in the game does it say that it is ok to shoot Iraqi, yet no where does it say not to.

So, what do you think? Is this blatant racism? Is this simply a mistake? Have you noticed racism in any other games? Let’s get this sorted out because it should not have to be tolerated.
Sat 11/08/01 at 15:12
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Kitty any chance you are Thom Yorke of Radiohead?

Just he calls his car or diary that or something :D
Sat 11/08/01 at 14:49
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In response to the last posting about racism I would just like to add that the reason black men have a problem being stopped by the police is that it happens a disproportionate amount of times.Yes white men also get stopped by the police but not in the significant numbers that black men do. As a black men you are roughly 10times more likely to be randomly stopped by the police. There is then an implicit assumption that black men are more likely to be up to criminal activities then white men. An assumption that black men do not take kindly too.
I don't mean to be patronising in this posting but it does help sometimes to question the information you've been given. Yes the newspaper will report the story of a black men complaining about being arrested by the police but it does often leave other vital information such as this being a very regular occurance to the point that the black male population feels its being victimised and harraseed.
As for your commnents about gaming I'm way out of my league here. The last one I played was Pac Man and that was badly.
Wed 01/08/01 at 02:20
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Posts: 2,631
Yes, yes, this is the forth time I've posted this but it's good and I was told it might do well in here. Hey I might win a GAD and a FAD! (doubt it but worth a try!)

Hey, I know this is a kind of controversial subject, but I think it’s one that should be sorted out. I’m not really up to date with all the PC terms so if I offend anyone, I’m very sorry and nothing was meant by this.

- First of all, Racism as a whole and my opinions.

In my opinion, all people should be treated equally. Whether they be black or white, straight or gay, rich or poor. By equally I mean equally. I don’t believe in schools for black people or schools for white people. I don’t believe white people should be treated better than black people OR black people better than white. I don’t believe a black man should be sacked just because he is black, but I also don’t believe black people should be able to sue for something white people can’t. In some cases I believe racism has gone too far the other way. Why should police officers be afraid of stopping black men? They are not afraid to stop whites, so why blacks? Why is there a difference? I also disagree with black people (by this I don’t just mean black by the way, I also mean Asian half-caste etc etc) who think the world is against them because they are black. How many times have I watched a program about the police? Ten white men get arrested and don’t complain. One black man gets arrested and screams the place down about it being because he is black. Where is the equality in that?

- But what has this got to do with gaming?

A few months ago, PC Gamer ran an article about racism in computer games. It used Soldier of Fortune as an example of the problems. It pointed out that, during the missions, you could not kill any civilians. If you killed more than 2 civilians, it was game over. However, in the missions that take place in Iraq, Iraqi citizens can be killed without any problems. These deaths aren’t even recorded on your “Innocents Killed” list. This shows the thinking that Iraqi citizens are not as valuable as Americans. Let’s make this clear, no where in the game do the innocents become a threat, they generally stand around minding their own business. This is clearly part of the American ‘Dirty Arab’, gung-ho kind of attitude toward these people. I would like to make one point before I finish, no where in the game does it say that it is ok to shoot Iraqi, yet no where does it say not to.

So, what do you think? Is this blatant racism? Is this simply a mistake? Have you noticed racism in any other games? Let’s get this sorted out because it should not have to be tolerated.

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