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Tue 24/07/01 at 17:03
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Who wants to live forever... ???

Given the choice how long would like to live for?

How long do you rekon is enough time to have a decent fulfilling life?

65? ... 80? ... 100? ... Forever?

How long do you want to live for?
Mon 06/08/01 at 21:42
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Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in reincarnation, only in the possibility of reincarnation. I am open-minded. Death is the great unknown: whether there is Nothing or Something beyond its veil - nobody knows.
Mon 06/08/01 at 20:22
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But, has anyone actually done it yet?

If they had I think most people would have heard about it.

The thing about immortality is that it's a very comforting idea for those that don't believe in heaven, another buffer against the idea of death, which is something that people avoid thinking about in an effort to remain happy.

Looking at the stark facts that we have, not one human being has yet proven beyond all doubt that they are

a) immortal
b) have been reincarnated
c) 100% guaranteed to get into heaven
d) likely to exist beyond death in any form whatsoever.

Of course, it's nice to think that maybe we'll continue in one spiritual form or another, but it just doesn't look that way given the evidence we have so far. (After thousands of years of collecting data, there's still not all that much to go on when you put it all together).

For non-believers, the biggest hurdle to overcome mentally is that the only form of immortality available to us is the passing on of our genes into our offspring. We're here until we die, then that's it, nothing, no afterlife, no spirit, just...nothing.

Once they've got over that, then procreation becomes a kind of necessity, but it's built into us as a genetic drive anyway, so it comes naturally. (No pun intended).

As well as passing on genes to your children as a form of immortality, there is the memories that others have of you, both from recorded information and ancestral memories.

Ghengis Kahn lived many hundreds of years ago, yet in a way lives on in peoples memories, no matter how distorted that memory has become.

Sir Isaac Newton, Galileo, Picasso, Shakespeare, members of Royal Families, politicians, actors, celebrities; all in some way live on after their deaths, which is about as close to immortality as any of us can hope for.

The question to ask is not "Is there life after death?" but "How can I live my life the best?", because in many views, you're only here once, so you've got to try to make the most of it.

People tend to believe in anything that will give them hope of a longer life, which is why both God and Anti-Aging cream from Nivea both have huge amounts of money spent on them each year.

For those of us who have accepted death as a natural event at the end of our lives, and have come to accept that this life is the only one we're going to get, every day is kinda special, and we try to live it to the full.

(Says FM, who has been spending most of today playing Metropolis Street Racer on his Dreamcast, playing with the Dachshund puppies and posting on here for the rest of the time...)
Mon 06/08/01 at 18:09
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Let me tell you about "The Black Rite".

It is one of the supreme rituals of sex and death practised by the Chaos Sorcerers (or Psychonauts) of the "Illuminati of Thanateros" - a magical order founded by Peter J Carroll in the 1970s.

The Black Rite is supposed to be one of the methods by which the aged adept Psychonaut ensures the safe passage of his spirit or soul into a new incarnation on Earth.

The sinister ritual consists of the forceful entry of the adept's spirit into the body of a living person. They state that it should only be performed in certain unusual or desperate situations, as it could result in there being a double life-force in one body.

Once the Psychonaut has selected a "suitable victim" (i.e. a young, healthy adult), he is taken to a secure and secluded chamber and drugged unconscious. The adept then retires to the same chamber and commits suicide.

What happens next is unclear, but the spirit of the adept - strengthened by a lifetime of magical disciplne - somehow transfuses itself by force into the body of the unfortunate victim.

If the rite is fully successful, the adept Psychonaut is said to attain total control of his newly acquired body with all mental faculties of his previous existence intact.
Sat 04/08/01 at 17:27
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I would like to live forever in a happy world. But I do not believe in reincarnation
Tue 31/07/01 at 14:28
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Reincarnation anyone? - Maybe we do live forever.
Mon 30/07/01 at 21:29
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I want to life long enough to see England win the World Cup. (Watching a video of the 1966 World Cup Final doesn't count).

Failing that, Cameroon. (Just for a laugh).
Wed 25/07/01 at 20:32
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I don't want to live forever. For all the people like friends and family would die in what would seem like a fraction of your own life. Face it, in the scenerio who would even bother creating a close reletionship with someone, knowing that you'll only see them grow old and die then lose them? I couldn't deal with that for a start.
I want to live as long as life lets me, but I don't want to look back on my life years from now and think i've wasted it.
Wed 25/07/01 at 09:07
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I want to live as long as my wife does, and I don't want to outlive my children.

I wouldn't want to live to be 200 if I spent the last 120 years in bed, unable to do anything - but if I could have a decent standard of living, and all of the people I love most, healthy and with me, then yes, I'd want to live forever.
Wed 25/07/01 at 08:59
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What can I say, it's a kind of magic
Wed 25/07/01 at 00:18
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That's beautiful man... sniff.

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