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Tue 10/07/01 at 19:01
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The Uk games software market is set to reach a high of 1.56 billion pounds in 2001. The PS2 and the GBA seem to be helping the figure rise by quiye a bit. It is predicted that by 2002 the European market will overtake the US to become the most valuable sales area for games software.

Between 1996 and 200 the UK market grew by 111%. In 200 the gloabal market was worth nearly $18 billion, Us contributed around $6.3 billion, Europe $5.8 billion and Japan with $3.4 billion.
Ok so if this is the case then why are we treated so poorly compared with the Japanese market and the Us market, surley we deserve more respect? We spend so much each year on games, consoles and peripherals yet we are last to get the games, we get slower versions of games, and some don't even make it out over here. Maybe its time for a change. Maybe we should get things first.
Everyone on here likes games (if you don't then why are you here) and probably feels quite angry when they see games getting released abroad months before they are released here. A reason why some turn to piracy( thats only one reason piracy is so high but there are loads more) and get import copies. I know I've been there, done it, but didn't have time to buy the T-Shirt.
Its about time that the main developers realised how important the market is over here and did something to show that we aren't going unrecognised.
Wed 11/07/01 at 17:51
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Ashley wrote:
> All though it is a poor excuse the language card can be played here.
> The Us market is just english language where as the european market
> ismulti luingual and pal. But games producers should take this into
> account and be better prepared for it though.

Already covered... see below :)
Wed 11/07/01 at 16:48
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All though it is a poor excuse the language card can be played here. The Us market is just english language where as the european market ismulti luingual and pal. But games producers should take this into account and be better prepared for it though.
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:57
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"---SOULJACKER---"
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Your Honour wrote:
> SonicRav wrote:
the
> reason I say this is because the screen
> is completely filled, with
> no black borders... does anyone
> know why this is?

Some games do have small black borders at the
> top and bottom.

Except Ferrari F355, which has huuuuuuuge borders
> at the top and bottom.

What I was trying to say (unsuccessfully) was that if not properly converted then there WILL be big borders. This can be fixed... but requires a bit more time and money.. so is often ignored.

Sonic
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:35
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Meka_Dragon wrote:
> It's not just the language barrier in Europe though, but promoting
> the games to those crazy foreigners too!

It does take way too
> long for games to come out here, and we do seem to be something of
> an afterthought, but I can see some potential stumbling blocks.

However... since most developers and distributors have have European officies...

who do their own advertising, is shouldn make a difference wether when a games advertising begins...

And for s 5.8 billion dollar industry, that does seem to be taken for granted
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:28
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SonicRav wrote:
the
> reason I say this is because the screen is completely filled, with
> no black borders... does anyone know why this is?

Some games do have small black borders at the top and bottom.

Except Ferrari F355, which has huuuuuuuge borders at the top and bottom.
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:25
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"---SOULJACKER---"
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Your Honour wrote:
> Sonic, so when i chose the 60Hz option, i am in fact running the
> NTSC version of the game?

I *think* you are playing a modified version of the NTSC games...

the reason I say this is because the screen is completely filled, with no black borders... does anyone know why this is?

And Bonus... yes, I know that the PS2 supports 60Hz output... but if it is as hard to find this option as it is to do Anti aliasing, we could be waiting a loonnnnnngggggggg time!


Sonic
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:21
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Sonic, the PS2 and the PS can support NTSC output, but for some reason the developers are not using it. Ever seen a copied PS2 game which comes up in black and white and scrolls round the screen when used without a SCART cable? This is because RF doesn't support NTSC signals, but when used with a SCART cable, it works fine!! Why because it is an import copy and is running in NTSC mode.
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:20
"High polygon count"
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SonicRav wrote:
> for this reason Sega uses the 60Hz option on its games to allow the usert to
> play games at their proper speed. Unfortunately no other (recent)
> console has bothered with this idea...


Except PS2 - though not to the same extent at the moment.

Developers need a collective kick up the jacksie.
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:18
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Sonic, so when i chose the 60Hz option, i am in fact running the NTSC version of the game?
Wed 11/07/01 at 14:17
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One, it helps for their region locking system, because believe it or not, some games do actually come out here first.

The reson we are an after thought is quite simple. The major consoles for years have all been Japanese, and Japanese punters wouldn't like their homegrown talent to sell stuff in the west before releasing it at home, so they wouldn't buy it. Then their stuff goes to America, as that is where the money is made. Remeber that despite the amounts you are seeing there, it is profits which fuel the business, and taxes and production costs in europe are much higher than they are in places like America. There is also less of a gap between the value of the Dolar and the Yen compared to the pound and the Yen, again effecting the amount of profit being made. Sony were also hoping to open factories in Taiwan to produce European PS2s more cheaply, but were put under pressure from western governments fearing that Taiwan would use the technology for military purposes, so all in all, it makes sense to me.

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