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At this presant moment in time the watershed time for television programs containing content not watchable by children is 9.00 o clock pm. Should this be made earlier? In my opinion its fine as it is, but there are those who think it should be made earlier. I have children myself and feel that your children only watch what you let them watch. They say the content of programs shown after nine o clock is not suitable for children, don't get me wrong I don't disagree with this, but if we are being realistic if you don't want your child to watch something then you can turn it over. This could open up a hole can of worms. For instance the content of some cartoons is violent but they are classed as suitable, the content of the news is violent,sometimes disturbing but these are all shown before the watershed. As a parent myself I would just find it interesting to see what other peoples views on this subject are.
Mewtwo wrote:
then as your daughter progresses in life and
> in age you can explain in more detail about society, Freedom of
> Speech, Human Rights and the most of cause the most important thing
> your daughter must know is of freedom and right of expression.
As long as you dont live in the UK, where we do not actually have any freedom of speech and right of expression.
The USA does, The Constitution, but we in the UK do not.
This is why the Criminal Justice Act was passed, why activists broke into Memworth Hill Listening station today, why police have powers to bug, record and monitor emails, church confessionals, mobile phones, text messages and any information broadcast over a public medium.
It's a very commonly misundertood fallacy that we have any rights whatsoever.
We are recently covered (in part) by The European Charter of Human and Civil Rights, but the UK is constantly withdrawing from each section as it sees fit to do so.
The Police can videotape you at a demonstration, but it's illegal for you to videotape them.
However, you can appeal through the European High Commission, but fat lot of luck that will do you.
Slobodan Milosovich has discovered that if you refuse to recognise a European Court as legitimate, it is nigh on impossible to uphold any conviction made there.
Freedome of Speech and Right to Expression is nice in idea, but we have no more rights, legally, than those in Chile or El Salvador - it's just not as noticable here yet.
But don;t worry about it, stay indoors and watch Big Brother, it couldn't possibly happen here.
then as your daughter progresses in life and
> in age you can explain in more detail about society, Freedom of
> Speech, Human Rights and the most of cause the most important thing
> your daughter must know is of freedom and right of expression.
As long as you dont live in the UK, where we do not actually have any freedom of speech and right of expression.
The USA does, The Constitution, but we in the UK do not.
This is why the Criminal Justice Act was passed, why activists broke into Memworth Hill Listening station today, why police have powers to bug, record and monitor emails, church confessionals, mobile phones, text messages and any information broadcast over a public medium.
It's a very commonly misundertood fallacy that we have any rights whatsoever.
We are recently covered (in part) by The European Charter of Human and Civil Rights, but the UK is constantly withdrawing from each section as it sees fit to do so.
The Police can videotape you at a demonstration, but it's illegal for you to videotape them.
However, you can appeal through the European High Commission, but fat lot of luck that will do you.
Slobodan Milosovich has discovered that if you refuse to recognise a European Court as legitimate, it is nigh on impossible to uphold any conviction made there.
Freedome of Speech and Right to Expression is nice in idea, but we have no more rights, legally, than those in Chile or El Salvador - it's just not as noticable here yet.
But don;t worry about it, stay indoors and watch Big Brother, it couldn't possibly happen here.
Meka_Dragon wrote:
> The watershed must stay.
what frustrates me is the things that
> are beginning to slip through it. Many of your lesser swear words
> are now regularly spoke before 9, and I don't want my daughters
> first words to be these!
Of course I have the option to switch
> off, and it's one I choose to do regularly!
What you class as "lesser swear words" will have been aproved by some panel or body of control who would have accepted these words to be acceptable in our modern society.
If you still have worries you have three choices,
1. Complain to the relative broadcasting authority expressing your concerns.
2. Act as you do and censor what your child watches, although this could become a human rights issue, freedom of speech etc and so rather than you being a cautious responsible parent. For example, If you shield your child from obscene or extreme or disturbing acts of Sex, Violence or other in appropriate behaviour you are acting as a responsible parent. If however you stop your daughter watching various programs from such extremes as South Park and Red Dwarf or East Enders and Brookside to The News or Currant affairs programs then you loose you title as a reasonable parent and become a Form of dictator, controlling what YOU think is appropriate for your daughter.
3. Educate your daughter about the differences of right and wrong, about what society accepts as acceptable and what society accepts as inappropriate or wrong, then as your daughter progresses in life and in age you can explain in more detail about society, Freedom of Speech, Human Rights and the most of cause the most important thing your daughter must know is of freedom and right of expression.
> The watershed must stay.
what frustrates me is the things that
> are beginning to slip through it. Many of your lesser swear words
> are now regularly spoke before 9, and I don't want my daughters
> first words to be these!
Of course I have the option to switch
> off, and it's one I choose to do regularly!
What you class as "lesser swear words" will have been aproved by some panel or body of control who would have accepted these words to be acceptable in our modern society.
If you still have worries you have three choices,
1. Complain to the relative broadcasting authority expressing your concerns.
2. Act as you do and censor what your child watches, although this could become a human rights issue, freedom of speech etc and so rather than you being a cautious responsible parent. For example, If you shield your child from obscene or extreme or disturbing acts of Sex, Violence or other in appropriate behaviour you are acting as a responsible parent. If however you stop your daughter watching various programs from such extremes as South Park and Red Dwarf or East Enders and Brookside to The News or Currant affairs programs then you loose you title as a reasonable parent and become a Form of dictator, controlling what YOU think is appropriate for your daughter.
3. Educate your daughter about the differences of right and wrong, about what society accepts as acceptable and what society accepts as inappropriate or wrong, then as your daughter progresses in life and in age you can explain in more detail about society, Freedom of Speech, Human Rights and the most of cause the most important thing your daughter must know is of freedom and right of expression.
The watershed must stay.
what frustrates me is the things that are beginning to slip through it. Many of your lesser swear words are now regularly spoke before 9, and I don't want my daughters first words to be these!
Of course I have the option to switch off, and it's one I choose to do regularly!
what frustrates me is the things that are beginning to slip through it. Many of your lesser swear words are now regularly spoke before 9, and I don't want my daughters first words to be these!
Of course I have the option to switch off, and it's one I choose to do regularly!
Watersheds don't get me started on them, I absolutely HATE them, DESPISE them. It is because of them I have to watch reruns of Star Wars, Looks whos Talking and Home Alone on the sky movies channels during the day. You may not mind this but when you have experienced otherwises like myself you hate them.
When I went to America I was watching eighteen certificate films in Britain at 3. That is 3 pm! And yes the films were rated the 18 equivilant in the USA. This is because no watershed exists in America. Like in the cinemas of America where anyone no matter what age they are can see whatever film they like (some with parents supervision or parents okaying) American television also gives everyone the choice of what they watch. Of course parents can encrypt their televisions to stop children from watching certain stuff by the use of pin numbers but you are able to watch it!
If Sky has pin numbers available why can't it follow the same concept. I being 15 don't want to stay up till 8pm to watch a 15 certificate movie when I can easily watch it 2pm the same day. My parents don't mind me or my sister watching 15s (shes 13) yet we aren't allowed to watch them during the day because of a watershed that only applies to a certain number of people in our country (children must make up only 1/10 of the countries population). If we abolished watersheds and made sure we had pins for films members of a household weren't allowed to watch only then would television reach its full potential and be a joy to watch. Until then try getting through a day off school through illness watching the likes of Fern Gully the Last Rainforest (U), Nickelodeon (U) and Richard and Judy.. a nightmare in it's own right!
When I went to America I was watching eighteen certificate films in Britain at 3. That is 3 pm! And yes the films were rated the 18 equivilant in the USA. This is because no watershed exists in America. Like in the cinemas of America where anyone no matter what age they are can see whatever film they like (some with parents supervision or parents okaying) American television also gives everyone the choice of what they watch. Of course parents can encrypt their televisions to stop children from watching certain stuff by the use of pin numbers but you are able to watch it!
If Sky has pin numbers available why can't it follow the same concept. I being 15 don't want to stay up till 8pm to watch a 15 certificate movie when I can easily watch it 2pm the same day. My parents don't mind me or my sister watching 15s (shes 13) yet we aren't allowed to watch them during the day because of a watershed that only applies to a certain number of people in our country (children must make up only 1/10 of the countries population). If we abolished watersheds and made sure we had pins for films members of a household weren't allowed to watch only then would television reach its full potential and be a joy to watch. Until then try getting through a day off school through illness watching the likes of Fern Gully the Last Rainforest (U), Nickelodeon (U) and Richard and Judy.. a nightmare in it's own right!
It is a very difficult subject but I think that Mewtwo is probably about got it. The solution I mean.
I believe on the free to air Chanals 1-4 the watershed should stay at 9PM BUT after the watershed say between 9PM and 5am Broadcasters should be able to show what they want and if they wish uncensored. As for satalite chanals epsecialy the Encrypted ones, broadcasters should be able to show what they want when they want. It is a Parent or Gaudians responabilty to censor or not their childrens viewing. Obviously if theese measuers were ever to adopted, I wouldn't expect the BBC to show unssesored Sex or Violence at 9:01pm or Sky one showing sex at lunch time but this is becuse of what the broadcasters would choose to show their audiences.
I think that it should not be altered. If anything it should be made later because most younger people are staying up later than they would say 6 years ago.
I have a gripe with sky digital because most of the programs on that don't even use the 9 o'clock watershed. Premier and the other movie channels have an eight o'clock watershed, so when I have kids, I dont want to think that they can watch extremely violent things that are put on so early in the evening. Not that I would want them to watch it at all.
I have a gripe with sky digital because most of the programs on that don't even use the 9 o'clock watershed. Premier and the other movie channels have an eight o'clock watershed, so when I have kids, I dont want to think that they can watch extremely violent things that are put on so early in the evening. Not that I would want them to watch it at all.
At this presant moment in time the watershed time for television programs containing content not watchable by children is 9.00 o clock pm. Should this be made earlier? In my opinion its fine as it is, but there are those who think it should be made earlier. I have children myself and feel that your children only watch what you let them watch. They say the content of programs shown after nine o clock is not suitable for children, don't get me wrong I don't disagree with this, but if we are being realistic if you don't want your child to watch something then you can turn it over. This could open up a hole can of worms. For instance the content of some cartoons is violent but they are classed as suitable, the content of the news is violent,sometimes disturbing but these are all shown before the watershed. As a parent myself I would just find it interesting to see what other peoples views on this subject are.